We are finally getting some Respect

Discuss the St. Louis Blues, the NHL, or anything hockey. (Formerly the Blues News Forum)

Moderator: LGB Mods

User avatar
DaDitka
Hall Of Fame
Hall Of Fame
Posts: 2800
Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:21 pm
Location: sailing with the Captain

Re: We are finally getting some Respect

Post by DaDitka »

thedoc wrote:
kodos wrote:It's also stupid because anyone who is paying attention knows that Halak is the teams starter.
He is now. But I was one of those earlier in the year that said I really like Elliott. I really think if it wasn't for Elliott pushing Halak they way he has Halak would not have played to this kind of potential. IMO.

True, but from the start it was Elliott's job to push Halak, IMO it was never Elliot's job to take it. Halak was going to be the #1 come hell or high water in April.
Image

2012-2013 Official LGB Sponsor of Patrik 'Bulan' Berglund

not_a_wings_fan
Hall Of Fame
Hall Of Fame
Posts: 3382
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:27 pm
Location: Anywhere but here

Re: We are finally getting some Respect

Post by not_a_wings_fan »

F Keenan wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1092 ... tanley-cup
NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs 2012: Why the St. Louis Blues Can't Win the Stanley Cup
By Peter Mills (Contributor) on March 7, 2012 49 reads 0

(Long ass article about how the blues can't score and therefore can't win the cup)

I have no idea what the bleacher report is, but I know they are morons.

After writing a poorly written, poorly researched, and ignorant article about why the blues "can't" win the cup, they pick the Rangers as the favorites.

Um, well, the blues and rangers have nearly identical numbers of goals for/goals against and nearly identical differentials. Doesn't that mean they can't win the cup either or is the difference simply that if you score about 6 more goals over 66 games it makes all the difference in the post-season tourney? :roll:

I will grant them that there is reason to be concerned about the lack of consistent scoring, but that article was a poorly reasoned hack job.
Official 2008-2015 LGB Sponsor of Barret Jackman

User avatar
STLADOGG
All-Star
All-Star
Posts: 2492
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:41 pm
Location: -Saint Freaking Louis-

Re: We are finally getting some Respect

Post by STLADOGG »

not_a_wings_fan wrote:
F Keenan wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1092 ... tanley-cup
NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs 2012: Why the St. Louis Blues Can't Win the Stanley Cup
By Peter Mills (Contributor) on March 7, 2012 49 reads 0

(Long ass article about how the blues can't score and therefore can't win the cup)

I have no idea what the bleacher report is, but I know they are morons.

After writing a poorly written, poorly researched, and ignorant article about why the blues "can't" win the cup, they pick the Rangers as the favorites.

Um, well, the blues and rangers have nearly identical numbers of goals for/goals against and nearly identical differentials. Doesn't that mean they can't win the cup either or is the difference simply that if you score about 6 more goals over 66 games it makes all the difference in the post-season tourney? :roll:

I will grant them that there is reason to be concerned about the lack of consistent scoring, but that article was a poorly reasoned hack job.
Other than that Vancouver game, we have been scoring a lot it seems.
Image
Official Stalker of Paul "Speedy Gonzalez" Kariya
2014-2015 Official LGB Sponsor of Vladimir Tarasenko
TW Tiger Woods TW

not_a_wings_fan
Hall Of Fame
Hall Of Fame
Posts: 3382
Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:27 pm
Location: Anywhere but here

Re: We are finally getting some Respect

Post by not_a_wings_fan »

STLADOGG wrote:
not_a_wings_fan wrote:
F Keenan wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1092 ... tanley-cup
NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs 2012: Why the St. Louis Blues Can't Win the Stanley Cup
By Peter Mills (Contributor) on March 7, 2012 49 reads 0

(Long ass article about how the blues can't score and therefore can't win the cup)

I have no idea what the bleacher report is, but I know they are morons.

After writing a poorly written, poorly researched, and ignorant article about why the blues "can't" win the cup, they pick the Rangers as the favorites.

Um, well, the blues and rangers have nearly identical numbers of goals for/goals against and nearly identical differentials. Doesn't that mean they can't win the cup either or is the difference simply that if you score about 6 more goals over 66 games it makes all the difference in the post-season tourney? :roll:

I will grant them that there is reason to be concerned about the lack of consistent scoring, but that article was a poorly reasoned hack job.
Other than that Vancouver game, we have been scoring a lot it seems.
By objective standards, no, we haven't been scoring alot.

Big difference is A-Mac is on a 46 goal season pace over the last 14 games since he returned - which would further skewer their points in the article.

The key is overall team defense and goal tending. Halak has given up 3 goals only twice since the first of the year - 20 games - and the blues are 17-3 when he starts over that span. Three regulation losses since the new year with Halak in net. For the record, that's significantly better than Lundqvist and the rangers - and everyone else in the league - over that span.
Official 2008-2015 LGB Sponsor of Barret Jackman

cardsfan04
Hall Of Fame
Hall Of Fame
Posts: 4027
Joined: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:43 am

Re: We are finally getting some Respect

Post by cardsfan04 »

STLADOGG wrote:
not_a_wings_fan wrote:
F Keenan wrote:http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1092 ... tanley-cup
NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs 2012: Why the St. Louis Blues Can't Win the Stanley Cup
By Peter Mills (Contributor) on March 7, 2012 49 reads 0

(Long ass article about how the blues can't score and therefore can't win the cup)

I have no idea what the bleacher report is, but I know they are morons.

After writing a poorly written, poorly researched, and ignorant article about why the blues "can't" win the cup, they pick the Rangers as the favorites.

Um, well, the blues and rangers have nearly identical numbers of goals for/goals against and nearly identical differentials. Doesn't that mean they can't win the cup either or is the difference simply that if you score about 6 more goals over 66 games it makes all the difference in the post-season tourney? :roll:

I will grant them that there is reason to be concerned about the lack of consistent scoring, but that article was a poorly reasoned hack job.
Other than that Vancouver game, we have been scoring a lot it seems.
yep. If my math is right, Blues have 48 goals in the 14 games since McDonald has returned. That has a few 5 goal games which skew things a little bit. But, by the numbers, not only has our scoring not been a weakness, it has been a strength since he came back.
2010-2011 Official LGB Sponsor of Kevin Shattenkirk
2016-2017 Official LGB Sponsor of Dmitri Jaskin
2017-2018 Official LGB Sponsor of Jake Allen

fargoblues
LGB Booster - Yellow
LGB Booster - Yellow
Posts: 1886
Joined: Wed Jul 23, 2003 9:02 pm
Location: In Fargo, eh?

Re: We are finally getting some Respect

Post by fargoblues »

extended periods of absence from AMac, Perron, and Steen, and to a lesser extent ', will skew your offensive stats quite a bit. someone who doesn't know any better and is only looking at an aggregate stat sheet won't pick up on that. Getting AMac and Perron back has transformed the offense on this team, not just in goals scored but the offensive approach. Get the others back and that's a bonus. We'll be just fine with our offense. we're used to low scoring games. the negative shock comes to teams that are used to scoring at will that suddenly play a team that plays defense.
Official LGB Sponsor of Bernie Federko's Stonewashed Jeans, Custom Cabinets, and cold Busch Light.

User avatar
theohall
Hockey God
Hockey God
Posts: 9239
Joined: Thu Feb 20, 2003 9:49 pm
Location: Jacksonville, FL

Re: Re: We are finally getting some Respect

Post by theohall »

fargoblues wrote:extended periods of absence from AMac, Perron, and Steen, and to a lesser extent ', will skew your offensive stats quite a bit. someone who doesn't know any better and is only looking at an aggregate stat sheet won't pick up on that. Getting AMac and Perron back has transformed the offense on this team, not just in goals scored but the offensive approach. Get the others back and that's a bonus. We'll be just fine with our offense. we're used to low scoring games. the negative shock comes to teams that are used to scoring at will that suddenly play a team that plays defense.
Chase mentioned the AMac Perron thing on the radio yesterday afternoon. Specifically, the Blues never changed their power play. They just got AMac and Perron back which "fixed" the power play.
Official LGB sponsor of Robert Thomas 2022-2023 Season

Post Reply