JWatt (formerly PMS) wrote:cprice12 wrote:fargoblues wrote:
And for those who swear up and down that the Blues have never made a FA splash by getting a player in their prime at top dollar, they did. His name was Brendan Shanahan. And the league took a major shit on them for doing it too (remember Scott Stevens, anyone?).
Actually, that's not what I've been saying at all.
I've said more than a few times that "THE BLUES HAVE NEVER SIGNED A UFA COMING FROM ANOTHER TEAM IN HIS PRIME."
Shanahan wasn't a UFA. He was restricted, which is why we lost Stevens...which was my whole point. Signing RFA's and trading for players costs you organizational depth. The best way to get over the hump without damaging the future, is by signing an elite UFA.
Just sayin'.
Well, first of all, until 2005, you could NEVER sign a UFA in his prime. Players didn't hit UFA until 31. By then they were over the hill and bound to be overpaid and not live up to their contract. Since then, can you honestly say that any top UFA in his prime (Hossa, Kovalchuk, Bouwmeester, Gaborik, Chara) would want to play for the Blues? Those were the only premier UFAs that became available in their prime. Why overspend for mediocrity?
31 isn't over the hill for a lot of elite players.
- Brett Hull scored 300 goals after he turned 31.
- When Chris Pronger was 31 he dominated and led Edmonton to the finals...and darn near won the cup singlehandedly.
Just sayin'...
And as far as we know, we never even offered contracts to those players you mentioned. My whole point is that you have to at least make an effort. Offer a fair contract and see what happens. If you don't even make an effort, isn't that the definition of not trying?
We desperately need an elite forward, it would have been nice to hear the Blues were at least interested in Kovy. Instead, we were told he wasn't the right player for us at this time. Which is a bunch of bull.
I'm not saying we should have signed him for 15 years at $120 million...it's not fair to demand your team make that extreme of a commitment. But if we would have offered him a 7 year deal for $56 million or so, I think that would have been fair and would have sent a nice message to the fans.
Were we interested in Hossa, Kovy, Bouwmeester, Gaborik, Chara?
Not as far as we know.
All I'm saying is, in general, maybe once every so often...make a serious effort to acquire a UFA when that UFA is the exact type of player we desperately need.
We've never gotten it done...ever.