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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:16 am 
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The St. Louis Blues will enter the post-Kevin Shattenkirk era when they host the Edmonton Oilers on Tuesday night.

Shattenkirk was traded to Washington late Monday night. The Blues received a first-round pick in 2017 and a conditional second-round pick along with forwards Zach Sanford and Brad Malone for the offensively gifted defenseman and goalie Pheonix Copley.

Shattenkirk, 28, had 258 points in 424 games in St. Louis and ranks No. 4 among all NHL defensemen this season with 42 points in 60 games. It's speculated that he can command a seven-year, $49 million contract on the open market, which made it impossible for the Blues to re-sign him under their salary cap.

Last week, multiple sources reported that this past offseason, the Blues had agreements to trade Shattenkirk to the Oilers or to an undisclosed Eastern Division team, but Shattenkirk vetoed the deals by refusing to sign a contract extension with either team.

The mystery team was widely believed to be Tampa Bay, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Both extensions were reportedly in the seven-year, $42 million range.

Sanford, 22, is 6-foot-4, 203 pounds and was a second-round pick in 2013. He has two goals and one assist in 26 games this season. The 27-year-old Malone has dressed in 52 games for the Capitals' American Hockey League (AHL) affiliate, the Hershey Bears, this season, tallying 20 points (seven goals, 13 assists).

The Blues have lost their last three games, after starting 7-1 under new coach Mike Yeo.

Their last loss, in Chicago on Sunday, came off their mandatory bye. Teams coming off the bye are now 6-15-4.

"We were right there," said Blues goalie Jake Allen, who made 38 saves in the 4-2 loss to the Blackhawks. "We fought our way back in the game and it's a tough one to swallow again. We've got to find ways to get even a point out of these games right now. They're so crucial."

The Blues are fourth in the Central Division with 67 points through 61 games. St. Louis is just three points ahead of Los Angeles for the final playoff spot.

The Blues could also be without forward Ryan Reaves, who hurt his foot blocking a shot on Sunday. Reaves did not participate during Monday's practice.

"'Reavo' was just getting his foot looked at," Yeo told the Post-Dispatch. "He blocked a shot last night. I haven't got word yet on how he's going to be. He's getting an X-ray we'll find out shortly on how he is."

The Oilers enter the contest losers of their last two games, but are still tied with Anaheim for second in the Pacific Division with 74 points. Both teams have played 63 games, but the Ducks are idle until March 3.

In Sunday's 5-4 loss at Nashville, the Oilers gave up three power-play goals and lost 43 of 66 faceoffs. Edmonton is the worst faceoff team in the league.

"When you're in the 30th place in the league in the faceoff circle and there are 60 to 70 of them a night, you're at a disadvantage," Oilers coach Todd McLellan said. "We beat that to death."

Goalie Cam Talbot is expected to start his 57th game, a career high for a season. He has a 31-18 record with a 2.40 goals against average, including a 2-0 mark with a 1.47 GAA against St. Louis this season.
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Blues • The Blues are 0-1-1 against the Oilers, losing in overtime at Scottrade Center on Dec. 19. The Blues haven’t gone winless against Edmonton since the 2008-09 season. … Magnus Paajarvi has three goals in eight games since being called up from Chicago on Feb. 5. … Alex Pietrangelo’s goal at Chicago was his ninth of the season and gave him 30 points, the sixth straight full season he’s hit that marker.

Oilers • This is the last stop for Edmonton on a six-city, 11-day road trip on which they’re 2-3. They’re coming off a 5-4 loss to Nashville on Sunday and are tied for second in the Pacific Division with Anaheim. … Connor McDavid leads the NHL in scoring with 71 points (21 goals, 50 assists) and Leon Draisaitl leads the team in goals with 23. … Edmonton is 18-12-5 on the road for 41 points, the second-most in the league.

Injuries • Blues — F Robby Fabbri (knee), out; Ryan Reaves (foot), questionable. Oilers — D Andrew Ference (hip) and F Tyler Pitlick (leg), out; F Benoit Pouliot (undisclosed), day to day.


This day in history:
1978 Red Berenson, playing in his 500th game for the Blues, scored the final hat trick of his career in 7-1 win over North Stars
1981 Jorgen Petterson hat trick broke the Blues rookie record for goals and Wayne Babych broke the Blues record for goals in a season in Blues 7-4 win over Capitals
1993 Teemu Selanne becomes the third rookie in NHL history to score 50 goals in a season
2002 Reed Low set Blues single game and period record PIMs (57) vs Calgary Flames

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:57 pm 
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Game 1 post-Shatty. Let's see what happens.

Two points, please. :letsgoblues:

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How will the Shattenkirk area be remembered?

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And we're back to Hitchcock-era lines....

It should be noted when Ryan White (4th line guy with AZ) joined the Wild, Boudreau didn't play him 4th line minutes. He put him on the ice with his top line due to other guys being out, instead of shuffling up the 4th line guys and playing the new guy only 5 minutes. WTF not see what Barbashev could do with Tarasenko, instead of the incessant failure that is the STL line??? But Yeo's doing fine, right??

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Alexander Steen - Paul Stastny - Magnus Paajarvi
Jaden Schwartz - Jori Lehtera - Vladimir Tarasenko (really????)
Dmitrij Jaskin - Patrik Berglund - David Perron
Ivan Barbashev - Kyle Brodziak - Ryan Reaves

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Jay Bouwmeester - Alex Pietrangelo
Carl Gunnarsson - Robert Bortuzzo
Joel Edmundson - Colton Parayko

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Jake Allen

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:37 pm 
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The STL line, entirely because of Lehtera, is an unmitigated disaster. However... I'd be curious to know if that line continues to exist because Tarasenko wants it to. Lehtera was brought in because of this supposed chemistry, does the star of the team not want to be centered by anyone else? Were the rumors that Ottawa was kicking the tires on Lehtera true and ultimately squashed to keep Tarasenko happy? If so, that's a major problem that needs to be addressed. He's got the skill set to score 50+ with a proper center, and loyalty to his friend is detrimental to the team. I don't think he's that type of player but who knows every minute detail of what's going on between him and coaching?

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It doesn't help that Schwartz has only registered points in 4 games since Yeo took over.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:09 pm 
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Anyone else having trouble getting the game via NHL.TV. Not even showing up as viewable online at NHL.com or through my Roku. Grrr....

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Blues score on The PP!!! Stastny tips in Pietrangelo's drive!!! Blues lead 1-0!!! Shattenkirk not needed!!!!

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Couple of super saves to keep them tied on the 5 on 3. Steen leaving to get a new stick, while already shorthanded right in front of his net was a boneheaded move. Lucky to still be tied. Not a great 1st Period. But good to see The PP score with Pietrangelo taking Shattenkirk's place.

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Yeo - 8 of 12 - 2 goals or less. Some solution.

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And just like that, we are SIX points behind Nashville for 3rd in the Division, and hanging on to the last wild card by one point over LA.

Although I really should stop worrying about it- it is looking like a 1st-round exit no matter where we finish. Finish in 2nd wild card? Eliminated by Minnesota. Finish in 1st wild card? Eliminated by San Jose. Finish in 3rd in the division? Eliminated by Chicago. I don't think there is any chance we finish any higher than that, while there is a decent chance LA overtakes us for the 2nd wild card spot and we miss the playoffs entirely.

Sorry, didn't mean to get all Debbie Downer there. :letsgoblues:

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...and there it is. LA won on Thursday night, jumping over us for the 2nd wild card and putting us (temporarily) out of playoff position. I know we have games in hand, but if you are relying on games in hand to get you into the playoffs, your chances at playoff success are pretty much moot anyway.

And this isn't the first time recently this has happened. Before Hitch was fired, we dropped to the outside, Nashville and Calgary ahead of us, then Yeo took over and we came roaring back. Things looked good- we reclaimed third place in the division and even put a little distance between us and Nashville. Now, Nashville and Calgary are riding hot streaks and we've lost 4 in a row, and we're back outside the playoff picture.

So is the Yeo honeymoon over? Is it just this team's true nature coming through again? What do you think the current odds are of making/missing the playoffs?

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The Blues odds of making the playoffs are actually pretty good when one considers the remaining schedule.

The Yeo honeymoon should have been over before he was ever hired, but.... the Armstrong loyalty hire thanks to Rick Wilson from the Dallas days, instead of staying loyal to the assistants who actually helped the team reach a conference finals.

However, winning even one round of the playoffs is extremely unlikely given Yeo's inability to get his teams to actually score goals. Currently at 2.6667 goals/gm since Yeo took over and dropping to his historic 2.49 g/gm average. And that 2.6667 is inflated by 2 games (5 G vs Toronto and 6 vs Ottawa). Without those 2 games, the Blues are only scoring 2.1 g/gm. FYI, the Blues were at 2.89/gm under Hitchcock - even this season when he was fired. This goals/gm number will go up when the Blues play AZ, COL, and CAR a combined 8 times in the remaining 20 games.

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The Blues odds of making the playoffs are actually pretty good when one considers the remaining schedule.

The Yeo honeymoon should have been over before he was ever hired, but.... the Armstrong loyalty hire thanks to Rick Wilson from the Dallas days, instead of staying loyal to the assistants who actually helped the team reach a conference finals.

However, winning even one round of the playoffs is extremely unlikely given Yeo's inability to get his teams to actually score goals. Currently at 2.6667 goals/gm since Yeo took over and dropping to his historic 2.49 g/gm average. And that 2.6667 is inflated by 2 games (5 G vs Toronto and 6 vs Ottawa). Without those 2 games, the Blues are only scoring 2.1 g/gm. FYI, the Blues were at 2.89/gm under Hitchcock - even this season when he was fired. This goals/gm number will go up when the Blues play AZ, COL, and CAR a combined 8 times in the remaining 20 games.


I'm starting to get the impression that you're not the president of the Mike Yeo fan club.

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I'm starting to get the impression that you're not the president of the Mike Yeo fan club.


You know the concept of a coach proving it at the lower level before getting an NHL head coaching gig...

Yeo had 1 year of AHL head coaching experience (Houston Aeros) before the Wild promoted him and that AHL team added significant offensive players. That Aeros team reached their Conference Finals. Here is the question: Was it Yeo's one "brilliant" year of coaching or the significant number of more offensively skilled players added to the Aeros roster.

Yeo is mentioned for his success as an assistant helping rebuild the Penguins in the 2000s. Yeo's job as an assistant was the special team's expert with Therrien, the guy who Montreal just fired for losing the team in consecutive seasons after starting on fire both seasons, as his mentor. And in spite of upgrading the talent significantly on the Wild roster in 2013 - Suter and Parise - the Wild's offense never changed. It stayed 2.49 G/Gm every season. Can you imagine the outcry from Blues nation had they added Suter and Parise to the 2013 roster and the offense didn't improve?? This is the guy Armstrong hired for the Blues future.

Where is the track record of success as a head coach so many GMs claim is required these days and why wasn't it applied when hiring Yeo??

So, yeah, I strongly dislike the Yeo hiring and Armstrong should be fired for bringing him in at all.

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Just to pile on a little more....

These are a few of the players added to the Penguins roster during the 5 years Yeo was an asst coach with them:

Crosby
Malkin
Letang
Kunitz
Jordan Staal
Goligoski

So is it coaching or player talent?

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