UPDATE PT.2: Kovalchuk (NHL VOIDS CONTRACT W/NJ)
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Perron and Berglund have to step it up.
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It appears obvious to me that whatever offensive moves Army is planning, they aren't going to be substantial, unless we come out of nowhere in the Gagne sweepstakes.
I'm quite frustrated. Last season's offense obviously didn't get it done, and we've only lost players (e.g. Kariya and Tkachuk). Is management hoping last year was a fluke and/or just increasing playing time will get it done?
I'm quite frustrated. Last season's offense obviously didn't get it done, and we've only lost players (e.g. Kariya and Tkachuk). Is management hoping last year was a fluke and/or just increasing playing time will get it done?
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Re: Forget Kovalchuk
Jim "Teh Cat" Hayes knows about boys.Krigloch the Furious wrote:Who knows about Boyes
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Sounds like he's gonna resign with the Devils.
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TSN is reporting he already did.philco_3 wrote:Sounds like he's gonna resign with the Devils.
see page 1
edit: I take that back. The website says "as soon as Monday."
Sounds like a done deal though.
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Kovalchuk hasn't signed yet. The NJD would be >10% over the cap, and thats a big no-no. The NJD need to trade away a player before they can sign Kovalchuk, and now all 29 other teams know this, and will want a core player for cheap. This is far from over.
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yea I spoke too soon, I didn't read the fine print on the TSN webpage.Winning Unlimited wrote:Kovalchuk hasn't signed yet. The NJD would be >10% over the cap, and thats a big no-no. The NJD need to trade away a player before they can sign Kovalchuk, and now all 29 other teams know this, and will want a core player for cheap. This is far from over.
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Re: Forget Kovalchuk
Jackman and Brewer for Parise.
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Why does everyone think you will get something cheap. Their GM is Lou, not Lar. I don't care if you gotta make a deal or not. If you have an asset that more than one party wants, be it a car or a hockey player, you pit one against the other. The Blues offer a #4 for player x, because they think they have them over a barrel. They don't have to take it. If the Wild think that player is worth a #3, they will out bid the Blues, regardless of whether they are helping NJ.
That's what I never understand about people defending the return Lar got for Pronger.
That's what I never understand about people defending the return Lar got for Pronger.
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Apparently, the Devils are getting ready to sign all up on Kovy. Lou is quoted this morning, saying
Maybe a deal is worked out, but I don't understand trading for a $4.5M Arnott.
http://twitter.com/TGfireandice"Don't worry about my cap."
Maybe a deal is worked out, but I don't understand trading for a $4.5M Arnott.
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Yea that makes even less sense now.Winning Unlimited wrote:Apparently, the Devils are getting ready to sign all up on Kovy. Lou is quoted this morning, saying
http://twitter.com/TGfireandice"Don't worry about my cap."
Maybe a deal is worked out, but I don't understand trading for a $4.5M Arnott.
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$8.57 million per.
Probably slightly overpaid, but not by a ton.
I was figuring he was worth about $8 million per.
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I think to put it in perspective....cprice12 wrote:$8.57 million per.
Probably slightly overpaid, but not by a ton.
I was figuring he was worth about $8 million per.
What if we bring in Frolov at about 4.5 mill a year......and we could have had Kovalchuck for only 4 mill more a year.
Or the fact that he's only making 4 mill more a year then Eric Brewer.
That said, he turned down much 'larger' offers, so there is no way to know he would have taken a similar deal from us.
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So can we pony up for Parise??? I would love for the Blues to finally be able to give Lou the same type of screw-job we got from that putz!
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Ummm Alex, can I get "cutting dead weight defensive liability captain" for 500 please?
DaDitka wrote:I think to put it in perspective....cprice12 wrote:$8.57 million per.
Probably slightly overpaid, but not by a ton.
I was figuring he was worth about $8 million per.
What if we bring in Frolov at about 4.5 mill a year......and we could have had Kovalchuck for only 4 mill more a year.
Or the fact that he's only making 4 mill more a year then Eric Brewer.
That said, he turned down much 'larger' offers, so there is no way to know he would have taken a similar deal from us.
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Maybe a 2nd rounder and Janssen?A-Yo! wrote:So can we pony up for Parise??? I would love for the Blues to finally be able to give Lou the same type of screw-job we got from that putz!
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The best screw job is to get all 29 other teams together, and not trade with New Jersey. Force Kovy elsewhere. Which, by the way, should have happened to Chicago, but Florida and Toronto had to bail them out.philco_3 wrote:Maybe a 2nd rounder and Janssen?A-Yo! wrote:So can we pony up for Parise??? I would love for the Blues to finally be able to give Lou the same type of screw-job we got from that putz!
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Janssen for Salvador!!! Oh wait, nobody would ever take that trade...philco_3 wrote:Maybe a 2nd rounder and Janssen?A-Yo! wrote:So can we pony up for Parise??? I would love for the Blues to finally be able to give Lou the same type of screw-job we got from that putz!
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"Only" $4 million more?DaDitka wrote:I think to put it in perspective....cprice12 wrote:$8.57 million per.
Probably slightly overpaid, but not by a ton.
I was figuring he was worth about $8 million per.
What if we bring in Frolov at about 4.5 mill a year......and we could have had Kovalchuck for only 4 mill more a year.
Or the fact that he's only making 4 mill more a year then Eric Brewer.
That said, he turned down much 'larger' offers, so there is no way to know he would have taken a similar deal from us.
That's quite a bit more.
If Frolov played to his potential, I think he'd be a better value than Kovalchuk...but I wouldn't want him at $4.5 million since he doesn't play to his potential.
Kings fans will tell you he is lazy and takes nights off, which would explain Frolov's point totals decreasing each of the last 4 years.
If we could get him for $3.25-$3.75 million for 3-4 years, I'd do that...but anything more...I dunno if I want to risk quite that much on him rebounding.
Frolov is one of those guys whom if you can get him cheap, would be a low-risk, very high-reward type of thing. Plus, he's only 28 years old...so you could argue that the next few years should be his best.
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