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Eric Staal to the Blues...??
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:10 pm
by thedoc
Has anyone heard this about Eric Staal being traded to us in return for DP, Petro and Cole? Thomas Casey on the ice report said that there was an article in the newspaper about this in Carolina. Let me know what you know.
PS. If this is the DaDitka messing with us again I will throw him off of the parking garage.
Re: Eric Staal to the Blues
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:13 pm
by glen a richter
This is the dumbest trade idea I could possibly imagine at the present moment.
Way too much talent being traded for a guy who will come in and be a complete bust once he dons the note. The only way this team will become a winner is with the nucleus of young talent intact as long as possible and a new coach who knows how to use them.
Re: Eric Staal to the Blues
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:14 pm
by abc789987
I don't like. This better not be true.
Re: Eric Staal to the Blues
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:15 pm
by philco_3
glen a richter wrote:This is the dumbest trade idea I could possibly imagine at the present moment.
Way too much talent being traded for a guy who will come in and be a complete bust once he dons the note. The only way this team will become a winner is with the nucleus of young talent intact as long as possible and a new coach who knows how to use them.
But would it surprise you if they did do a trade though? I appears that AM doesnt give two shits about the youth, so they would trade them to make him happy.
Re: Eric Staal to the Blues
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:18 pm
by DaDitka
It's all over the interwebs,
TPC said he knew the Blues were preparing an offer but was unaware that Cole was included.
With the report the DP wanted a trade and his contract is up, I figured we'd shop him.
I just figured he and Petro would have more than enough value by themselves.
Re: Eric Staal to the Blues
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:20 pm
by glen a richter
I think at some point management would have to tell Murray that he's a complete horses ass. I don't think that point in time is anytime soon, unfortunately.
So no, I wouldn't be surprised to see some jackhole trade like this take place. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Carolina win the cup--again--inside of the next 2 years with a solid blueline duo of Pie and Cole and DP scoring 40g/60a a year.
It seems to me that this team has a history of making the most absolutely wrong trades at the most absolutely wrong times, regardless of who's in charge upstairs, and that those awful trades often help the other team at least reach the finals, if not win it all.
Re: Eric Staal to the Blues
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:20 pm
by thedoc
Staal is only 25. I don't mind that DP and Petro part so much but Cole as well. This seems like we are opening the piggy bank a bunch. There is a rumor that DP asked to be traded and his contract is going to be up. We have his rights but if he won't play for Murray it might not be bad to let him go. Staal did have 40 goals last season even though he has been slumping a bit so far. Most importantly the last 4 years he has played in all 82 games so that could help big for us.
Re: Eric Staal to the Blues
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:21 pm
by glen a richter
DaDitka wrote:It's all over the interwebs,
TPC said he knew the Blues were preparing an offer but was unaware that Cole was included.
With the report the DP wanted a trade and his contract is up, I figured we'd shop him.
I just figured he and Petro would have more than enough value by themselves.
With all due respect, Ditka, that thread re: Murray getting fired kind of sucked balls. You may need to rebuild your credibility....
Re: Eric Staal to the Blues
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:23 pm
by glen a richter
thedoc wrote:Staal is only 25. I don't mind that DP and Petro part so much but Cole as well. This seems like we are opening the piggy bank a bunch. There is a rumor that DP asked to be traded and his contract is going to be up. We have his rights but if he won't play for Murray it might not be bad to let him go. Staal did have 40 goals last season even though he has been slumping a bit so far. Most importantly the last 4 years he has played in all 82 games so that could help big for us.
I mind giving up 3 guys for one. That being 3 guys who would probably be perennial all stars if they were playing in a system that didn't blow chunks.
Guaranteed those 3 play for any other team, Carolina or whoever, and they show their true potential inside of their first two games with the team. I'll even throw them a freebie to get acclimated to a new squad.
Unless this actually is JD's master plan to build the team through the draft in the form of drafting potentially great players then selling them off in groups for one proven guy. Either way, it sort of sucks.
Re: Eric Staal to the Blues
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:24 pm
by strocklen083
Strickland via Twitter wrote:"John Davidson tells me the Blues have had zero talks with Carolina regarding a trade for Eric Staal"
Re: Eric Staal to the Blues
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:25 pm
by BF44
Here's the article from Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun:
http://www.ottawasun.com/sports/columni ... 35876.html
Bruce Garrioch wrote:It might be go big or go home for the Blues.
While many NHL insiders are shocked coach Andy Murray is still behind the bench, the Blues have waited so long to fire him that they missed out on the best coach available — Peter Laviolette — so now the word is St. Louis is eyeing the possibility of trying to make a blockbuster deal.
Sure, the Blues might be dreaming, but there are whispers in league circles they might make a pitch to the struggling Hurricanes for centre Eric Staal, who went into last night’s game against the Senators with only four goals and 10 assists in 21 games this season.
Sad numbers for a guy who is scheduled to make an average of $8.25 million (all terms US) a season through 2015-16.
The 25-year-old Staal has also managed to play himself out of contention for a spot on the Canadian Olympic squad.
Still, it’s hard to believe the Hurricanes would give up on the player who all but willed the team into the Eastern Conference final last spring with incredible performances against the Devils and Bruins before Carolina fell to the eventual Stanley Cup-winning Penguins.
“He could be just having a bad season, (but) this is a guy who could do no wrong last year,” said a league executive.
Of course, if you’re the Blues it never hurts to ask.
Plus, St. Louis does have young assets like defenceman Alex Piertrangelo, winger David Perron and 2007 No. 1 pick Ian Cole, a blueliner at Notre Dame, to offer up if Carolina wants to deal.
If the Hurricanes were to trade Staal, if would just about ensure they finish dead last — where they sit now — and give them a great shot at landing the No. 1 overall pick in next June’s draft
Re: Eric Staal to the Blues
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:25 pm
by kodos
HI. I'M A QUESTION MARK. YOU MIGHT KNOW ME FROM SUCH THREADS AS ONES THAT AREN'T ACTUALLY FACTUAL AND ARE JUST RUMORS. LIKE THIS ONE... OR WAIT???
Re: Eric Staal to the Blues
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:25 pm
by DaDitka
strocklen083 wrote:Strickland via Twitter wrote:"John Davidson tells me the Blues have had zero talks with Carolina regarding a trade for Eric Staal"
So, it's a done deal then.
Re: Eric Staal to the Blues
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:26 pm
by BF44
Strickland via Twitter wrote:"John Davidson tells me to tell everyone that the Blues have had zero talks with Carolina regarding a trade for Eric Staal"
Fixed.....
Re: Eric Staal to the Blues
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:27 pm
by DaDitka
kodos wrote:
HI. I'M A QUESTION MARK. YOU MIGHT KNOW ME FROM SUCH THREADS AS ONES THAT AREN'T ACTUALLY FACTUAL AND ARE JUST RUMORS. LIKE THIS ONE... OR WAIT???
I think he was asking if anyone else had heard anythign about it.
ESPN radio not only mentioned the report, TPC said he had heard if from a Blues source earlier this week. He was simply asking if anyone else here had any more insight then the radio report.
Re: Eric Staal to the Blues
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:29 pm
by kodos
If he was asking, it needs a question mark.
It's not rocket science...
And actually, I think I might be okay with this trade. I'd feel better about it if we could keep Perron, but hey... got to give to get...
Re: Eric Staal to the Blues
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:30 pm
by DaDitka
kodos wrote:If he was asking, it needs a question mark.
Gotcha.......my bad
Re: Eric Staal to the Blues
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:32 pm
by WaukeeBlues
I'm really getting sick of this.
Please include in the title of your thread "Rumor: " or something. This is the 2nd time in a week. Newbs.
Re: Eric Staal to the Blues
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:33 pm
by thedoc
It was a question. Sorry I didn't use proper punctuation. By the way that is a picture of Kang not Kodos.
Re: Eric Staal to the Blues
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:33 pm
by BF44
kodos wrote:If he was asking, it needs a question mark.
It's not rocket science...
And actually, I think I might be okay with this trade. I'd feel better about it if we could keep Perron, but hey... got to give to get...
In reading more closely, it looks like maybe Garrioch migh thave been listing assets Rutherford may be interested in... not necessarily that it would take all 3 to get Staal..... We shouldn't have to pay so much for a salary dump. I don't like losing Perron. Perhaps if we sent them Berglund in a 57 sweater??