Newport Sports Management Inc.

[WaukeeBlues]

Brayden Schenn left Newport last summer and hired a different agent. Re-signs with the Blues.

Jayden Schwartz left Newport this last May and hired a different agent. Presumably a good sign for the Blues looking to re-sign him.

I've been reading snippets here and there. Does anyone have any good articles on Newport? I'm getting the prevailing sense that Newport is just in it for the most money most term possible, regardless of what their clients really ultimately want.

Would Pietrangelo be re-signed if he wasn't a Newport client?

[cprice12]

Who knows?
But Petro said he trusts them and he's been with them since "the beginning". So I guess there's some loyalty there.
The fact that Petro gave the impression he wasn't really involved with negotiations and that he'd just get updates, makes me think he trusted them to get the best deal for him and that was the agreement.
I dunno man... When we're talking more money than you can really spend and being filthy rich in one town and filthy rich in another... if he REALLY wanted to sign here and it was as important to him as we all thought it was and he made that clear to his agent, then 100% he'd have signed a deal here.
Staying in STL was apparently not real high on his list...contrary to what he implied to us and therefore what most fans think.
It's quite possible that Armstrong knew Petro wasn't going to ditch Newport, and knew how they operated and how they were looking for the most money and the most years (if they indeed were...and that seems to be the case), and knew the chances of resigning Petro were slim... so he jumped on getting Faulk, re-signing Scandella & signing Krug.
It sucks. Everyone wanted him back... but if a guy wants the most years and the most money and a full NMC and a huge signing bonus... then good luck. That's a boat load of demands. And good for him for getting it. Very few players have that kind of contract where the team has zero options with you and the player is in complete control.
Sucks for Blues fans for sure.

[WaukeeBlues]

Who knows?
But Petro said he trusts them and he's been with them since "the beginning". So I guess there's some loyalty there.
The fact that Petro gave the impression he wasn't really involved with negotiations and that he'd just get updates, makes me think he trusted them to get the best deal for him and that was the agreement.
I dunno man... When we're talking more money than you can really spend and being filthy rich in one town and filthy rich in another... if he REALLY wanted to sign here and it was as important to him as we all thought it was and he made that clear to his agent, then 100% he'd have signed a deal here.
Staying in STL was apparently not real high on his list...contrary to what he implied to us and therefore what most fans think.
It's quite possible that Armstrong knew Petro wasn't going to ditch Newport, and knew how they operated and how they were looking for the most money and the most years (if they indeed were...and that seems to be the case), and knew the chances of resigning Petro were slim... so he jumped on getting Faulk, re-signing Scandella & signing Krug.
It sucks. Everyone wanted him back... but if a guy wants the most years and the most money and a full NMC and a huge signing bonus... then good luck. That's a boat load of demands. And good for him for getting it. Very few players have that kind of contract where the team has zero options with you and the player is in complete control.
Sucks for Blues fans for sure.

Yea with the benefit of hindsight things are clearer than they were before. I think you're precisely right on him letting Newport handle the negotiations. He referenced just getting updates and largely going about his day, even on Oct. 9 and if that's what he was doing on THAT day then it's hard to imagine he was intimately involved earlier. But by the same token Strickland reported there was at least one full sit down meeting between Petro, Stillman and Army that apparently "did not go well" so I know he was at least involved.

Yup, I think Army "knew" it wasn't going to get done and the Faulk trade and everything after that makes more sense in that context.

He wanted to stay in St. Louis as long as he got what he wanted... or very close. I think he would've budged a "bit" on the contract to stay, but not nearly to the level that the negotiations were at apparently. Adjusted for taxes he got $9.4 AAV from Vegas. The most the Blues offered was, publicly, $8? Maybe we assume the Blues came up a little beyond that?

Stamkos is a great example: He came down on the AAV but he got massive signing bonus money and full NMC. I believe Petro would have been agreeable to the same thing: I'll help you guys on the AAV but you gotta help me on the structure. Blues wouldn't go far enough.

Yea as time is going on I'm settling into reality. I read the article on the Krug visit and that looks like it went well so that's good. There's certainly an argument to be made that as an organization with that type of player you just give them what they want. But I get why they didn't, or maybe couldn't (as far as signing bonus goes. I have not heard a single legitimate argument as to why a full NMC is so radically different for Army than a full NTC that he couldn't give Petro that, but I digress).

But as you say, at the end of the day the Blues made him a legitimate offer of $8 x 8 and he said no.

[theohall]

https://www.thehockeyagency.com/players-section/nhl

FYI - the same agency represents RFA Vince Dunn who is still unsigned and does not have arbitration rights.

They are the agent on record for Tyler Bozak, Ryan O'Reilly (who got one of those signing bonus deals), and Robert Thomas (who is up next season as a non-arbitration eligible RFA - like Vince Dunn right now.)

This agency is notorious for wanting signing bonuses over salary. Why? It guarantees the agency gets paid a large chunk of dineros the same time the signing bonus is paid, vice them being paid over time with salary like players.

[cprice12]

https://www.thehockeyagency.com/players-section/nhl

FYI - the same agency represents RFA Vince Dunn who is still unsigned and does not have arbitration rights.

They are the agent on record for Tyler Bozak, Ryan O'Reilly (who got one of those signing bonus deals), and Robert Thomas (who is up next season as a non-arbitration eligible RFA - like Vince Dunn right now.)

This agency is notorious for wanting signing bonuses over salary. Why? It guarantees the agency gets paid a large chunk of dineros the same time the signing bonus is paid, vice them being paid over time with salary like players.

And Schenn dropped Newport, hired someone else...and got a deal done.
He wanted to get a deal done and he wanted to stay here...so much so that he dumped his agent to get it done.
I liked Schenn before... but after he did that, that endeared him to me a lot more. A player who genuinely wants to stay here and will fire an agent to make sure that happens, jumps right to the top of my liked players list.
One could argue he's good captain material too... and his actions with Newport make that case even stronger.
It's a shame Petro didn't feel the same way.

[WaukeeBlues]

https://www.thehockeyagency.com/players-section/nhl

FYI - the same agency represents RFA Vince Dunn who is still unsigned and does not have arbitration rights.

They are the agent on record for Tyler Bozak, Ryan O'Reilly (who got one of those signing bonus deals), and Robert Thomas (who is up next season as a non-arbitration eligible RFA - like Vince Dunn right now.)

This agency is notorious for wanting signing bonuses over salary. Why? It guarantees the agency gets paid a large chunk of dineros the same time the signing bonus is paid, vice them being paid over time with salary like players.

And Schenn dropped Newport, hired someone else...and got a deal done.
He wanted to get a deal done and he wanted to stay here...so much so that he dumped his agent to get it done.
I liked Schenn before... but after he did that, that endeared him to me a lot more. A player who genuinely wants to stay here and will fire an agent to make sure that happens, jumps right to the top of my liked players list.
One could argue he's good captain material too... and his actions with Newport make that case even stronger.
It's a shame Petro didn't feel the same way.

Schenn is my next jersey purchase. Skill, versatile, can drop the gloves when needed, going to be around for years... yes sir

[glen a richter]

Back in the 90's around when Jerry McGuire came out, I really wanted to pursue sports agency as a career path but the bottom line is I couldn't be a cutthroat enough SOB to get my favorite players top dollar from teams I don't like as opposed to hometown discounts to keep them with the teams I did like and I'd probably have lost more clients than I kept because of that.