Leedog wrote: ViPeRx007 wrote: Leedog wrote: philco_3 wrote:
Leedog wrote:I think Payne is the WRONG guy for the job if you expect a change in philosophy right away. Teams usually have their top minor league coach cut from the same cloth as the NHL coach so the players are groomed for the style of the NHL team. I'm afraid you will find, "meet the new boss, same as the old boss".
Nope. They wanted him to play the same sort of style in Peoria, but he wouldnt do it.
No, I have never been to a Rivermen game. I live in STL and have Blues season tix. Why should I? But, if what you say is true, I'm very disappointed in management for promoting the guy instead of firing him. He put his wishes above his bosses plans for the franchise. Ever think it is his fault the young guys that got promoted didn't play well up here? It is like sending them to school to be an electrician and hiring them as plumbers.
Grasping hard for some pretty tiny straws there Leedog. For one thing, you contradicted your original comment about "...new boss, same as the old boss". Then you go on to complain about how Payne should have been fired for being different.
I guess I don't understand what is it that you really want?
I said he was the wrong guy for the job assuming he was AM Jr. which is the norm in the NHL. Then I was corrected and told his teams were free skating, and that management told him to coach a style like AM, but refused. I stood corrected about his style... maybe he is the right guy if you want a different style play. However, if he was told by management to adapt his style so the players would be more prepared to play for a call up to the NHL, and refused, he should have been canned for insubordination, not given a promotion. And if he was asked to alter his style and refused, the inability for guys like Eller and Jungland to step in and play for AM is at least partially on him.
I respect the guy for wanting to coach the way he knows how to coach. Why should he do something he's not comfortable doing? He obviously uses a system that he thinks is best, so why should he change it?
If management didn't like that, they could have fired him and brought in a puppet. Good for Payne.
Maybe management didn't fire him because they knew they had a decent coach there. JD said Payne had an offer to coach with a club in the NHL last offseason, but management wanted him to stay in the organization. Good thing I guess.