Tracking the Improbable...

[cprice12]

Why are you sticking up for BBZ when he's so obviously out to lunch here? There's nothing wrong with tracking how the Blues have done since they started playing better...

How exactly is he out to lunch? It seems to me that he is the only person backing his argument up with real facts. Seems everyone else is awarding us the Cup. (exaggerated sarcasm...please tell me you picked up on that)

You want to pick 13 instead of 3rd. Ok. I don't. Neither does BBZ. Why wouldn;t I stick up for him when we share the same view point? The difference in picking 3rd and 13th? In one senario you don't get a choice of the best 12 prospects. In the other, you don't get a choice of the best 2 prospects. You miss the playoffs in both. You are a bad team in both. One senario helps you rebuild almost immediately, one you have to wait a year or two before it pays off.

I know which one I want.

Many people were liking the Brewer for Hemsky rumors a few days ago. Upon looking over the past drafts...Hemsky was drafted 13th in 2001...and you know who was drafted #3 that year? Alexandr Svitov....who has only played in 103 games and has 6 goals.

I'd have rather had the 13th pick instead of the 3rd pick that year.

And if I remember correctly...Brewer was a top 5 pick in 1997....so we'd be trading #5 pick for a #13 pick. Hmmmm...

Hmmmm.....what? You want me to point out all the other years that the opposite was true?

You know, Datsyuk was drafted in the 6th round....we should just trade all of our picks for 6th rounders. If you want to live by the exception to the rule, go ahead. I'd rather go with the odds.

Odds or no odds...the Blues aren't going to get the #3 pick overall next draft. The sooner people realize this, the better.
Accept what we get by way of how we played this year, and live with it.
Realistically, I can totally see them getting the #8 or #9 pick...and I'm fine with that.

The NHL draft is one of the screwiest as far as sure things are concerned. Not very often does a sure thing come around in the draft. And when they do, they go 1st or 2nd overall. And being the worst team in the league is not something I want to go through again. But if it happens, I'll obviously take the #1 pick...but no way am I rooting for that to happen or do I want that to happen. It sucks.

And to say with absolute certainty that finishing poorly is the best thing for this franchise in the future, is simply wrong because the best player in the upcoming draft might not be recognized as so until well after the draft is over. ESPECIALLY in this year's draft where there isn't thought to be any exceptional players right now like a Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin, etc.

Could it be the best thing for the franchise to finish dead last? Sure it could. But it could also be the best thing for this franchise to pick 10th overall. And the reason I say this is because this kind of thing happens every single year.

[cprice12]

My case is that losing isn't all bad...especially when the best case scenarion for this season really isn't that good.

Well, technically speaking, the "best case scenrio" is the Blues continue their hot streak, make the playoffs, continue to be hot in the playoffs, upset some teams and win the cup.

I'd take that over losing.

Just sayin'.

[Hollywood]

Like you influenced him in some manner...

We all think for ourselves, just like I think you are an idiot.

OH NOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The racist piece of shit thinks I am an idoit.


C'mon, be honest. You don't think for yourself. You're too retarded to think for yourself. You let Jesse Helms do your thinking for you.

[mjhopper]

who has the link to that site which gives the probability of a team reaching the playoffs?

Here is the link...

its like zero-ish, dude.

HIlarious, dude.

it's an interest to me anyways

[deadphish]

What happened to hadley? Did he lose a bet or something? I havent seen or heard from him for a while.

I'm assuming he was preparing for free food day at the Scottrade Center.

[BringBackZezel]

My case is that losing isn't all bad...especially when the best case scenarion for this season really isn't that good.

Well, technically speaking, the "best case scenrio" is the Blues continue their hot streak, make the playoffs, continue to be hot in the playoffs, upset some teams and win the cup.

I'd take that over losing.

Just sayin'.

"Best case scenario" can only include what's possible.

It it impossible for this team to win the cup.

[BringBackZezel]

Like you influenced him in some manner...

We all think for ourselves, just like I think you are an idiot.

Just like we all know that you're a cock-sucking faggot.

[OS]

Just like we all know that you're a (#$@%!)-sucking faggot.

How would you know?

[BringBackZezel]

Just like we all know that you're a (#$@%!)-sucking faggot.

How would you know?

You sent me pictures of you two 69-ing each other.

[OS]

Just like we all know that you're a (#$@%!)-sucking faggot.

How would you know?

You sent me pictures of you two 69-ing each other.

You have some sick fantasies.

[bamabluesfan]

My case is that losing isn't all bad...especially when the best case scenarion for this season really isn't that good.

Well, technically speaking, the "best case scenrio" is the Blues continue their hot streak, make the playoffs, continue to be hot in the playoffs, upset some teams and win the cup.

I'd take that over losing.

Just sayin'.

"Best case scenario" can only include what's possible.

It it impossible for this team to win the cup.

Not impossible, I dont think it is going to happen, but it is not impossible. Until it is mathmatically impossible for the blues to make the playoffs, it is not impossible for them to win the cup.

[BringBackZezel]

Just like we all know that you're a (#$@%!)-sucking faggot.

How would you know?

You sent me pictures of you two 69-ing each other.

You have some sick fantasies.

I'm not the one sending out gay oral sex pictures.

It's one thing to send them, but I didn't really need an 8x10 glossy, and it certainly didn't need to be overnighted to me.

[TC]

i'm not reading the last several pages of wankery (which could be trimmed/split), but here's a question back on topic *gasp* that hopefully hasn't already been brought up - a few days ago, it was stated in the paper (i think) by JD (i think) that we'd have to be within 6 points of a playoff spot by the deadline to not be sellers.

do the math, pls. for me, once the team decides to be sellers, this thread is over, so that's a more valid projection i think.

[OS]

74.3% - Percentage of points needed to get to 95 points.

67.5% - Percentage of points needed to get to 90 points.

[OS]

i'm not reading the last several pages of wankery (which could be trimmed/split), but here's a question back on topic *gasp* that hopefully hasn't already been brought up - a few days ago, it was stated in the paper (i think) by JD (i think) that we'd have to be within 6 points of a playoff spot by the deadline to not be sellers.

do the math, pls. for me, once the team decides to be sellers, this thread is over, so that's a more valid projection i think.

I'm not sure what math you are wanting done.

There are 17 games between now and the deadline.

We're 11 points back.

So, we need to make up 5 points on (currently) Minnesota in those games.

[cprice12]

My case is that losing isn't all bad...especially when the best case scenarion for this season really isn't that good.

Well, technically speaking, the "best case scenrio" is the Blues continue their hot streak, make the playoffs, continue to be hot in the playoffs, upset some teams and win the cup.

I'd take that over losing.

Just sayin'.

"Best case scenario" can only include what's possible.

It it impossible for this team to win the cup.

I think you need to look up the word, "possible".
If the Blues get in the playoffs, it is in fact "possible" (yet highly unlikely) for them to win the cup.

The only time in which it becomes imposssible for the Blues to win the cup this season, is the instant they are either eliminated from playoff contention, or knocked out of the playoffs...and not a second sooner.

[BringBackZezel]

i'm not reading the last several pages of wankery (which could be trimmed/split), but here's a question back on topic *gasp* that hopefully hasn't already been brought up - a few days ago, it was stated in the paper (i think) by JD (i think) that we'd have to be within 6 points of a playoff spot by the deadline to not be sellers.

do the math, pls. for me, once the team decides to be sellers, this thread is over, so that's a more valid projection i think.

They have 17 games until the deadline and if everyone maintains current averages, Minnesota will be the 8 seed with 69 points at the deadline.

That means they have 17 games to pick up 23 points, for an average of 1.353 points per game.

So far this season, San Jose is averaging 1.348 P/G and Detroit is avg. 1.37 P/G

To be in 8th place at the deadline, they'd need to average 1.765 P/G and to be in 8th place after game 82, they'd need to average 1.405 P/G.

[OS]

For the record, the Blues are at 1.29 PPG under Murray, including the first two losses.

[BringBackZezel]

Based on averages, to get to within 6 points of 8th place by the trade deadline, the Blues will have to go 11-5-1 over the next 17.

[TC]

Based on averages, to get to within 6 points of 8th place by the trade deadline, the Blues will have to go 11-5-1 over the next 17.

thank you. that's what i wanted to see. that, and the above post, also based on averages. of course, with gaborik back.....

just wanted to point out the futility.... er, large hill the blues need to climb. i anxiously await the return of their fire sale, especially since players have done nothing but increase their value recently.