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Which article were you referring to?
cprice12 wrote:I don't get those who don't like this trade for the Blues. Anything short of describing this trade as a Home Run, is selling it short.
This is a fantastic trade...no matter what the guys at stlouisgametime.com are saying.
The only thing Halak had going for him over Miller was that he was younger.
Miller is just flat out better than Halak in pretty much every aspect of the game.
Some like to point out that Halak and Miller's numbers were very similar, but just comparing numbers is a horrible way to compare two goalies on teams at opposite ends of the standings. Miller was on a God-awful team. Halak was on a serious cup contender. You can't compare save% or GAA. You have to look at their history and watch how they play. If you watch Miller and Halak play, and tell me that they are about the same, you are a liar.
Army was being nice by saying Miller was only 5% better than Halak. What's he going to say to the press? That Halak sucks? He's going to be polite about it. Why piss off and publicly rip Halak?
And let's talk about stick handling... Halak was pretty bad at handling the puck. Miller is pretty darn good at it. It always really bothered me how bad Halak was with the puck...and not just with his stick, he had a poor glove hand as well.
Halak was good. Hell, very good at times...I wanted to like him so bad. But I was never 100% confident in him. He always made me nervous because he could be inconsistent...more so than most top goalies.
And don't get me started on Halak's inability to stay healthy. He hasn't been here when we needed him. We got him for the playoffs, and he has played in only one playoff game for us because of injuries. He's hurt when we need him most, so what good is he? Miller has a history of staying healthy.
I liked Halak...but the longer we had him, the less confident I was in him and the more I felt like he wasn't "the guy" for us.
Last year, when I heard we had a deal worked out where it was Halak for Miller, until Halak got hurt (shocker), and the deal was off. I had wished that deal had gone through.
Then, this year, when rumors were being tossed around earlier in the season, I really wanted that deal to go down...and I'm glad it did.
I'm happy Stewart is gone. The guy pissed me off something fierce. He would be pretty much invisible game after game after game...doing very little. Then he would have a good couple games, then disappear for another 10 games. He was frustrating to watch. He had a truckload of talent, but seemed lazy and disinterested on the ice at times. I have never liked Ott, because he's an ass of a player...but I'm sure I'll love having him playing for us and pissing off the other team for a change. One thing is for sure, Ott will have much more of an impact on this team than Stewart did this year.
People are upset about the 1st round pick and the possibility of a 2nd 1st rounder if we make the finals or re-sign Miller. Yeah, it kind of sucks to give up two 1st rounders, but if this move does indeed get us a cup this year, I don't think people will give a rat's ass about two first rounders going to Buffalo. This is probably the best chance the Blues have ever had at winning a cup...so they are going for it and not wasting the opportunity. Back in the early 00's, we had a great team but we lacked "the guy" in net...and Pleau was ridiculed and ripped for not being able to acquire Hasek, Burke or any other top goalies at the time who were supposedly "gettable" for that final piece of the puzzle. And we didn't get to the finals. Now we do make the move, and some still aren't happy.
The team is better now than they were before the trade. I don't know how anyone could dispute that. That's all you can ask for in a trade.
What else? Well, I'd like to see them try to get a scoring forward before the deadline. That might be the only thing left that we need...and it isn't a serious need, it's more like a "that would be nice" kind of deal because you can never have enough offense in the playoffs. But if they are done dealing, I'm more excited about the team now, than I have been in a long time.
flyingnote38 wrote:not_a_wings_fan wrote:
Which article were you referring to?
http://www.stlouisgametime.com/2014/2/2 ... -ott-trade
this was the pre trade one.
there are several post trade tepid responses as well. I could google "st louis gametime ott" and posts links or......
cardsfan04 wrote:I don't know, that's a pretty weak argument against him IMO. He basically made 2 arguments against bringing him in here:
1. He didn't win over Blues fans as a member of the Stars. Who cares? How many opposing players have won over our hearts?
2. His FO% is 52.1% which would put him behind Sobotka's insanely good 60.9%. There's more to playing center than winning faceoffs. He's an upgrade over Stewart which makes it worthwhile IMO.
Doohickie wrote:As for this trade, I think it serves both teams. The Sabres aren't going anywhere and chances are Miller would have signed elsewhere to try to win a Cup rather than go through the ground up rebuild in Buffalo. Murray is not sentimental; if a player isn't likely to sign, Murray cashes him in for assets. With goalies you have a limited market so the Sabres knew they weren't going to get a ton of return. Still, the fans in Buffalo feel they "won" the trade, but I can see why St. Louis likes it too.
dmiles2186 wrote:You've probably seen throughout this thread that Stewart is one of the more enigmatic players you will see. He can hit, he can score, but he takes nights off. Granted, he may not be in Buffalo very long. But you always hope a guy like that, with tons of talent, could just put the heart and the 'get it done' attitude with it. Stew could be a force in this league as a power forward. I hope he can be that guy for you guys, and if not, hopefully you can cash him in for a good haul in return to help aid your rebuild.
Doohickie wrote:You know, for Friday's game, the Sabres AHL team was in Chicago and the trade was made less than an hour before game time. To get the league required backup goalie, the Sabres went to one of their IT guys on the business side of the house (a former high school goalie and college goalie video coach while he was a student). They signed him to a zero cost amateur tryout contract, gave him a uniform and put him on the bench. Lucky for him he plays in a beer league and had his pads with him at work that day. If the Sabres trade Halak, the IT guy might get another stint on the bench.
STLADOGG wrote:Doohickie wrote:You know, for Friday's game, the Sabres AHL team was in Chicago and the trade was made less than an hour before game time. To get the league required backup goalie, the Sabres went to one of their IT guys on the business side of the house (a former high school goalie and college goalie video coach while he was a student). They signed him to a zero cost amateur tryout contract, gave him a uniform and put him on the bench. Lucky for him he plays in a beer league and had his pads with him at work that day. If the Sabres trade Halak, the IT guy might get another stint on the bench.
The Blues were in Anaheim when the trade was made so they used someone from the Anaheim's arena crew to be the backup for the Blues. Thank God Enroth or Elliott didn't get injured.
not_a_wings_fan wrote:Okay, I saw that article but I wouldn't describe it as "choice words" like you did, which is why I was wondering what I missed.
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