Patrick Kane Subject of Police Investigation

[SteveO]

That sports mockery site is a complete joke.

[Kerfuffle]

That sports mockery site is a complete joke.

Why do you say that?

[SteveO]

That sports mockery site is a complete joke.

Why do you say that?

At least the articles pertaining to Kane are nothing but unsubstantiated rumors.

Sports Mockery has received two different pieces of information, from separate sources with knowledge of the investigation, that indicate Patrick Kane will not be charged “at this time” with rape due to lack of evidence. This information has not been verified by the Buffalo News, Hamburg Police Department or the Erie County District Attorney’s Office.

Unverified rumors. I have knowledge of the investigation too but no source with any credibility is being cited.

[ecbm]

That sports mockery site is a complete joke.

Why do you say that?

You know most of what's on the internet is feces, right?

With all media these days I take the approach: what reason exactly are they citing for me to believe this story? Here it's a classic: we heard a rumor from someone we won't identify but it's not any respected news outlet or the authorities. It definitely isn't a "my brother's girlfriend's dog walker's nephew is a janitor at the municipal building and he overheard..." type rumor, or completely made up. Nope, definitely not clickbait for a dubious site...

[APOD]

So with all the Patrick Kane trade rumors going around now. I'm guessing he is looking at not being charged or being charged with something not requiring jail time.

I mean why would a team want a guy that can't play because of suspension or jail time, But I don't see the Hawks trading him if he isn't charged though.

Grain of salt though, could be teams just kicking the tires waiting on the result.

http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/7/71 ... trick-kane

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nhl/story/_/ ... ove-clause

[cprice12]

Rumor...

Blackhawks prepare to move on from Patrick Kane.
http://www.nhltraderumors.me/2015/09/re ... ve-on.html

According to Barry Rozner of Chicago's Daily Herald, the Chicago Blackhawks are preparing to move on without their star forward, Patrick Kane. Kane is currently under investigation for a sexual assault case that allegedly occurred in his home near Buffalo.

With only three weeks left until training camp, the Hawks are in a precarious position. Rozner reports:

Kane had been warned about his behavior, and the Hawks were not pleased that he announced at the Stanley Cup rally that he intended to act the fool again while celebrating the team’s third championship in six seasons.

The brand, the titles and the sweater go hand in hand as far as the Hawks are concerned, but no one player is bigger than the team and the Hawks and their litany of sponsors do not want to be known as a group that values winning above decency.

They do not want to be the Baltimore Ravens after the Ray Rice debacle, so the Hawks find themselves painted into a corner and Kane is holding the brush.

Many Chicago fans are angry that Chicago is considering trading away their star player, claiming Kane can't be held responsible until proven guilty. However, Kane has a past history of troubles with the law and the Hawks realize keeping Kane around damages the organization's public image.

[ComradeT]

Rumor...

Blackhawks prepare to move on from Patrick Kane.
http://www.nhltraderumors.me/2015/09/re ... ve-on.html

According to Barry Rozner of Chicago's Daily Herald, the Chicago Blackhawks are preparing to move on without their star forward, Patrick Kane. Kane is currently under investigation for a sexual assault case that allegedly occurred in his home near Buffalo.

With only three weeks left until training camp, the Hawks are in a precarious position. Rozner reports:

Kane had been warned about his behavior, and the Hawks were not pleased that he announced at the Stanley Cup rally that he intended to act the fool again while celebrating the team’s third championship in six seasons.

The brand, the titles and the sweater go hand in hand as far as the Hawks are concerned, but no one player is bigger than the team and the Hawks and their litany of sponsors do not want to be known as a group that values winning above decency.

They do not want to be the Baltimore Ravens after the Ray Rice debacle, so the Hawks find themselves painted into a corner and Kane is holding the brush.

Many Chicago fans are angry that Chicago is considering trading away their star player, claiming Kane can't be held responsible until proven guilty. However, Kane has a past history of troubles with the law and the Hawks realize keeping Kane around damages the organization's public image.

This is not a rumor. This is a bunch of hot air out of Barry Rozner's ass. If you read his actual article, it's all speculation, essentially summed up as follows:

"No one knows what is going on and therefore everyone should be prepared for everything."

His Twitter feed definitely warmed up today though. Mission accomplished.

[theohall]

This is not a rumor. This is a bunch of hot air out of Barry Rozner's ass. If you read his actual article, it's all speculation, essentially summed up as follows:

"No one knows what is going on and therefore everyone should be prepared for everything."

His Twitter feed definitely warmed up today though. Mission accomplished.

Maybe he is the sports mockery sites "unnamed source."

[cardsfan04]

I'd be shocked if they are shopping Kane. I would not be shocked if other teams inquired about him, although even that is a little surprising. Players don't tend to get traded in the middle of a potentially huge off the ice situation.

The player's current team never wants to sell low. The other teams don't want to give up much for that risk and PR hit.

Maybe I'm forgetting one, but I can't think of a single time a player was traded while awaiting resolution of a situation like this.

[cprice12]

Gilmour

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[cardsfan04]

That's a good example. I always forget that he started with us.

Still, I don't think it's common though.

[WaukeeBlues]

Was listening to NHL network radio yesterday and they had some guy on from Chicago who works for a newspaper I think who said that the insider info he has from the Hawks management is that the topic of trading him isn't even on the table until the situation is resolved one way or the other. I take "resolved" to mean that he officially isn't being charged or what the total ramifications are.

[crazyhorse]

Going to Grand Jury

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck- ... NlYwNzYw--

[Kerfuffle]

The problem with the grand jury is you only need 52% of yes votes from them to indict.

[cprice12]

The problem with the grand jury is you only need 52% of yes votes from them to indict.

I wouldn't say that is a "problem". I'd say that is fair since over half feels it needs to go to trial.

[cardsfan04]

Yeah, why is that a problem? There are loads of problems with our judicial system. I've never considered the burden of a grand jury hearing to be one of them though. If most people think that there is reason for a trial, shouldn't there be a trial?

[goon attack]

The problem with the grand jury is you only need 52% of yes votes from them to indict.

Yeah, but the pool of people is larger... up to 23 people in New York.

It's a pretty fair process I think. If a majority of people think it's a good idea to try someone, there's gotta be some pretty compelling evidence.

[cardsfan04]

I know this is a kinda cynical viewpoint, but I'm curious if the prosecutor going to a grand jury because he wants an indictment or because he doesn't like the optics of choosing not to indict. If he wants an indictment, he should be able to get one.

[goon attack]

I know this is a kinda cynical viewpoint, but I'm curious if the prosecutor going to a grand jury because he wants an indictment or because he doesn't like the optics of choosing not to indict. If he wants an indictment, he should be able to get one.

Under New York Law, the case (all felony cases) has to go to a grand jury unless the defendant says the prosecutor doesn't have to do so.

Grand juries indict, not the prosecutor him/herself.

The grand jury system protects us from careerist prosecutors, of which there are MANY. Most of them are douchers as far as I can tell.

[cardsfan04]

I know this is a kinda cynical viewpoint, but I'm curious if the prosecutor going to a grand jury because he wants an indictment or because he doesn't like the optics of choosing not to indict. If he wants an indictment, he should be able to get one.

Under New York Law, the case (all felony cases) has to go to a grand jury unless the defendant says the prosecutor doesn't have to do so.

Grand juries indict, not the prosecutor him/herself.

The grand jury system protects us from careerist prosecutors, of which there are MANY. Most of them are douchers as far as I can tell.

I didn't realize that about NY. It's not like that in MO. That probably doesn't bode well for Kane then. I read that this prosecutor has a really high conviction rate. So, if he thinks he has a case . . .