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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby STLADOGG » Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:20 pm

Stubborn greedy pricks.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby kodos » Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:36 pm

That article says nothing. Their speculation can be summed up as...

"What if he doesn't want to come back! OMG!"

I thought it would be about some weird contractual thing or something, but it's all just a bunch of nothing.

If he wanted to stay in Russia, he would have stayed there. I'm not worried.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby sseagle » Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:07 pm

NHL Net has playoffs on... idk what you clowns are talking about, and where is everyone in this shit town?
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby STLADOGG » Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:24 pm

sseagle wrote:NHL Net has playoffs on... idk what you clowns are talking about, and where is everyone in this shit town?

You didn't hear? The FPA(Forum Posters Association) are currently in a lockout.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby Portland Blues » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:27 pm

sseagle wrote:NHL Net has playoffs on... idk what you clowns are talking about, and where is everyone in this shit town?


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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby sseagle » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:42 pm

STLADOGG wrote:
sseagle wrote:NHL Net has playoffs on... idk what you clowns are talking about, and where is everyone in this shit town?

You didn't hear? The FPA(Forum Posters Association) are currently in a lockout.


Glad I didn't join that (Frank) union... assholes
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby philco_3 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:46 pm

As long as the NHL is in a lockout and screwing me over the privilege to watch my team, I will not watch their shit network.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby glen a richter » Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:00 am

Hypothetically let's suppose the lockout ends next week, how many players that headed off to Europe would be stuck there the whole season?
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby philco_3 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:57 am

As I understood a majority of them were doing it on a weekly contract basis just in case it would start back up.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby sseagle » Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:23 am

The lockout makes for great reading on the shitter :(
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby philco_3 » Tue Oct 09, 2012 7:40 pm

Surprisingly enough I'm not missing hockey right now...but when Christmas comes I will be.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby sseagle » Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:07 pm

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[b]NHL, NHLPA CONTINUE CBA TALKS TODAY IN NEW YORK[/b]

The NHL Players' Association returned for an afternoon session of collective bargaining talks with the NHL at the league's offices in New York. Talks have now concluded for the day.

Steve Fehr, Mathieu Schneider and a handful of players were on hand for the second session. NHLPA head Donald Fehr was not present.

Earlier in the day, Donald and Steve Fehr met with commissioner Gary Bettman and deputy commissioner Bill Daly in a smaller group meeting.

Donald Fehr wouldn't give the media any details about the morning session.

The lockout is in its fourth week with the two sides still entrenched in their positions on the fundamental issue of how to split up league revenue.

The players have insisted that they continue to earn the US$1.871 billion they took home collectively last season while the owners are looking for an immediate reduction in salaries.

The work stoppage has already forced the NHL to cancel the first two weeks of the regular season, a move that wiped 82 games off the schedule and pushed a potential opening night back to Oct. 25.

It's the third time in 18 years a lockout has forced the cancellation of NHL games.

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[b]NHL, union resume talks[/b]
Updated: October 10, 2012, 8:58 PM ET
By Katie Strang | ESPNNewYork.com

After five hours of talks in two sessions Wednesday, NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly said the league has received indication that the NHL Players' Association is putting together a proposal, and the NHL is urging the union to make it.

Daly said a "variety of sources" both privately and publicly tipped off the league that the union was working toward putting forth a new offer. The two sides have not swapped proposals in more than three weeks.

"We understand you're working on a proposal. Make it to us," Daly said of the league's message to the union during Wednesday's negotiations. "Let's not stand on formalities. If you a have a proposal, make it."

The league has been imploring the union to submit something new for weeks and hopes that the possibility might jump-start a negotiation process that has become stagnant.

The union also is encouraging the league to make moves of its own, multiple sources told ESPNNewYork.com. Even if the league's next proposal doesn't include significant movement on the economic issues, it is believed the union would like to see some concessions made in other areas, such as the contracting issues.

Despite a small, private session between Daly, commissioner Gary Bettman and the union's top two -- Donald and Steve Fehr -- prior to Wednesday afternoon's larger group session, Daly said little progress was made.

"Overall today, we didn't really move the ball forward that much," he said.

Daly said the top four did not discuss the core economic issues that continue to divide the two sides, although Fehr said the meeting did touch on the key financial concepts. Fehr did not go into detail about what exactly was covered, although no substantive numbers have been exchanged since the days leading up to the lockout.

In the larger group session that lasted more than four hours, the two sides covered a range of health and safety issues, as well as miscellaneous legal issues.

During that meeting, a decision was handed down by the Alberta Labour Relations Board rejecting the union's claim that a lockout was illegal under Canadian provincial law.

Fehr said he was "disappointed" with the outcome and found it "odd" that the ALBLRB chose not to get involved on the decision.

"We think that's unfortunate. We think they should've gotten involved," Fehr said. "Obviously, it's a win for the league and they get to continue the lockout they want so badly without any interference from the Alberta labour board."

Daly expressed his frustration that the union made the application at all and said he felt the action impeded the potential progress of labor discussions.

"It was really a distraction to the process. It wasn't good faith bargaining," Daly said.

Although labor talks have seemed to yield little progress, the rhetoric from both sides seems to becoming increasingly incendiary.

In a recent interview, NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr said the union would not rule out going after the salary cap should the lockout endure, a comment that did not sit well with the league.

"None of those comments were a surprise to me," Daly said. "If that's the direction they choose to go in, that's up to them. I don't make decisions for them, obviously. They've suggested they want to get the players on the ice soon. I can pretty much assure you if they make that proposal, it won't get the players back on the ice soon."

More than three weeks into the lockout, the league has canceled the entire pre-season schedule and all games through Oct. 24. When asked Wednesday about the resulting economic effect, Daly said the lost games will cost the league upward of $240-250 million.

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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby ViPeRx007 » Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:30 pm

No proposals in more than 3 weeks? :facepalm:

Is there something I'm really not understanding about the process of these negotiations? The delays and gaps between meetings and proposals seems incredibly ridiculous.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby Portland Blues » Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:41 pm

ViPeRx007 wrote:No proposals in more than 3 weeks? :facepalm:

Is there something I'm really not understanding about the process of these negotiations? The delays and gaps between meetings and proposals seems incredibly ridiculous.


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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby gaijin » Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:19 am

ViPeRx007 wrote:No proposals in more than 3 weeks? :facepalm:

Is there something I'm really not understanding about the process of these negotiations? The delays and gaps between meetings and proposals seems incredibly ridiculous.


Negotiating tactic.

Not quite as effective when both sides think time is on their side and are unwilling to compromise.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby WaukeeBlues » Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:10 pm

On a side note, the KHL is on ESPN2 right now. The KHL.

A half month into the lockout and a russian league is doing something way smarter than the NHL ever did. I'm sickened how pitifully dysfunctional the NHL is. Pathetic.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby not_a_wings_fan » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:37 am

Interesting article on CBA models and comparisons between leagues and competitive balance. Kind technical, kinda long, but I found it to provide an interesting slant on what's going on (or not going on, depending on your point of view) with the current (lack) of CBA negotiations.

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Chart on cost per win based on the payroll over the last seven years and the number of wins.

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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby abc789987 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:31 am

I'm reading tweets Owners made new offer to NHL PA. 50/50 HRR split... Season could start in November....
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby sseagle » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:31 am

NHL OFFERS 50/50 SPLIT ON HRR IN PROPOSAL FOR NHLPA
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The NHL put a new offer on the bargaining table for the NHL Players' Association on Tuesday morning, which includes a 50/50 split of hockey-related revenue across the board and contingent on an 82-game season beginning Nov. 2.

"We hope we've given our best shot," NHL commissioner Gary Bettman told reporters on Tuesday afternoon.

Bettman added that the offer calls for no salary rollback and the revised schedule - if implemented - would see every team play an extra game every five weeks.

NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr said the offer - which is at least six years in length - is an "excellent start" and he would go over it with his membership in a 5pm et conference call.

Negotiations resumed Tuesday in Toronto in the NHL's labour dispute with the NHL Players Association - the first in five days following two days of meetings in New York last week. Key negotiators Bettman, Bill Daly and Donald and Steve Fehr were in attendance as both sides looked to start bridging the gap on core economic issues.

Both sides have communicated regularly since the lockout began on Sept. 15, but with little to no progress so far as the meetings have focused on non-core economic discussions.

Neither side had formally tabled an offer since Sept. 12.

Click on to TSN.ca for more details as they follow.


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