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Getting rid of the shootout?

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Please make it so. The shootout is garbage!
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Just bring back the ties and get rid of the shootouts. Keep the 4 on 4 in OT.
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philco_3 wrote:Just bring back the ties and get rid of the shootouts. Keep the 4 on 4 in OT.
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The only thing I might do differently would be to extend OT to 10 minutes but I'd be more than fine to just go back to how it was pre-shootout.
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They'll never go back to ties, not with Bettman as commish. I think our best compromise would be to extend the 4 on 4 to 10 mins, like you guys have already said, and then go the the shootout. If we're going to have a shootout, extend it from 3 shooters to 5. Overtime of 4v4 for 5 minutes followed by 3 shooters feels like a cheap way to end a game that was deadlocked after 60 minutes. Most teams just coast through the 5 minute OT anyway, trying to hold their ground to get to the shootout. You can say that a 10 minute OT will cause them to coast longer, and that's possible, but it actually gives teams time to have scoring chances, set up their offense, etc. In terms of a compromise, I'd say that makes all sides at least okay with the set up.
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dmiles2186 wrote:They'll never go back to ties, not with Bettman as commish.
I've I got a sniper working on that... :wink:
dmiles2186 wrote:I think our best compromise would be to extend the 4 on 4 to 10 mins, like you guys have already said, and then go the the shootout. If we're going to have a shootout, extend it from 3 shooters to 5. Overtime of 4v4 for 5 minutes followed by 3 shooters feels like a cheap way to end a game that was deadlocked after 60 minutes. Most teams just coast through the 5 minute OT anyway, trying to hold their ground to get to the shootout. You can say that a 10 minute OT will cause them to coast longer, and that's possible, but it actually gives teams time to have scoring chances, set up their offense, etc. In terms of a compromise, I'd say that makes all sides at least okay with the set up.
Thats a better idea than the 3 on 3 then 2 on 2 crap.
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You guys act like shootouts are some new invention. Growing up playing the game, shootouts were a regular part of hockey. Tournaments and playoff games went to shootouts all of the time. I realize the reason was because there was typically someone else coming onto the ice after us, so we couldn't play multiple periods of sudden death. Shootouts were always fun to play in, especially for me as a goalie. Not to mention how great shootouts are to watch. I can remember in high school hockey going into a shootout and the locker rooms of the teams coming on after us would empty to watch. The 1998 Olympic gold medal game was one of the greatest hockey games I have ever watched. Staying up until 4 am to watch Hasek vs. Roy for the gold medal is something I'll never forget. Now I'll agree hands down that shootouts do not belong in playoff hockey at the NHL level. No one wants to see the Stanley Cup Playoffs decided by a shootout. At the same time I hate the idea of a tie at the professional level. In a regular season game, play 5 or 10 minutes of 5 on 5. 4 on 4 is for roller hockey. Then hold the shootout to decide the winner and move on. My only problem is seeing the OTL column in the standings. Why are we the only professional sport that gives points to teams that lost? If you win, you should get 2 points. If you lose, you get 0 points. Shootouts are a part of hockey, therefore they should have a place at the NHL level too.
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This isn't about getting rid of the shootout. The shootout is here to stay. They are considering adding a 3 on 3, and even a 2 on 2, to reduce the likelihood of a shootout.
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Well if they keep the shoot out they need to redo the point system. Regulation win 3 pts, OT win 2 pts, Shoot out win 1 pt, losing no points. Make OT 10 minutes (4 on 4), 5 on 5 shoot out. Then at the end of the game a Gary Bettman life size doll is dropped from the rafters and the winning team sets him ablaze.
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Winning Unlimited wrote:This isn't about getting rid of the shootout. The shootout is here to stay. They are considering adding a 3 on 3, and even a 2 on 2, to reduce the likelihood of a shootout.
Yeah that's what they said on "NHL on the Fly"....well now a penalty shot doesn't seem that big of a deal now because we see the shootout every 15 games and 3 shooters is not enough 5 would be better and 2 on 2 just doesn't seem right.
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If they insist on something resembling a shootout, have it 2 skaters against a defenseman and a goalie. Bring back some of the "it's a team game" element. The shootout is individual crap in a team sport.
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First off: :deadhorse:

Secondly: Did not realize 15% of games were being decided by a shootout- that's a bit extreme. I would agree with another five minute OT of 3 on 3, that would be my vote.
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WaukeeBlues wrote:First off: :deadhorse:

Secondly: Did not realize 15% of games were being decided by a shootout- that's a bit extreme. I would agree with another five minute OT of 3 on 3, that would be my vote.

3 on 3??????

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Teh Shootout is teh best thing evar to happen to teh hookies!
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F Keenan wrote:
WaukeeBlues wrote:First off: :deadhorse:

Secondly: Did not realize 15% of games were being decided by a shootout- that's a bit extreme. I would agree with another five minute OT of 3 on 3, that would be my vote.

3 on 3??????

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Personally, I like the shootout. It's the things surrounding the shootout that rub me the wrong way.

- 4 on 4
- A point for an OTL

No ties. Ties suck. Always have. I don't want to pay $75 to go to a game, invest a few hours to have nothing decided.
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I say keep it the way it is, except the point distribution. Like the first round of the Olympics. 3 points total. 3 points for regulation win. 2 points for ot or shootout win. 1 point for ot or shootout loss.
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keep everything the same except add 5 mins to the overtime like you guys have said.
If 10 minutes of 4 on 4 doesnt = a goal. then the teams suck balls, or the goalies played insane.

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the shootouts are lame as fukk... like extra gay group sex gay.
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goon attack wrote:the shootouts are lame as fukk... like extra gay group sex gay.
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ohio BLUES wrote:
goon attack wrote:the shootouts are lame as fukk... like extra gay group sex gay.
And if there's anyone here who knows the ins and outs of extra gay group gay sex, it's me.
We know, fairy.
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