Felix wrote:goon attack wrote:Look you pansies: This is still a TRANSITIONAL period. These youngsters are doing well. Johnson's upside is TREMENDOUS.
But in my opinion we a still one-two top offensive payers away from being true contender and two-three years away players development wise.
Today I surfed hockeydb.com and discovered that all Chicago players except Toews and Kane were drafted before 2004. And their team sucked even after that. Only drafting Kane and Toews put Chicago on top. Of course one can mention signings of Campbell and Hossa before this season but without Toews and Kane Hawks would not had bright future before them.
Blues draft-wise are just opposite. All prospects that Blues rely on as a part of their future success were drafted after 2004 (With Swartz being 2004 1st round bust). It means that our prospects had less time to develop (let's hope Payne will help in this respect). Besides, our UFAs and vets has not pan out as expected.
So, my opinion is that we are just "Kane" and/or "Toews" and at least tow years away from being on top in the conference.
Do not kill me for that but I believe we'd better tank this season and draft in top 2 or top 3 (to take a future offensive star) rather than finish 18-20th, draft a player whom we'll wait for several years, continue being mediocre and thinking how to sell a farm for a star player.
As much as I hate their new groupie fans and whatnot, the Hawks ARE a good example to use. Aside from their brief stint when we beat them in the playoffs, they've sucked it up big time and tried 100 different things that didn't work.
At one point is was Ruutu-Arnason that were going to to take them to the top. Traded Arnason. Bochenski didn't work out, traded HIM. Ruutu got dealt. They switched gears, signing vets like Havlat, and for the first few years, that didn't work. Their defensemen were struggling mightily for the longest time before now, just this season and last (Seabrook, Keith, Barker, etc) really started to settle in and be powerful dmen. They drafted a TON of guys (a lot of whom didn't pan out or were traded) and took the better part of a decade to be team they are now. And even despite a penny-pinching owner.
It's just a lesson that when you do it this way- building from within and signing vets at the same time- it just takes time. None of us want to hear it but it's true. Hey, at least last year we started to see what this team COULD be and in my opinion WILL be.