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Re: GDT- Note @ Columbus Blue Jackets- 6 PM Central

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:59 pm
by Nyghtewynd
Fire Murray. The season's just about over if they don't.

Re: GDT- Note @ Columbus Blue Jackets- 6 PM Central

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:12 pm
by drwoland
Yup. We played a team that knows what to do when the other team pulls their goalie. Hope we were taking notes.

Re: GDT- Note @ Columbus Blue Jackets- 6 PM Central

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:30 pm
by JPonder94
This team is a joke to watch. When was the last time we actually connected on a pass out of the zone?

They just simply aren't playing for Murray. Add in the fact that Kariya is still getting top-line time, and that really pushes for a Murray firing.

Yes, I am aware of that he scored tonight. Doesn't mean he played a good overall game.

Re: GDT- Note @ Columbus Blue Jackets- 6 PM Central

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:26 am
by TSUCookieMonster
ProngerBlues44 wrote: Add in the fact that Kariya is still getting top-line time, and that really pushes for a Murray firing.
Didn't Kariya score one of the goals last night??

:wink:

But seriously, I agree. But we BOTH know that nothing is going to change after this game. Just another loss... another day with Murray... another chance.

Re: GDT- Note @ Columbus Blue Jackets- 6 PM Central

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:16 am
by ohio BLUES
25 games into the season and Murray has managed a .500 record.

Checketts and Co. will soon have to back up their talk, and if they don't, their talk has been worthless.

"St. Louis Blues' 2009-2010 Season: A Year For the Dumpster." (Advertise that!)

Re: GDT- Note @ Columbus Blue Jackets- 6 PM Central

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 7:26 am
by DaDitka
We came out in the third playing not to lose again. Not only does that never work, but I’m not sure they noticed that we were only tied….not leading to start the third anyways.

Perhaps Murray was “playing for the point on the road”, but when you’ve played as poorly as you have you can’t afford yourself that luxury.

Re: GDT- Note @ Columbus Blue Jackets- 6 PM Central

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:23 am
by Oz-iz-God
Even with our stretch of decent play recently - did anyone have any hope at all once CBJ scored that third goal?

I flipped to football game. I knew the Blues were done scoring for the night because I've seen this particular movie too many times this year.

They'll give one good period. If that period isn't enough to get them a lead (which Murray can then go into a shell with), they lose.

Dump Murray.

Re: GDT- Note @ Columbus Blue Jackets- 6 PM Central

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:25 am
by kodos
ohio BLUES wrote:25 games into the season and Murray has managed a .500 record.

Checketts and Co. will soon have to back up their talk, and if they don't, their talk has been worthless.

"St. Louis Blues' 2009-2010 Season: A Year For the Dumpster." (Advertise that!)

Overtime losses are losses and should not count toward having a .500 record.

I don't consider 10-10-5 a .500 record.

Re: GDT- Note @ Columbus Blue Jackets- 6 PM Central

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:54 am
by JPonder94
Oz-iz-God wrote:I flipped to football game. I knew the Blues were done scoring for the night because I've seen this particular movie too many times this year.
At least the football game was fun to watch, right? I enjoyed watching Belicheck & Co. get stomped.

Re: GDT- Note @ Columbus Blue Jackets- 6 PM Central

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 9:59 am
by Krigloch the Furious
Once again we see boring shit hockey.
JD and co need their asses kicked. This is f'ing stupid.

Re: GDT- Note @ Columbus Blue Jackets- 6 PM Central

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:25 am
by Sweetred95ta
kodos wrote:Overtime losses are losses and should not count toward having a .500 record.

I don't consider 10-10-5 a .500 record.
I agree. For the 5 overtime/shootout losses, we were not the better of the two teams. Plain and simple.

Re: GDT- Note @ Columbus Blue Jackets- 6 PM Central

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:53 pm
by ViPeRx007
Listening to EJ's comments in between periods (i think it was 2nd intermission) sounded sort of like an indirect slap at Murray if anyone caught it.

He basically said what we've been saying here the whole time. I'm paraphrasing but he said something like they have to play to their strength and keep pressure and not sit back; play to win rather than playing like they're hoping not to lose. Unfortunately the latter seemed to be the case AGAIN and the result was the same AGAIN.

Re: GDT- Note @ Columbus Blue Jackets- 6 PM Central

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:26 pm
by dmiles2186
ViPeRx007 wrote:Listening to EJ's comments in between periods (i think it was 2nd intermission) sounded sort of like an indirect slap at Murray if anyone caught it.

He basically said what we've been saying here the whole time. I'm paraphrasing but he said something like they have to play to their strength and keep pressure and not sit back; play to win rather than playing like they're hoping not to lose. Unfortunately the latter seemed to be the case AGAIN and the result was the same AGAIN.
I mentioned this in Flashchat. He can see it, we can see it, but for whatever reason, every 3rd period, the Blues come out on their heels whether that's by design or not.

Re: GDT- Note @ Columbus Blue Jackets- 6 PM Central

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:29 pm
by ViPeRx007
dmiles2186 wrote:
ViPeRx007 wrote:Listening to EJ's comments in between periods (i think it was 2nd intermission) sounded sort of like an indirect slap at Murray if anyone caught it.

He basically said what we've been saying here the whole time. I'm paraphrasing but he said something like they have to play to their strength and keep pressure and not sit back; play to win rather than playing like they're hoping not to lose. Unfortunately the latter seemed to be the case AGAIN and the result was the same AGAIN.
I mentioned this in Flashchat. He can see it, we can see it, but for whatever reason, every 3rd period, the Blues come out on their heels whether that's by design or not.
Well it's a piece of shit design if that's the case.

Re: GDT- Note @ Columbus Blue Jackets- 6 PM Central

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:47 am
by cprice12
ViPeRx007 wrote:
dmiles2186 wrote:
ViPeRx007 wrote:Listening to EJ's comments in between periods (i think it was 2nd intermission) sounded sort of like an indirect slap at Murray if anyone caught it.

He basically said what we've been saying here the whole time. I'm paraphrasing but he said something like they have to play to their strength and keep pressure and not sit back; play to win rather than playing like they're hoping not to lose. Unfortunately the latter seemed to be the case AGAIN and the result was the same AGAIN.
I mentioned this in Flashchat. He can see it, we can see it, but for whatever reason, every 3rd period, the Blues come out on their heels whether that's by design or not.
Well it's a piece of shit design if that's the case.
And in my opinion, that is 100% Murray's fault. It's his job to get the players to play to their capabilities within his system...and he is failing.

Re: GDT- Note @ Columbus Blue Jackets- 6 PM Central

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:35 am
by BF44
cprice12 wrote:
ViPeRx007 wrote:
dmiles2186 wrote:
ViPeRx007 wrote:Listening to EJ's comments in between periods (i think it was 2nd intermission) sounded sort of like an indirect slap at Murray if anyone caught it.

He basically said what we've been saying here the whole time. I'm paraphrasing but he said something like they have to play to their strength and keep pressure and not sit back; play to win rather than playing like they're hoping not to lose. Unfortunately the latter seemed to be the case AGAIN and the result was the same AGAIN.
I mentioned this in Flashchat. He can see it, we can see it, but for whatever reason, every 3rd period, the Blues come out on their heels whether that's by design or not.
Well it's a piece of shit design if that's the case.
And in my opinion, that is 100% Murray's fault. It's his job to get the players to play to their capabilities within his system...and he is failing.
On 101.1 yesterday, Chris Mason made a comment that "we need to play in the system the coach wants, regardless of whether we agree with it or not". Now, I don't wanna take this completely out of context, he was clearly laying the blame at the feet of the players for the most part, but this one statement stuck out at me.

It's seeming more and more like Murray has lost the team......

Re: GDT- Note @ Columbus Blue Jackets- 6 PM Central

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:49 am
by DaDitka
BF44 wrote:On 101.1 yesterday, Chris Mason made a comment that "we need to play in the system the coach wants, regardless of whether we agree with it or not". ......

I believe that was a bit of a retort to Walt’s postgame comments in which he clearly question the ‘playing not to lose’ theory Murray like to lean on.

Re: GDT- Note @ Columbus Blue Jackets- 6 PM Central

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:57 am
by northwest dave
DaDitka wrote:
BF44 wrote:On 101.1 yesterday, Chris Mason made a comment that "we need to play in the system the coach wants, regardless of whether we agree with it or not". ......

I believe that was a bit of a retort to Walt’s postgame comments in which he clearly question the ‘playing not to lose’ theory Murray like to lean on.
That is false and JR cleared it up in his blog.
Tkachuk was talking about the players

Re: GDT- Note @ Columbus Blue Jackets- 6 PM Central

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:44 am
by BF44
northwest dave wrote:
DaDitka wrote:
BF44 wrote:On 101.1 yesterday, Chris Mason made a comment that "we need to play in the system the coach wants, regardless of whether we agree with it or not". ......

I believe that was a bit of a retort to Walt’s postgame comments in which he clearly question the ‘playing not to lose’ theory Murray like to lean on.
That is false and JR cleared it up in his blog.
Tkachuk was talking about the players
Just to play Devil's Advocate, was that "clarification" or "damage control"?

Re: GDT- Note @ Columbus Blue Jackets- 6 PM Central

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:56 pm
by fargoblues
BF44 wrote:
northwest dave wrote:
DaDitka wrote:
BF44 wrote:On 101.1 yesterday, Chris Mason made a comment that "we need to play in the system the coach wants, regardless of whether we agree with it or not". ......

I believe that was a bit of a retort to Walt’s postgame comments in which he clearly question the ‘playing not to lose’ theory Murray like to lean on.
That is false and JR cleared it up in his blog.
Tkachuk was talking about the players
Just to play Devil's Advocate, was that "clarification" or "damage control"?
Yes. :ninja: