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DJ King the 3rd best fighter in the league?

Postby big d note » Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:33 pm

The Wall Street Journal (!) sez so:

The Goon Patrol: Rating Hockey's Fighters

The Elo algorithm, which adjusts a team's or player's record based on the strength of competition, is used to rank everything from chess players to BCS college-football teams. Now it can also be used to determine who are the best—wait for it—hockey fighters.

These days, fans who cherish a little pugilism with their hockey can go online and watch video of the fights and vote for who won and lost each one, or if it ended in a tie. By using these fans' decisions to drive the Elo algorithm, which was developed by Hungarian physicist Arpad Elo 50 years ago, we can see who the best hockey fighters truly are—and eliminate anyone who embellishes their record by never mixing it up with a top heavyweight.

There are no surprises at the top of our ranking list: Georges Laraque, who most recently played for the Montreal Canadiens and just had his contract bought out by the club, had a 19-fight unbeaten streak over two seasons, according to the fans' voting, and has beaten No. 2 Derek Boogaard, of the Minnesota Wild, four times. The algorithm really helps the Pittsburgh Penguins' Eric Godard, who has a .500 record in his fights but tends to fight only the toughest players in the league.

The system also identifies the best infrequent or up-and-coming fighters: Zdeno Chára of the Boston Bruins and Minnesota's John Scott (both undefeated), and 5-foot-11 Rick Rypien of the Vancouver Canucks, who uses technical skills to best much larger fighters.
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Here are the NHL's top fighters since the 2005-06 season, with the Elo algorithm used to adjust players' records, according to fans' votes on Hockeyfights.com.
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PLAYER, CURRENT/LATEST TEAM    WINS    LOSSES    TIES

Georges Laraque Canadiens      32      5         6

Derek Boogaard Wild            35      11        4

D.J. King Blues                17      2         4

Donald Brashear Rangers        31      15        7

Brian McGrattan Flames         25      18        6

Wade Belak Predators           20      12        9

Colton Orr Maple Leafs         38      25        10

Raitis Ivanans Kings           25      13        10

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Re: DJ King the 3rd best fighter in the league?

Postby DaDitka » Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:43 pm

Two losses...underachiever....Cam did that in the last game.
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Re: DJ King the 3rd best fighter in the league?

Postby Winning Unlimited » Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:05 pm

DJ is technically second since Laraque isn't in the league anymore..
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Re: DJ King the 3rd best fighter in the league?

Postby Guppy » Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:08 pm

He is second since Laraque does not play for anybody
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Re: DJ King the 3rd best fighter in the league?

Postby abc789987 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:12 pm

How do I view the rankings on the hockeyfights webpage? I can't seem to figure out how.
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Re: DJ King the 3rd best fighter in the league?

Postby SteveO » Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:12 pm

I know the Canadiens said they weren't going to play him anymore, did they outright release him?
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Re: DJ King the 3rd best fighter in the league?

Postby Guppy » Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:26 pm

Prngr44 wrote:I know the Canadiens said they weren't going to play him anymore, did they outright release him?

Dismissed by the Montreal Canadiens.
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Re: DJ King the 3rd best fighter in the league?

Postby goon attack » Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:11 pm

Git eberybody on that list leeeeri!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: DJ King the 3rd best fighter in the league?

Postby philco_3 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:14 pm

Best thread ever!!! :plusplus: Can't wait til DJ returns...then breaks his hand on someone else head.
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Re: DJ King the 3rd best fighter in the league?

Postby ohio BLUES » Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:37 pm

When healthy, DJ's a beast. I love that pic of him fighting where he looks like he wants to eat his opponent's children...
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Re: DJ King the 3rd best fighter in the league?

Postby section319 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:47 pm

DaDitka wrote:Two losses...underachiever....Cam did that in the last game.



At least Cam has been there to fight..




Can you just give it up already? You hate Cam we get it.


But really, he is a bad ass.. Get over it.
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Re: DJ King the 3rd best fighter in the league?

Postby philco_3 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:51 pm

section319 wrote:
DaDitka wrote:Two losses...underachiever....Cam did that in the last game.



At least Cam has been there to fight..




Can you just give it up already? You hate Cam we get it.


But really, he is a bad ass.. Get over it.


King is bad ass, we all know that.
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Re: DJ King the 3rd best fighter in the league?

Postby section319 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:54 pm

I never said he wasn't, but I feel the need to stick up for Cam.
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Re: DJ King the 3rd best fighter in the league?

Postby thedoc » Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:14 pm

I don't see how you can list guys on the best of list when they aren't even playing in the NHL right now. Just my opinion.
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Re: DJ King the 3rd best fighter in the league?

Postby cprice12 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:50 pm

I can buy King being 2nd/3rd best in the league...he's damn good.

It would be nice if he could score a half a dozen goals a season as well.
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Re: DJ King the 3rd best fighter in the league?

Postby philco_3 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:58 pm

cprice12 wrote:I can buy King being 2nd/3rd best in the league...he's damn good.

It would be nice if he could score a half a dozen goals a season as well.


Well if he would stay healthy he could produce more than bam bam cam.
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Re: DJ King the 3rd best fighter in the league?

Postby xbleed83bluex » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:16 am

I've never seen Reed Lowe lose a fight....
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Re: DJ King the 3rd best fighter in the league?

Postby goon attack » Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:33 am

xbleed83bluex wrote:I've never seen Reed Lowe lose a fight....


he was damn good. did he retire only because nobody wanted him or was he injured? Seems odd... he was one of the best fighters in the league during his time in the NHL.
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Re: DJ King the 3rd best fighter in the league?

Postby goon attack » Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:40 am

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