Re: Fire Murray?
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:16 pm
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DAN O’NEILL
I don’t think Andy Murray will have any trouble taking this team to the next level, as long as David Backes (31 goals last season) scores more than once this season, as long as T. J. Oshie scores more than twice, as long as Paul Kariya gets another point – he hasn’t in 10 games, as long as Brad Boyes gets back the pace he’s shown the past couple of seasons, as long as Erik Johnson contributes more than one goal this season.
According to the most recent NHL stats, Murray hasn’t had a shot on goal all season. Only four teams in the league have a smaller goals-against average per game than the Blues’ average of 2.5. Coaching isn’t the problem.
Yeah, we never should have fired Kitchen. He didn't allow any goals or have any shots the season and a half that we were the worst team in the NHL.DaDitka wrote:DAN O’NEILL
I don’t think Andy Murray will have any trouble taking this team to the next level, as long as David Backes (31 goals last season) scores more than once this season, as long as T. J. Oshie scores more than twice, as long as Paul Kariya gets another point – he hasn’t in 10 games, as long as Brad Boyes gets back the pace he’s shown the past couple of seasons, as long as Erik Johnson contributes more than one goal this season.
According to the most recent NHL stats, Murray hasn’t had a shot on goal all season. Only four teams in the league have a smaller goals-against average per game than the Blues’ average of 2.5. Coaching isn’t the problem.
This is why Dan is seldom heard from.
It's the coach's job to get that out of their players. That's what they are (*#$&ing) paid for!
Are they there to 'look good'? Murray Fails
Good interviews? Fail!
Keep the team and lines in order? Fail!
What does he do?
Actually, the Blues average of 2.50 goals against is good for 8th best in the league (maybe their responses were given when in fact we were 5th best). The teams in the top 7 have an average 65.4% winning percentage to our 44.4%. We are bottom 5 in the league in winning percentage. We can build a 5-man fort around the goal to keep the goals against down (and tops in the league), but that only stifles our offensive game that much more. A coach doesn't need a talented team to keep the puck out of the net (grinders!!!). We need an offensive, attack the puck type system, and we need it soon.DAN O’NEILL
I don’t think Andy Murray will have any trouble taking this team to the next level, as long as David Backes (31 goals last season) scores more than once this season, as long as T. J. Oshie scores more than twice, as long as Paul Kariya gets another point – he hasn’t in 10 games, as long as Brad Boyes gets back the pace he’s shown the past couple of seasons, as long as Erik Johnson contributes more than one goal this season.
According to the most recent NHL stats, Murray hasn’t had a shot on goal all season. Only four teams in the league have a smaller goals-against average per game than the Blues’ average of 2.5. Coaching isn’t the problem.
If you didn't read any of this, here are some highlights. Mind you this was written by Kings fans over 2 years ago (almost 3 now)... it is kind of creepy how dead on some of their comments are. Apologizies for the length.
Has AM done the news article thing here in STL? That is kinda creepy...He will do more with less than most coaches can...but, after a while, the players will stop listening. He plays mind games with the kids as well, works with some, doesn't work with others.
Once your in his doghouse, you don't get out.
Murray will bring discipline to the Blues, but I think in the end the players will find him to be inflexible.
It'll be interesting to see if the Blues injury toll goes up under Murray.
Sometimes he can be too detail oriented & it stifles player's creativity
The bottom line is, everything looks good in the beginning. Once all these settle, familiar complaints, injuries, and grudges will start to come out again
And the Blues announcers went on to talk about AM's fondness for slipping newspaper supplements into players lockers and under hotel room doors....
I can't stand it when people use that argument.DAN O’NEILL
I don’t think Andy Murray will have any trouble taking this team to the next level, as long as David Backes (31 goals last season) scores more than once this season, as long as T. J. Oshie scores more than twice, as long as Paul Kariya gets another point – he hasn’t in 10 games, as long as Brad Boyes gets back the pace he’s shown the past couple of seasons, as long as Erik Johnson contributes more than one goal this season.
According to the most recent NHL stats, Murray hasn’t had a shot on goal all season. Only four teams in the league have a smaller goals-against average per game than the Blues’ average of 2.5. Coaching isn’t the problem.
I think a good example of this is Chan Gailey with the Chiefs last year. The offense had no one of any consequence, and he figured out how to make the offense perform at nearly league average for a pretty good stretch. He changed his style to fit his personnel.cprice12 wrote:I can't stand it when people use that argument.DAN O’NEILL
I don’t think Andy Murray will have any trouble taking this team to the next level, as long as David Backes (31 goals last season) scores more than once this season, as long as T. J. Oshie scores more than twice, as long as Paul Kariya gets another point – he hasn’t in 10 games, as long as Brad Boyes gets back the pace he’s shown the past couple of seasons, as long as Erik Johnson contributes more than one goal this season.
According to the most recent NHL stats, Murray hasn’t had a shot on goal all season. Only four teams in the league have a smaller goals-against average per game than the Blues’ average of 2.5. Coaching isn’t the problem.
It's Murray's job to get the most out of his players. Period.
People who have been paying attention, know that this is a good team and should have a much better record than it does.
If the blame doesn't fall on the head coach for their performance so far this season, when will it ever?
Coaching is most definitely the problem here Dan.
back at that time I could not believe what was said about Murray...TSUCookieMonster wrote:If you didn't read any of this, here are some highlights. Mind you this was written by Kings fans over 2 years ago (almost 3 now)... it is kind of creepy how dead on some of their comments are. Apologizies for the length.
Has AM done the news article thing here in STL? That is kinda creepy...He will do more with less than most coaches can...but, after a while, the players will stop listening. He plays mind games with the kids as well, works with some, doesn't work with others.
Once your in his doghouse, you don't get out.
Murray will bring discipline to the Blues, but I think in the end the players will find him to be inflexible.
It'll be interesting to see if the Blues injury toll goes up under Murray.
Sometimes he can be too detail oriented & it stifles player's creativity
The bottom line is, everything looks good in the beginning. Once all these settle, familiar complaints, injuries, and grudges will start to come out again
And the Blues announcers went on to talk about AM's fondness for slipping newspaper supplements into players lockers and under hotel room doors....
He wouldn't score as many goals with Murray as his head coach. He'd probably wind up with half after getting benched for not playing enough defense.ohio BLUES wrote:Sergei Ovechkin?
Right.. But Sergei?theohall wrote:He wouldn't score as many goals with Murray as his head coach. He'd probably wind up with half after getting benched for not playing enough defense.ohio BLUES wrote:Sergei Ovechkin?
Only reason I used him is I'm in VA and the Caps games are on all the time.
Sounds like a Jocelyn Lemieux situation.glen a richter wrote:the younger, more talented brother of Alexander Ovechkin? Draft him up!