Yes. I can see the positivity just dripping off of you in waves ViPeRx007. Let me show you some examples of your positivity, as you never have a bad thing to say about the Blues or any member of their team.
This thing blew.
Nothing but lowlights.
Apparently it was when we traded Ben Bishop to the (edited to appease glen: Senators who ended up trading him to the) Lightning so he could repeatedly shut us down like a buggy PC.
Glass Joe is back! I can't wait for him to get injured in his first shift!
You can go to hell, Mike Smith.
Tough to complain with a 7-1-2 record but that wasn't a very pretty game by the Blues. Whatever I guess.
Weak ass effort against a weak team. 4 posts in 1 period though is bad luck....but still. It's the Jets. There were stretches of flat out uninspired play and that's really not cool in only the 7th game of the season. Nobody better even start on the "2nd game in as many nights" nonsense either. It's the 7th game of the season, they're professional athletes, they should be able to handle it. I guess they have a week to "rest up" now.
You are right about one thing though ViPeRx007. It is the fans. But this thread is not proof of the problem. It is more like this post by you....
This pains me to no end, but.... Eastern Conference Champion: Pittsburgh Western Conference Champion: LA Stanley Cup Winner: LA President's Trophy Winner: NY Rangers
See the fans don't even expect us to win. We have a damn good team. Some experts were picking the Blues to win the West, and a great fan like you picks the Kings. Not that you mind as you focus on the positive. "We're going to lose but that's ok, we will play every game. Yay Team, way to participate."
I am apparently one of these awful fans that disappoint you because I started this thread. But I will watch 75+ regular season games. I will travel to see at least 5 games live, and I live nowhere near St. Louis. If I was in St. Louis, I'd have season tickets. When I lived there, I was in grad school, but I scrimped to get the cash to see as many games as I could.
St. Louis supports its teams. It is a great sports town. But they have gone far too long without a Cup. We finally have an owner who is willing to spend money, even though I disagree with some of how they spent it. So yea, I am going to be damn critical of the players who don't seem to be trying as hard as they can to finally give the fans a cup.
In my lifetime, the Blues have only made the conference finals twice and never the cup finals, much less hoisted it. So for me, I am going to be disappointed with anything other than a Cup. I am sick of focusing on the positive, when that big negative is still out there. The Blues have never won a cup.
And while they only have 6 losses (here's me, not being an optimist but a realist and calling a loss a loss no matter when it occurs), they are being absolutely carried by a guy who has never done anything near what he is doing. When other teams are carried by top players, its because they expect it and build their team around it. They often split their top players to the top 2 lines to avoid being shut down. I can't think of a cup winner with only one decent line ('hawks split Kane and Toews up most of the time). If someone else on the Blues does not pick up the pace, the Blues will be in real trouble come playoff time when teams have lots of time and incentive to gameplan how to stop Steen or when he cools off.
I am done with this forum. There are some cool people, but mostly idiots like you who would rather say screw this team or that guy than have an intelligent discussion about the sport and team we all claim to love. I have seen more posts insulting other team's players (Cindy Crosby and Sedin sisters: wow you called them girls, so clever) than saying anything meaningful. Viper, could have just made the comment about how we only have 3 losses (which is true and a valid point) and backed up his argument with more points. That might have led to an interesting discussion. Instead he had to take a shot at me.
Oakandblue, you made a valid point about Berglund's linemates, although I think Tarasenko has had some good set-up attempts. I would have liked to hear your thoughts on line combos that could get Berglund active again. But alas, it is not worth digging through the muck to find the one or two intelligent thoughts a week on here. There are other forums where people don't get insulted if you say something good about another team or negative about yours. dmiles, if you are reading this, you are cool in my book. To the vast majority of the rest of you, enjoy your little jokes and inane banter.
I think everyone here feels the same as you, in one way or another. There is alot of Apathy in the fanbase, which is understandable when your ownership situation changes every 5-10 years. You build up, tear down, sell. Build up, tear down, sell. There's been no long-running ownership so that the team grows over time, which has helped most not only win Cups, but also build dynasties (Yeah, you look at say, Detroit. Those Cups and that dynasty was 55 years in the making, same ownership). The fans are waiting for the foot to drop and the truth, the real truth, is simple: This team ain't winning a Cup this year.
They play sloppy. They play inconsistant. They have tools that are misused, ignored or assigned poorly which has resulted in the play we're seeing, a red-hot scoring Polak, an agitator Stewart, etc. Steen has turned the corner and is doing what we expected Schwartz to do, and Steen....man, that's been FIVE years in the making. People have ignored Steen forever and the truth is, the guy has always had the goods, but needed time and a line that he can connect and make dynamite with. Players like Bergy benefit from that and as for Bergy - Roy and Osh. Bergy is not a true Center, I don't care what anyone says. At wing, I think he's a force to be reckoned with.
Halak gets alot of credit for playing very average, almost backup stats at goal. Two games ago he was sitting at .897 on a team with iirc a 12-2 record. .897 with the D we have doesn't say alot about your goalie. He's .907 now, which may good enough for all of you, but with this group, it's not going to win us a Cup.
And the Ken Hitchcock we need isn't this goombah we got, it's the Dallas Stars Hitchcock we need, but Ken wants to continue to play a parody of instead of the mustached real deal. He doesn't press hard enough, he doesn't demand the best, he skates along like Berglund or Stewart do. No bag skate. No benching. Nothing.
The fans pay how much for seats, give the team how much of their time and are taking for empty promises and players put on a pedestal who can't win against a team like the Jets.
Maybe they should move and start over.
See, the mistake in all of this is demanding the fans believe in something even they see as a lie. When the greatest moment in Blues History is a series we LOST (The Monday Night Miracle), it's really hard to expect the fanbase to do much more, after 40+ years, than to show Apathy, especially when there's a laundry list of players wearing the note in the HoF or go on to teams and win the Cup there (Prongs, for instance).
Frankly, the majority of Blues fans I have met in person have the exact same demeanor about the team as Viper and many others have expressed and it's a demanor that IS EARNED, not given, because of the team's history and the organization and its owners don't care enough to win, because at the end of the day it's a business to them, not a team. And there's always next year.
But I will say this:
I'm not from St. Louis and I've never had the privilidge to be in the Barn, never had the prilidge to watch Mike Liut or The Wick play and catch games when I can in person at the Shark Tank, and I don't give a damn if they ever win a Cup, because they're my team. Those of you in the STL consider yourselves fortunate because my Seals moved a long time ago and the Sharks can go to Hell. The fact the Blues exist and they play is more than enough for me and if through some twist of fate they end up being moved or dissolved, I'll keep wearing the Note because it'll always remind me of times in my life when things didn't go the way I wanted them to or went badly but at the end of it, you keep going and you keep moving along - just like the Blues. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose but at the end of it, you're still moving along. You're not giving up and everytime they lace up their skates, everytime they put on the sweaters, they're saying I'm not giving up and moving forward, and that's the kind of thing I wouldn't trade a Cup for. Ever.
Long Live The Note.