glen a richter wrote:
glen a richter wrote:
There is absolutely NOTHING right with the thought of a student and a teacher having sex. It's a twisted perversion that exists in the fantasies of young male students...
But in seriousness- I think Ruutu's point was what you make of the people that DO partake in it (I'm rolling with the assumption you weren't being completely serious with the castration suggestion. If you were; nevermind)
I'm quite serious about castration. As a HS teacher, it bothers me to read about these teachers who have sexual relations with their students. Besides the obvious things that are wrong with it, we're talking about supposed adults having sex with people (students) who in all cases doing it for personal gain: 1) to achieve star status amongst their friends and/or 2) to have some means of blackmailing the teacher into giving them a higher grade. In any event, any teacher who goes along with this sort of proposition is very sick in the head. The first rule of teaching is that you must separate yourselves from the students in terms of friendships. If you treat your relationship with the students as one of "let's be friends" they'll take advantage eight ways from Sunday. It's a professional relationship that can and should be friendly, but it can't ever be a personal relationship that becomes "friends".
Adult teachers having sex with a student, no matter who instigated it, should be treated as sex offenders who prey on minors, and that falls into my category of people who should be castrated.
Very well stated and I completely agree with you. (Although maybe not your second paragraph on castration but thats just me
The ONLY way that I said it was ethically excusable was the fact that two people, ages 18 and 24 (or whatever so long as the youngest is 18 ) as per one example on this board; THAT may be societally okay... just not in the classroom. I completely understand your point that because
of the context of it being in the classroom that its never
okay, and I can relate.
It's not even a matter of where it takes place, it could be in the classroom, a hotel or a car, any way you slice it it's just totally messed up for a teacher to be having sex with a student.
As I understand the law, I'm allowed to have a legal relationship with a student of legal age so long as they're not a student in the school I teach at. As far as I'm concerned, that qualifies as a bullshit loophole. No teacher should have sex with any student ever. It's twisted, perverted and just totally wrong in every sense.
Not to toot my own horn, but I've had a handful of female students make inappropriate comments towards me and their desire to engage in inappropriate relationships. It's only a totally psychotic teacher who would actually entertain these advances. I had a kid actually ask me if I wanted to go out with them at the beginning of this school year, point blank asked me if I'd date her right in front of my class. She was a former student who had dropped out of school because she couldn't get out of freshman status by the time she turned 18. Legally, there was nothing wrong with her proposition. She was no longer a student of mine, and she was no longer a student in a conventional HS. She went to beauty school after dropping out. She was also of legal age. Nevertheless, her proposition was totally inappropriate and entirely disgusting. I'm an adult in a position of authority and agreed, when I got certified to teach, to being a role model and in loco parentis to these children, and frankly there's nothing to gain from this sort of relationship other than status as a criminal and a pervert.
I may be a science teacher, but there's nothing in my job title that demands I teach reproduction as a hands-on topic. If I did, I'd fire myself.