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GDT: Flames @ Blues, 7 pm, KMOX

Postby SamJunior » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:39 am

No local tv...

Home game means loss this season, so:

Blues 5
Flames 7

Perron scores 5 times, then he will be traded after the game immediately!
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Re: GDT: Flames @ Blues, 7 pm, KMOX

Postby ohio BLUES » Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:52 am

For the future of this team, a loss tonight seems good. Would go a long way to getting Murray booted.

So of course they'll win in some unbelievable (as everything is with John Kelly) fashion. "What a ________!"
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Re: GDT: Flames @ Blues, 7 pm, KMOX

Postby dmiles2186 » Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:24 am

ohio BLUES wrote:For the future of this team, a loss tonight seems good. Would go a long way to getting Murray booted.



Nope. Just like I said in the Edmonton GDT, it's not going to happen....

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BY JEREMY RUTHERFORD
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
12/15/2009

Forgive Blues fans if they're a bit tentative going through the turnstiles tonight at Scottrade Center.

On Dec. 5, 2006, the last time Brett Hull returned to St. Louis to be honored in a pregame ceremony, the game that followed didn't come close to matching the scene of Hull's No. 16 being raised to the rafters.

"It was a special night for the fans, and then we came out and laid an egg," said Keith Tkachuk, one of only four Blues, along with Jay McClement, Barret Jackman and Eric Brewer, who were in the lineup that night.
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"What was the score ... 5-0 for Detroit?" Blues coach Andy Murray asked.


It was actually 5-1 in favor of the Red Wings. Murray wasn't on the bench for that fateful evening, but the result of the game was perhaps one of the reasons he joined the Blues a week later. The fallout of the team's fifth straight loss led to the ouster of Mike Kitchen as Blues coach and the introduction of Murray.

Tonight, the details will be eerily similar, as Hull returns to be honored for his recent induction into the Hockey Hall of Fame. On another December evening with No. 16 in the building, the Blues are trying to fend off speculation that changes are imminent.

"We're in a different place than we were," Blues President John Davidson said. "Detroit was on top of their game at that point and we were in transition. I give our guys a lot of credit. We were just trying to put a team together, just trying to compete. That night, it was like a hot knife going through butter. The night itself was wonderful, but the game ... OOOF!

"But we're in a different place now. We'll compete Tuesday, no question."

In 2006, the Blues were 7-15-3 and had lost their last four games heading into "Brett Hull Night." This time, they are 13-12-5, including 5-3-1 in their last nine games.

But the sting of Friday's 5-3 loss to Edmonton, a game the Blues led 3-0, is still throbbing. Instead of talking about how the club is taking steps to turn the corner, critics have spent the last three days debating the inconsistencies of a club that is 8-2-3 on the road and 4-10-2 at Scottrade Center.

Another result of Friday's loss is rampant speculation about the future of Murray with the Blues, a topic that Davidson attempted to play down Monday.

"We're all responsible ... every one of us," Davidson said. "I have to answer to Mr. Checketts and ownership every day. We all have people to answer to. It's a very emotional world, the world of sports. But we who are in charge have to keep our wits and make decisions that are stable. Decisions will get made along the way. We have to do what's right for the club."

Davidson said the circumstances are different today from when the Blues fired Kitchen 2½ months into the 2006 season.

"Going back to Mike's days, in my opinion, it was right to keep him in place (at the start of the season)," Davidson said. "Mike was not dealt a good hand and it was hard for him to get into a position of winning with that group. But we needed somebody with a little more experience because of the situation we were in, and Andy was able to provide that for us."

In three-plus seasons with the Blues, Murray has a record of 114-97-39. Last season, he led the club to its first playoff appearance in four seasons. Before the start of this season, the Blues picked up the option on Murray's contract for 2010-11, and about a month ago, owner Dave Checketts gave Murray a vote of confidence.

On Monday, Murray said: "I believe in our players, and I'm going to keep doing that. The bottom line is, that's what you have to do in a situation like this. I believe they'll get it done."

Well, if "Brett Hull Night - Part 2" isn't the perfect opportunity for the Blues to redeem themselves, then what is?

"We'll be ready this time," Tkachuk said. "It'll be a special night."
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Re: GDT: Flames @ Blues, 7 pm, KMOX

Postby F Keenan » Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:40 am

Hope tonight is better than the first Brett Hull night. I feel good about this one.

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Re: GDT: Flames @ Blues, 7 pm, KMOX

Postby DaDitka » Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:32 am

ohio BLUES wrote:For the future of this team, a loss tonight seems good. Would go a long way to getting Murray booted.



Agreed.

I don't want another home win until Murray is gone.

We enjoyed that second half run last year and that bought Murray this year. It's the season of giving and we need to stop being so selfish. We must release our lust for points and embrace what’s best for the organization.
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Re: GDT: Flames @ Blues, 7 pm, KMOX

Postby gaijin » Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:38 am

DaDitka wrote:
ohio BLUES wrote:For the future of this team, a loss tonight seems good. Would go a long way to getting Murray booted.



Agreed.

I don't want another home win until Murray is gone.

We enjoyed that second half run last year and that bought Murray this year. It's the season of giving and we need to stop being so selfish. We must release our lust for points and embrace what’s best for the organization.


Hey- I thought you got fired!

No prediction, so I'll just say :detsucks: :hawkssuck: :gheylords:
And for good measure, :cubssuck:
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Re: GDT: Flames @ Blues, 7 pm, KMOX

Postby Bleed Blue » Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:05 am

We can't get rid of Murray. we opted to extend his contract in September, and now we're stuck with him until at least the 10-11 season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4476022
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Re: GDT: Flames @ Blues, 7 pm, KMOX

Postby kodos » Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:31 am

Bleed Blue wrote:We can't get rid of Murray. we opted to extend his contract in September, and now we're stuck with him until at least the 10-11 season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4476022


Uh... no.

We just have to pay him until then. We can can his ass whenever we want.
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Re: GDT: Flames @ Blues, 7 pm, KMOX

Postby ohio BLUES » Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:58 am

This just in: Berglund in the press box, Janssen on the bench (58 minutes) and likely briefly on the ice (2 minutes).
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Re: GDT: Flames @ Blues, 7 pm, KMOX

Postby kodos » Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:10 pm

This would be the game to lose in a spectacular fashion. It would be very symbolic.

What JD should do is get the whole team in a room and tell them that if they lose Murray gets fired and if they win he gets to stay as the coach for the rest of the year. See how the team responds.
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Re: GDT: Flames @ Blues, 7 pm, KMOX

Postby WaukeeBlues » Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:29 pm

kodos wrote:What JD should do is get the whole team in a room and tell them that if they lose Murray gets fired and if they win he gets to stay as the coach for the rest of the year. See how the team responds.


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Re: GDT: Flames @ Blues, 7 pm, KMOX

Postby Krigloch the Furious » Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:31 pm

Big loss. Lets go blues!!!!
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Re: GDT: Flames @ Blues, 7 pm, KMOX

Postby fargoblues » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:27 pm

No TV = win. Home game = lose. Murray = teh Suck. advantage: lose.
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Re: GDT: Flames @ Blues, 7 pm, KMOX

Postby section319 » Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:41 pm

I'm sure we will win just to buy Murray more time and we will probably continue the pattern th rest of the year.

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Re: GDT: Flames @ Blues, 7 pm, KMOX

Postby Sweetred95ta » Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:41 pm

Bleed Blue wrote:We can't get rid of Murray. we opted to extend his contract in September, and now we're stuck with him until at least the 10-11 season.

Wonderful first post. :facepalm:

I heard on the radio today that the game is, in fact, on VS. Has anyone else heard this?
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Re: GDT: Flames @ Blues, 7 pm, KMOX

Postby WaukeeBlues » Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:56 pm

Bleed Blue wrote:We can't get rid of Murray. we opted to extend his contract in September, and now we're stuck with him until at least the 10-11 season.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4476022


Wait, so Charlie Weis is still the coach of Notre Dame?!
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Re: GDT: Flames @ Blues, 7 pm, KMOX

Postby WaukeeBlues » Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:58 pm

And oh yea...

Blues 1
Flames 5

Despite his best efforts, Murray won't be able to completely stifle Perron and he'll get a goal. Then Murray will throw a temper tantrum that Winchester wasn't allowed to score, order everyone to "put in more effort" and then be applauded for such comments by JD and Checketts.
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Re: GDT: Flames @ Blues, 7 pm, KMOX

Postby cprice12 » Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:55 pm

Sweetred95ta wrote:
Bleed Blue wrote:We can't get rid of Murray. we opted to extend his contract in September, and now we're stuck with him until at least the 10-11 season.

Wonderful first post. :facepalm:

I heard on the radio today that the game is, in fact, on VS. Has anyone else heard this?


VS official site says they are playing the Flyers & Penguins game at 7pm...no mention of the Blues being aired on VS tonight.
http://www.versus.com/nw/article/view/1 ... rticle.tpl

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Re: GDT: Flames @ Blues, 7 pm, KMOX

Postby section319 » Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:57 pm

It is on center ice though I saw, so I guess I'll be at wild wings in Columbia.
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Re: GDT: Flames @ Blues, 7 pm, KMOX

Postby cprice12 » Tue Dec 15, 2009 4:01 pm

Versus' Accuscore page says the Blues will win this game:
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