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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:56 am 
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JWatt (formerly PMS) wrote:
The only thing that would explain your stance is that Brewer is a defensive liability and needs to be paired with a defenseman that is strong enough defensively to bail him out and keep his goals allowed stats down.



This is kind of what I was saying. When Brewer is paired with a good defensive defenseman who can make up for Brewers defensive lapses, this makes Brewer better. Does it have to do with it being someone Brewer is comfortable with? Maybe but I think it utimately comes down to someone who can make up for his mistakes.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:57 am 
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I thought this thread was supposed to be about Jackman?


Another reason why this thread sucks..

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:28 pm 
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Wasn't a fellow named Todd Reardon on a top d pairing on a pretty damn good team a few years ago?

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Shouldn't a #1 defenseman make his partner better not his partner make him better?

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Shouldn't a #1 defenseman make his partner better not his partner make him better?


Only on the elite 22 teams of the league.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:51 am 
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Shouldn't a #1 defenseman make his partner better not his partner make him better?


Interesting assertion.

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Battra wrote:
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Shouldn't a #1 defenseman make his partner better not his partner make him better?


Interesting assertion.




So.. What you are saying is Brewer sucks and is a #3 defenseman at best.. Thanks for clearing that up.

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section319 wrote:
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crazy blues fan wrote:
Shouldn't a #1 defenseman make his partner better not his partner make him better?


Interesting assertion.




So.. What you are saying is Brewer sucks and is a #3 defenseman at best.. Thanks for clearing that up.


Hmm...No...You see....were I to say that, I'd have typed it.

If Brewer sucked, by definition, he couldn't be a 2nd pairing NHL defensemen I don't think.

Do you?

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Battra wrote:
section319 wrote:
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crazy blues fan wrote:
Shouldn't a #1 defenseman make his partner better not his partner make him better?


Interesting assertion.




So.. What you are saying is Brewer sucks and is a #3 defenseman at best.. Thanks for clearing that up.


Hmm...No...You see....were I to say that, I'd have typed it.

If Brewer sucked, by definition, he couldn't be a 2nd pairing NHL defensemen I don't think.

Do you?



Well he sucks and he is a 1st pairing NHL defenseman, so yeah, I would say it is possible.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:02 pm 
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section319 wrote:
Battra wrote:
section319 wrote:
Battra wrote:
crazy blues fan wrote:
Shouldn't a #1 defenseman make his partner better not his partner make him better?


Interesting assertion.




So.. What you are saying is Brewer sucks and is a #3 defenseman at best.. Thanks for clearing that up.


Hmm...No...You see....were I to say that, I'd have typed it.

If Brewer sucked, by definition, he couldn't be a 2nd pairing NHL defensemen I don't think.

Do you?



Well he sucks and he is a 1st pairing NHL defenseman, so yeah, I would say it is possible.


Interesting.

So would you say that the players in say, the AHL are horrific?

What about Ian Cole?

If Brewer sucks and is in the NHL, Cole isn't even good enough to suck in the NHL yet, what does that make him?

I'd say your premise is flawed.

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Battra wrote:
section319 wrote:
Battra wrote:
section319 wrote:
Battra wrote:
crazy blues fan wrote:
Shouldn't a #1 defenseman make his partner better not his partner make him better?


Interesting assertion.




So.. What you are saying is Brewer sucks and is a #3 defenseman at best.. Thanks for clearing that up.


Hmm...No...You see....were I to say that, I'd have typed it.

If Brewer sucked, by definition, he couldn't be a 2nd pairing NHL defensemen I don't think.

Do you?



Well he sucks and he is a 1st pairing NHL defenseman, so yeah, I would say it is possible.


Interesting.

So would you say that the players in say, the AHL are horrific?

What about Ian Cole?

If Brewer sucks and is in the NHL, Cole isn't even good enough to suck in the NHL yet, what does that make him?

I'd say your premise is flawed.


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Battra wrote:
section319 wrote:
Battra wrote:
section319 wrote:
Battra wrote:
crazy blues fan wrote:
Shouldn't a #1 defenseman make his partner better not his partner make him better?


Interesting assertion.




So.. What you are saying is Brewer sucks and is a #3 defenseman at best.. Thanks for clearing that up.


Hmm...No...You see....were I to say that, I'd have typed it.

If Brewer sucked, by definition, he couldn't be a 2nd pairing NHL defensemen I don't think.

Do you?



Well he sucks and he is a 1st pairing NHL defenseman, so yeah, I would say it is possible.


Interesting.

So would you say that the players in say, the AHL are horrific?

What about Ian Cole?

If Brewer sucks and is in the NHL, Cole isn't even good enough to suck in the NHL yet, what does that make him?

I'd say your premise is flawed.



You are probably pretty popular over at the Asylum huh?

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Wasn't a fellow named Todd Reardon on a top d pairing on a pretty damn good team a few years ago?


Reirden- yea. Hit like a train IIRC. #32 or somethin?

I know he played for the Mighty Ducks for a while too.


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and he never played for the Mighty Ducks. :?

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section319 wrote:
You are probably pretty popular over at the Asylum huh?



:lol: :lol: :lol:

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WaukeeBlues wrote:
Leedog wrote:
Wasn't a fellow named Todd Reardon on a top d pairing on a pretty damn good team a few years ago?


Reirden- yea. Hit like a train IIRC. #32 or somethin?

I know he played for the Mighty Ducks for a while too.


edit: I stand corrected, #28.

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and he never played for the Mighty Ducks. :?


Point is if he can be a top pair D, ANYONE can if they are paired with the right guy. MacInnis was on the second pairing. Does this mean Reardon was better than 2?

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Bump for interesting thread with interesting arguments.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:13 am 
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Bump for interesting thread with interesting arguments.


Holy crap, dude.

You have an issue.


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