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Is Bergy done here?

Postby strocklen083 » Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:57 pm

He sat again last night in favor of Cam. When he does play he's not playing more than 10 minutes a game. It's kinda hard to believe a guy who showed so much talent last year continues to watch from the press box in favor of a fighter/grinder. I know he's not having a great season offensively, but neither is anyone else. I get the feeling they're just waiting for the right type of deal to flip him.

It's unfortunate because of the promise he showed last year. I partially want to blame Murray for what's happened but at some point the player has to shoulder the blame for not executing no matter what system they're playing under. I'm still hopeful he can pull it together but it's kinda hard if you're watching from 5 stories up.

What do you guys think?
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Re: Is Bergy done here?

Postby Sweetred95ta » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:04 pm

I don't understand why he's not in Peoria playing some games, whether they're looking to trade him or not. I definitely would like to see him stay with the Blues, but it will never work with Murray as the coach. Bergs is lost right now.
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Re: Is Bergy done here?

Postby WaukeeBlues » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:43 pm

I totally forgot about him.

If that says anything at all... :facepalm:
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Re: Is Bergy done here?

Postby cprice12 » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:43 pm

Unless the return for Berglund is very good, I would hope that management would fire Murray and try a different coach before trading a supposed future star like Berglund.

Berglund is still very young...it would be silly to give up on him this early in his career.
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Re: Is Bergy done here?

Postby WaukeeBlues » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:44 pm

cprice12 wrote:Unless the return for Berglund is very good, I would hope that management would fire Murray and try a different coach before trading a supposed future star like Berglund.

Berglund is still very young...it would be silly to give up on him this early in his career.


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Re: Is Bergy done here?

Postby stlmark » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:51 pm

cprice12 wrote:Unless the return for Berglund is very good, I would hope that management would fire Murray and try a different coach before trading a supposed future star like Berglund.

Berglund is still very young...it would be silly to give up on him this early in his career.


B-i-n-g-o!!!! 100% agreed! :cup:
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Re: Is Bergy done here?

Postby dmiles2186 » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:53 pm

stlmark wrote:
cprice12 wrote:Unless the return for Berglund is very good, I would hope that management would fire Murray and try a different coach before trading a supposed future star like Berglund.

Berglund is still very young...it would be silly to give up on him this early in his career.


B-i-n-g-o!!!! 100% agreed! :cup:


But...it's not going to happen. Not soon anyway.
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Re: Is Bergy done here?

Postby DaDitka » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:59 pm

cprice12 wrote:Unless the return for Berglund is very good, I would hope that management would fire Murray and try a different coach before trading a supposed future star like Berglund.

Berglund is still very young...it would be silly to give up on him this early in his career.



I know heading into the season, many in the organization believed Bergie had the highest ceiling of the three kids.

Al in particular referred to him as a future star, and even stated that he did not believe Murray was handling him properly.
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Re: Is Bergy done here?

Postby strocklen083 » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:17 pm

cprice12 wrote:Unless the return for Berglund is very good, I would hope that management would fire Murray and try a different coach before trading a supposed future star like Berglund.

Berglund is still very young...it would be silly to give up on him this early in his career.

I completely agree with both points. Unfortunately I dont see the first happening any time soon. Which in turn has the potential to limit his development and possibly see him leave via trade if he doesn't turn things around soon.

DaDitka wrote:I know heading into the season, many in the organization believed Bergie had the highest ceiling of the three kids.

Al in particular referred to him as a future star, and even stated that he did not believe Murray was handling him properly.

I hear lots of people say that or quote players on the team as saying so. But IMO he's regressing this year by sitting so much. It might just be a "change of scenery" thing. But the only scenery that I think needs to change in order to help him (and some of the other young guys thrive) is the coaching.
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Re: Is Bergy done here?

Postby big d note » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:34 pm

When Berglund was in Sweden, I remember Ehijo (where have you been??) posting that Berglund tended to get down on himself very quickly when he wasn't playing well. He is probably putting a huge amount of pressure on himself this season. I wonder if the Blues have a sports psychologist on staff that can help with situations like that?

I sure hate to see him traded and flourish somewhere else, but maybe he will never be a star player in the NHL. How long do you give him before you write him off as Backman 2.0?
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Re: Is Bergy done here?

Postby strocklen083 » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:45 pm

big d note wrote:I sure hate to see him traded and flourish somewhere else, but maybe he will never be a star player in the NHL. How long do you give him before you write him off as Backman 2.0?

It seems WAY too early for that. Backman never flourished in the first place where as Berglund had a solid season last year.
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Re: Is Bergy done here?

Postby Krigloch the Furious » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:55 pm

system system system!
Matt Cassel is not a good QB. Put him in a good system and he is Tom Brady.
Im so tired of Murray and the rest of the front office.
They have completely wasted 30 games. Good job, jackoffs
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Re: Is Bergy done here?

Postby glen a richter » Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:15 pm

Krigloch the Furious wrote:system system system!
Matt Cassel is not a good QB. Put him in a good system and he is Tom Brady.
Im so tired of Murray and the rest of the front office.
They have completely wasted 30 games. Good job, jackoffs


Do you have a soccer example for Reel? He's into that kind of thing more than American football.
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Re: Is Bergy done here?

Postby dmiles2186 » Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:58 pm

glen a richter wrote:
Krigloch the Furious wrote:system system system!
Matt Cassel is not a good QB. Put him in a good system and he is Tom Brady.
Im so tired of Murray and the rest of the front office.
They have completely wasted 30 games. Good job, jackoffs


Do you have a soccer example for Reel? He's into that kind of thing more than American football.


Maybe Tom Brady is a system QB. He's never been in any other pro system other than Belicheck's. Just sayin'.

Oh and Glen...Landon Donovan anywhere but the US sucks. He's the greatest international American goal scorer but when he goes to any other league, he performs pretty poorly.
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Re: Is Bergy done here?

Postby Leedog » Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:17 pm

Brian Sutter made hull a healthy scratch a couple times and it didn't seem to hurt his developement.
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Re: Is Bergy done here?

Postby Jeffro » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:09 pm

WaukeeBlues wrote:I totally forgot about him.

If that says anything at all... :facepalm:


Well, it says to me that you're a complete goddamn moron.
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Re: Is Bergy done here?

Postby WaukeeBlues » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:44 pm

Jeffro wrote:
WaukeeBlues wrote:I totally forgot about him.

If that says anything at all... :facepalm:


Well, it says to me that you're a complete goddamn moron.


I think even an 8 year old with the mental capacity of a retarded chimp would automatically know that statement wasn't meant to be taken literally.

Nice to hear from you again though Jeffro, how have you been, how's life?

You were starting to concern me, I hadn't heard from you in a while. :roll:
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Re: Is Bergy done here?

Postby goon attack » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:14 pm

hermosa beach bergie?
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Re: Is Bergy done here?

Postby Ruutu15 » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:38 pm

goon attack wrote:hermosa beach bergie?


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