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OS wrote:It's really sad how delusional you two are. The Blues are playing phenomenal hockey right now and your desire for the Blues to be sellers has completely clouded your vision in pretty much everything that you've said. But, thanks, I needed the laugh. :lol:
Translation: I have no comeback to your arguement. So instead I will just pretend that I am laughing. I am happy if they just make the playoffs and I can not pick a direction for this team to go. Come on new streak!
so every time the Blues attempt for the playoffs now are you going to be shouting "start the new streak!"? or do you prefer to rebuild forever...

No, I want them to rebuild forever. I want them to have a team full of 22 first overall picks and then trade them all for 38 year old power forwards.

Shut up tool, the adults are talking.

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Hollywood wrote: I want them to have a team full of 22 first overall picks.
You mean you don't?
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Do you think the Blues have any shot of making playoffs this year, in lieu of their recent run?

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No. However ... I'm going to be 90 years old soon, and even though I'll be old and tired, I still think that if I see the "dancing guy" from the Mighty Mighty Bosstones in a video, I'll remember everything I smelled in seventh grade. The dancing guy is named Ben. Although he didn't play an instrument or sing anything, the band let him dance around. He's probably 59 percent of the reason why I liked that band. Are you familiar with them? If not, download the song, "Wrong Thing, Right Then."
i have no idea wtf that means, lol.
I think Bucci used a bit of Melrose's hair gel before he wrote that response.

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OS wrote:
Hollywood wrote: I want them to have a team full of 22 first overall picks.
You mean you don't?
Assuming we didn't trade away players to acquire a former #1 overall pick...we'd have one player that was a 22 year veteran, one that was a 21 year veteran, one that was a 20 year veteran, and so on down the line....

We'd be an old, old team.
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OS wrote:
Hollywood wrote: I want them to have a team full of 22 first overall picks.
You mean you don't?
Not their own first overalls, no.

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Hollywood wrote:
OS wrote:
Hollywood wrote: I want them to have a team full of 22 first overall picks.
You mean you don't?
Not their own first overalls, no.
Oh, so you want to be the Pittsburgh Pirates. I got it now. Thanks for clearing that up.
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OS wrote:
Hollywood wrote:
OS wrote:
Hollywood wrote: I want them to have a team full of 22 first overall picks.
You mean you don't?
Not their own first overalls, no.
Oh, so you want to be the Pittsburgh Pirates. I got it now. Thanks for clearing that up.

If only you were smart enough to understand.

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Hollywood wrote:
OS wrote:
Hollywood wrote: I want them to have a team full of 22 first overall picks.
You mean you don't?
Not their own first overalls, no.
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cprice12 wrote:
OS wrote:
Hollywood wrote: I want them to have a team full of 22 first overall picks.
You mean you don't?
Assuming we didn't trade away players to acquire a former #1 overall pick...we'd have one player that was a 22 year veteran, one that was a 21 year veteran, one that was a 20 year veteran, and so on down the line....

We'd be an old, old team.
Our team would be:

Forward: Wendel Clark, Joe Murphy, Pierre Turgeon, Mike Modano, Mats Sundin, Owen Nolan, Eric Lindros, Alexandre Daigle, Joe Thornton, Vincent Lecavalier, Patrick Stefan, Ilya Kovalchuk, Rich nash, Alexander Ovechkin, and Sidney Crosby.

Defense: Roman Hamrlik, Ed Jovanovski, Bryan Berard, Chris Philips, and Erik Johnson

Goalie: Rick Dipietro

We'd be a .500 team.

From off hand, I think that is about 4 of those first overall picks went on to win the stanley cup: Wendel Clark, Pierre Turgeon, Modano, and Lecavalier .
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OPTIMEGUS wrote: Our team would be:

Forward: Wendel Clark, Joe Murphy, Pierre Turgeon, Mike Modano, Mats Sundin, Owen Nolan, Eric Lindros, Alexandre Daigle, Joe Thornton, Vincent Lecavalier, Patrick Stefan, Ilya Kovalchuk, Rich nash, Alexander Ovechkin, and Sidney Crosby.

Defense: Roman Hamrlik, Ed Jovanovski, Bryan Berard, Chris Philips, and Erik Johnson

Goalie: Rick Dipietro

We'd be a .500 team.

From off hand, I think that is about 4 of those first overall picks went on to win the stanley cup: Wendel Clark, Pierre Turgeon, Modano, and Lecavalier .
1. They'd be much better than a .500 team.
2. I'd be happy to win a cup. Why wouldn't you?
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OPTIMEGUS wrote:
cprice12 wrote:
OS wrote:
Hollywood wrote: I want them to have a team full of 22 first overall picks.
You mean you don't?
Assuming we didn't trade away players to acquire a former #1 overall pick...we'd have one player that was a 22 year veteran, one that was a 21 year veteran, one that was a 20 year veteran, and so on down the line....

We'd be an old, old team.
Our team would be:

Forward: Wendel Clark, Joe Murphy, Pierre Turgeon, Mike Modano, Mats Sundin, Owen Nolan, Eric Lindros, Alexandre Daigle, Joe Thornton, Vincent Lecavalier, Patrick Stefan, Ilya Kovalchuk, Rich nash, Alexander Ovechkin, and Sidney Crosby.

Defense: Roman Hamrlik, Ed Jovanovski, Bryan Berard, Chris Philips, and Erik Johnson

Goalie: Rick Dipietro

We'd be a .500 team.

From off hand, I think that is about 4 of those first overall picks went on to win the stanley cup: Wendel Clark, Pierre Turgeon, Modano, and Lecavalier .
For starters, I hope you people realize this is not what I said, but for the sake of arguement lets go with it.

You are telling me that a team with the top two lines of

Crosby Ovechkin Nash
Thornton Lacavalier Kovalchuk

and a thrid line of

Modano Turgeon Sundin

would be .500

Ok. Sure.

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Hollywood wrote:
OPTIMEGUS wrote:
cprice12 wrote:
OS wrote:
Hollywood wrote: I want them to have a team full of 22 first overall picks.
You mean you don't?
Assuming we didn't trade away players to acquire a former #1 overall pick...we'd have one player that was a 22 year veteran, one that was a 21 year veteran, one that was a 20 year veteran, and so on down the line....

We'd be an old, old team.
Our team would be:

Forward: Wendel Clark, Joe Murphy, Pierre Turgeon, Mike Modano, Mats Sundin, Owen Nolan, Eric Lindros, Alexandre Daigle, Joe Thornton, Vincent Lecavalier, Patrick Stefan, Ilya Kovalchuk, Rich nash, Alexander Ovechkin, and Sidney Crosby.

Defense: Roman Hamrlik, Ed Jovanovski, Bryan Berard, Chris Philips, and Erik Johnson

Goalie: Rick Dipietro

We'd be a .500 team.

From off hand, I think that is about 4 of those first overall picks went on to win the stanley cup: Wendel Clark, Pierre Turgeon, Modano, and Lecavalier .
For starters, I hope you people realize this is not what I said, but for the sake of arguement lets go with it.

You are telling me that a team with the top two lines of

Crosby Ovechkin Nash
Thornton Lacavalier Kovalchuk

and a thrid line of

Modano Turgeon Sundin

would be .500

Ok. Sure.
Yeah, that team would be better than .500.
That would be the best offensive team in the history of the league.
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Hollywood wrote:
OPTIMEGUS wrote:
cprice12 wrote:
OS wrote:
Hollywood wrote: I want them to have a team full of 22 first overall picks.
You mean you don't?
Assuming we didn't trade away players to acquire a former #1 overall pick...we'd have one player that was a 22 year veteran, one that was a 21 year veteran, one that was a 20 year veteran, and so on down the line....

We'd be an old, old team.
Our team would be:

Forward: Wendel Clark, Joe Murphy, Pierre Turgeon, Mike Modano, Mats Sundin, Owen Nolan, Eric Lindros, Alexandre Daigle, Joe Thornton, Vincent Lecavalier, Patrick Stefan, Ilya Kovalchuk, Rich nash, Alexander Ovechkin, and Sidney Crosby.

Defense: Roman Hamrlik, Ed Jovanovski, Bryan Berard, Chris Philips, and Erik Johnson

Goalie: Rick Dipietro

We'd be a .500 team.

From off hand, I think that is about 4 of those first overall picks went on to win the stanley cup: Wendel Clark, Pierre Turgeon, Modano, and Lecavalier .
For starters, I hope you people realize this is not what I said, but for the sake of arguement lets go with it.

You are telling me that a team with the top two lines of

Crosby Ovechkin Nash
Thornton Lacavalier Kovalchuk

and a thrid line of

Modano Turgeon Sundin

would be .500

Ok. Sure.
WHo's going to keep the other team off the scoreboard?

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cprice12 wrote:
Hollywood wrote:
Crosby Ovechkin Nash
Thornton Lacavalier Kovalchuk

and a thrid line of

Modano Turgeon Sundin
Yeah, that team would be better than .500.
That would be the best offensive team in the history of the league.
Best overall colleciton of offensive talent, maybe.

The game is so different, I don't know that they would score goals quite as many goals as the mid 80s Oilers, but they'd be damn entertaining to watch.

They would be average at best on Defense.
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cprice12 wrote: Yeah, that team would be better than .500.
That would be the best offensive team in the history of the league.
Precisely. Would you say that just having, lets say 3 of them on the team would be a pretty damn good team? Maybe a first line of Crosby, Ovechkin, and Thornton?

I'd like to have maybe 2 or 3 of them on the Blues in 2 or 3 years.

Now I realize that there are no Crosbys or Ovechkins in this years draft, but wouldn't you like to have a Thornton type player for 7 years than a Guerin for 3?

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BF44 wrote:WHo's going to keep the other team off the scoreboard?
Winning 10-7 is still a win.

That being said, there's enough talent there to completely dominate time of possession and limit opponent scoring chances without having an amazing defense.
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Hollywood wrote:Now I realize that there are no Crosbys or Ovechkins in this years draft, but wouldn't you like to have a Thornton type player for 7 years than a Guerin for 3?
Thornton was pretty highly regarded when he was drafted. Maybe not Crosby, but pretty darned close to the Ovechkin/Kovalchuk level.

That being said, we're not talking about Thornton for 7 years vs. Guerin for 3 years.

We're talking about a player like Nash for 7 years vs. Guerin for 2 months.

Honestly, there is simply no logic that can say that Guerin for 2 months is better than Nash for 7 years.
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BringBackZezel wrote:
Hollywood wrote:Now I realize that there are no Crosbys or Ovechkins in this years draft, but wouldn't you like to have a Thornton type player for 7 years than a Guerin for 3?
Thornton was pretty highly regarded when he was drafted. Maybe not Crosby, but pretty darned close to the Ovechkin/Kovalchuk level.

That being said, we're not talking about Thornton for 7 years vs. Guerin for 3 years.

We're talking about a player like Nash for 7 years vs. Guerin for 2 months.

Honestly, there is simply no logic that can say that Guerin for 2 months is better than Nash for 7 years.
Guerin for 2 months???? Most people on here are talking about RE-SIGNING him.

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BringBackZezel wrote:
Hollywood wrote:Now I realize that there are no Crosbys or Ovechkins in this years draft, but wouldn't you like to have a Thornton type player for 7 years than a Guerin for 3?
Thornton was pretty highly regarded when he was drafted. Maybe not Crosby, but pretty darned close to the Ovechkin/Kovalchuk level.

That being said, we're not talking about Thornton for 7 years vs. Guerin for 3 years.

We're talking about a player like Nash for 7 years vs. Guerin for 2 months.

Honestly, there is simply no logic that can say that Guerin for 2 months is better than Nash for 7 years.
The chances of the Blues getting a Rick Nash with the pick they trade Guerin for are about the same as the chances of the Blues winning a Cup this season.
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OS wrote:
BringBackZezel wrote:
Hollywood wrote:Now I realize that there are no Crosbys or Ovechkins in this years draft, but wouldn't you like to have a Thornton type player for 7 years than a Guerin for 3?
Thornton was pretty highly regarded when he was drafted. Maybe not Crosby, but pretty darned close to the Ovechkin/Kovalchuk level.

That being said, we're not talking about Thornton for 7 years vs. Guerin for 3 years.

We're talking about a player like Nash for 7 years vs. Guerin for 2 months.

Honestly, there is simply no logic that can say that Guerin for 2 months is better than Nash for 7 years.
The chances of the Blues getting a Rick Nash with the pick they trade Guerin for are about the same as the chances of the Blues winning a Cup this season.
If you fail in your run for the cup this season, you have nothing to show for it.

If you fail in landing a Rick Nash, you have a lesser player (may very well still be an all-star caliber player) for the next 7 years.

Again, there is no logic in keeping a player like Guerin when his contract is up after this season.
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