Brewer Update.
Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:58 pm
Discuss the St. Louis Blues, the NHL, or whatever.
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glen a richter wrote:thank heavens for Bryce Lampman!
God, what is it with this team and the love for golf?!I want to be able to do things and I ask all the time. I want to train more, go for a run, go skating, or swing a golf club. But I'm just not ready for it. It's all right ... I'll get there at some point.
Which lead the team until Jackman started to suck it up. Ooops I forgot about Boyes too.illownyou wrote:Was doing a little number diving and Brewer has totalled a -59 since coming the Blues in 4 seasons, 2 of which he missed over half of the season and an astounding -14 in 28 games last year!!!
Yuck.
Traditiondrwoland wrote:God, what is it with this team and the love for golf?!I want to be able to do things and I ask all the time. I want to train more, go for a run, go skating, or swing a golf club. But I'm just not ready for it. It's all right ... I'll get there at some point.
I like Boyes and all, but that dude is the biggest defensive liability evar. If he could actually play both ends of the ice, this team would be much improved.philco_3 wrote:Which lead the team until Jackman started to suck it up. Ooops I forgot about Boyes too.illownyou wrote:Was doing a little number diving and Brewer has totalled a -59 since coming the Blues in 4 seasons, 2 of which he missed over half of the season and an astounding -14 in 28 games last year!!!
Yuck.
Yup. It's too bad the PP doesn't help your +/-, cause then he would in the + then.glen a richter wrote:I like Boyes and all, but that dude is the biggest defensive liability evar. If he could actually play both ends of the ice, this team would be much improved.philco_3 wrote:Which lead the team until Jackman started to suck it up. Ooops I forgot about Boyes too.illownyou wrote:Was doing a little number diving and Brewer has totalled a -59 since coming the Blues in 4 seasons, 2 of which he missed over half of the season and an astounding -14 in 28 games last year!!!
Yuck.
Honestly, half of that was having Andy McDonald as his center. McDonald at center is an even bigger defensive liability than Boyes. That's why he was moved to wing with Backes as the center. Boyes was actually +1 the second half of the season.glen a richter wrote:I like Boyes and all, but that dude is the biggest defensive liability evar. If he could actually play both ends of the ice, this team would be much improved.philco_3 wrote:Which lead the team until Jackman started to suck it up. Ooops I forgot about Boyes too.illownyou wrote:Was doing a little number diving and Brewer has totalled a -59 since coming the Blues in 4 seasons, 2 of which he missed over half of the season and an astounding -14 in 28 games last year!!!
Yuck.
With how good that second half was for the Blues and he was only a +1? Not much of an accomplishment for a top-line player IMO.JWatt (formerly PMS) wrote:Honestly, half of that was having Andy McDonald as his center. McDonald at center is an even bigger defensive liability than Boyes. That's why he was moved to wing with Backes as the center. Boyes was actually +1 the second half of the season.glen a richter wrote:I like Boyes and all, but that dude is the biggest defensive liability evar. If he could actually play both ends of the ice, this team would be much improved.philco_3 wrote:Which lead the team until Jackman started to suck it up. Ooops I forgot about Boyes too.illownyou wrote:Was doing a little number diving and Brewer has totalled a -59 since coming the Blues in 4 seasons, 2 of which he missed over half of the season and an astounding -14 in 28 games last year!!!
Yuck.
To be fair, he is a powerplay specialist. As long as he can stay around even at even strength, he's a major asset to the team. Look at some of the other top line players on good teams without gaudy +/- numbers:ProngerBlues44 wrote:With how good that second half was for the Blues and he was only a +1? Not much of an accomplishment for a top-line player IMO.JWatt (formerly PMS) wrote:Honestly, half of that was having Andy McDonald as his center. McDonald at center is an even bigger defensive liability than Boyes. That's why he was moved to wing with Backes as the center. Boyes was actually +1 the second half of the season.glen a richter wrote:I like Boyes and all, but that dude is the biggest defensive liability evar. If he could actually play both ends of the ice, this team would be much improved.philco_3 wrote:Which lead the team until Jackman started to suck it up. Ooops I forgot about Boyes too.illownyou wrote:Was doing a little number diving and Brewer has totalled a -59 since coming the Blues in 4 seasons, 2 of which he missed over half of the season and an astounding -14 in 28 games last year!!!
Yuck.
Fine, damnit Backes!!!JWatt (formerly PMS) wrote:To be fair, he is a powerplay specialist. As long as he can stay around even at even strength, he's a major asset to the team. Look at some of the other top line players on good teams without gaudy +/- numbers:
Crosby, 103 pts, +3
Iginla, 89 pts, -2
Cammalleri, 82 pts, -2
Kane, 72 pts, -2
I also don't hear you complaining about Backes only being +1 the 2nd half of the season either.