Exactly, glen. All context, not the limited context of just keeping Elliott and Allen together which was not a real serious option considering what Elliott was demanding. But let's ignore the context related to Elliott's individual demands, what's required in the upcoming expansion draft, Elliott's potentially pending UFA status (he damn well wasn't going to re-sign with the Blues if not handed the #1 role) and all that context and just claim the Blues should have kept them together. Riiiiggghhhhtttt...
And these are all the guys, except one, given the same context, losing a first round playoff series, Oakland would doubt - the same way he's doubting Allen can win a playoff series while discounting all of his World Jr. and Jr level play.
Goalie GAA SV% W L
Player 1 2.87 .895 4 4 Henrik Lundqvist (Age 25)
Player 2 2.27 .925 3 5 Corey Crawford (Age 27)
Player 3 2.91 .908 3 5 Jonathan Quick (Age 25)
Player 4 2.65 .910 3 5 Pekka Rinne (Age 28)
Player 5 2.96 .920 4 4 Jaroslave Halak (Age 24)
Player 6 2.70 .901 5 2 Brian Elliott (Age 26) (no decision in one start due to being pulled)
Allen 2.56 .897 3 5 (for comparison - only the 8 starts) Age 25 on the 8th start.
All but one of them, Halak, lost their first series in the playoffs as the starter. Throw in Mike Liut, too. Guess we should bring back Halak. He's proven he can reach the Conference Finals, just like Elliott did once.
So clearly, Allen can't be trusted to win a playoff series
You don't listen. Elliott was still under contract and wanted a trade IF we didn't name him the Starter. So why not just name him, let him blow out and that puts the issue to rest? Everyone seems to think he wanted a trade and he didn't. He wanted an opportunity, we said no and honored his request for the alternative.
If you drop Elliott's no-decision, it signifigantly raises his GAA.
You simply don't sign a player with south of 100 games to a big contract unless they're the guy and Allen's stats haven't proven that. Working with Brodeur (and maybe Conklin, but people don't bring that name up alot) seems to have helped his game. He's 26, I don't expect a great deal more out of him than what I've seen, but netminders are funny like that and I'll even admit that. But did Allen's output so far really merit what, 4 years at 4m? I know we're talking in hindsight, but at the time, was that absolutely necessary? Be honest about that. I know I'm being nitpicky, but that's Halak money and the Isles are having a hard time dealing with that contract. Fans here look at a player doing well as if they will always do that well or will only get better. That's how we got Lehtera's contract.
Look, we can sit here and ponder what Allen can and can not do. I am speaking from what I have SEEN of him in the playoffs so far from stats YOU posted, and it doesn't paint a good picture. Doesn't mean he won't be amazing, but with the roster we have, to win we will need to have a bulletproof defense and a netminder who can steal games in the playoffs. So far, that isn't Allen and unless you can predict the future, you can't sit here and predict what Allen can be and can't be. I'm speaking of stats, regardless if it's a big or small sample size. You're predicting.
And no, the majority of this isn't Allen's fault, in all honesty, a lot of netminders in the NHL wouldn't be able to help the Blues all the way. We would need a legitimate elite netminder and that's simply not Allen and that's not his fault. On a stacked offense, Allen would be wonderful. We don't have that and management, as it stands, is not going to go out and buy the players we need. Army is incapable and I don't believe Stillman has the background or experience to help either.
Like I've said a few times now, we should wait until after the post-season and then discuss this again because we'll have a better understanding on where Allen sits. We can sit here and give small sample sizes all we like; since February Allen's done this, this guy's done that kind of thing. What can he do in an entire season? So far he's definitely regular season material. What is he in the playoffs, when it really matters?
We'll find out in a few months and while I'm not his biggest fan, I do hope he shoots for the moon and hits it. I'd table my issues with him to see the team go all the way.