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Re: 2014 Free Agent Frenzy Thread

Postby APOD » Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:43 pm

From what I understand Chicago and Colorado are our only serious competitors for Stastny.....NYR too but there was talk that he would not go there.

Its getting close too that time when everything we have been talking about either makes us look smart and educated or really really dumb :grin:
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Re: 2014 Free Agent Frenzy Thread

Postby cprice12 » Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:55 pm

APOD wrote:From what I understand Chicago and Colorado are our only serious competitors for Stastny.....NYR too but there was talk that he would not go there.

Its getting close too that time when everything we have been talking about either makes us look smart and educated or really really dumb :grin:

It makes sense for Chicago to be interested, if only to drive the price up for us.
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Re: 2014 Free Agent Frenzy Thread

Postby APOD » Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:26 pm

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APOD wrote:From what I understand Chicago and Colorado are our only serious competitors for Stastny.....NYR too but there was talk that he would not go there.

Its getting close too that time when everything we have been talking about either makes us look smart and educated or really really dumb :grin:


It makes sense for Chicago to be interested, if only to drive the price up for us.


That could be there plan lol but they are looking for a another center as well. There was talk that we already offered more than the avs did so I'm guessing unless he really wants to be COL or the hawks pay a huge price he could very well be ours too.

I was really doubting we could get both but there may be a little hope for us.
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Re: 2014 Free Agent Frenzy Thread

Postby ViPeRx007 » Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:34 pm

Stastny + Spezza. DO IT LEERY!
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Re: 2014 Free Agent Frenzy Thread

Postby dmiles2186 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:47 am

Tampa made some trades yesterday, cleared $5.7M is cap space. They're making a run at somebody.
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Re: 2014 Free Agent Frenzy Thread

Postby glen a richter » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:09 am

Wouldn't Tampa have had to clear space to make room for Callahan's new contract?
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Re: 2014 Free Agent Frenzy Thread

Postby cprice12 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:15 am

I fully expect the Blues to come away with either Stastny or Spezza.

Maybe that's being optimistic...but whatever. Army made it clear changes would be made and he stressed that the offense needed attention...and he isn't afraid to pull the trigger on a deal. So based on the number of teams dwindling that are interested in both Spezza and Stastny... it looks better for us.

And there is no way Murray keeps Spezza for next year. Well, I guess it's possible, but that would be a weird situation for Spezza and the Sens. I can't see him not being moved.
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Re: 2014 Free Agent Frenzy Thread

Postby glen a richter » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:21 am

We should know very early tomorrow. What with the pre-free agency discussion period, an answer could very well come at midnight.
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Re: 2014 Free Agent Frenzy Thread

Postby dmiles2186 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:28 am

glen a richter wrote:Wouldn't Tampa have had to clear space to make room for Callahan's new contract?


Good point. I didn't think of that. Although, I'm not familiar enough w/ their roster to know if that's all they made room for. I'd figure the Callahan for St. Louis deal cancelled each other out, so I was just assuming this is $5.7 more on top of that.
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Re: 2014 Free Agent Frenzy Thread

Postby ViPeRx007 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:46 am

LET'S GO BLUES!
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Re: 2014 Free Agent Frenzy Thread

Postby ViPeRx007 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:38 pm

Avs just traded PA Parenteau to the Canadians for Daniel Briere. I guess they needed some veteran presence and are hoping Briere can regain his scoring form of a few seasons ago.

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Not really sure what this means on the Stastny front. Possibly nothing. But because I'm forever an optimistic Blues fan, I hope this means that CO isn't confident about Stastny resigning and they wanted to get some insurance in the middle. It could also be a salary move to resign him though, so who the heck knows.
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Re: 2014 Free Agent Frenzy Thread

Postby gaijin » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:45 pm

cprice12 wrote:I fully expect the Blues to come away with either Stastny or Spezza.

Maybe that's being optimistic...but whatever. Army made it clear changes would be made and he stressed that the offense needed attention...and he isn't afraid to pull the trigger on a deal. So based on the number of teams dwindling that are interested in both Spezza and Stastny... it looks better for us.

And there is no way Murray keeps Spezza for next year. Well, I guess it's possible, but that would be a weird situation for Spezza and the Sens. I can't see him not being moved.


Perhaps they are making their play for Stastny first, so that they can approach Ottawa from the perspective of "We're not in as dire need for offense as we were," and see if it drives the price of Spezza down.
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Re: 2014 Free Agent Frenzy Thread

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Re: 2014 Free Agent Frenzy Thread

Postby JesusNEVERexisted » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:27 pm

Did you guys hear on some Sirius NHL show said Murray in Ottawa asked for Schwartz in return for Spezza? He is driving such a hard bargain. One the Blues can't meet!
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Re: 2014 Free Agent Frenzy Thread

Postby flyingnote38 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:11 pm

gaijin wrote:
cprice12 wrote:I fully expect the Blues to come away with either Stastny or Spezza.

Maybe that's being optimistic...but whatever. Army made it clear changes would be made and he stressed that the offense needed attention...and he isn't afraid to pull the trigger on a deal. So based on the number of teams dwindling that are interested in both Spezza and Stastny... it looks better for us.

And there is no way Murray keeps Spezza for next year. Well, I guess it's possible, but that would be a weird situation for Spezza and the Sens. I can't see him not being moved.


Perhaps they are making their play for Stastny first, so that they can approach Ottawa from the perspective of "We're not in as dire need for offense as we were," and see if it drives the price of Spezza down.


The Blues benefit from the early negotiation period. Armstrong probably has a pretty good idea on Stastny's intentions. If we think Stastny is signing elsewhere, now would be the time to deal for Spezza. So either Murray is an idiot and doesn't realize he's over the barrel in the Spezza standoff or Armie has Stastny pencilled into our lineup already.
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Re: 2014 Free Agent Frenzy Thread

Postby flyingnote38 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:18 pm

dmiles2186 wrote:
glen a richter wrote:Wouldn't Tampa have had to clear space to make room for Callahan's new contract?


Good point. I didn't think of that. Although, I'm not familiar enough w/ their roster to know if that's all they made room for. I'd figure the Callahan for St. Louis deal cancelled each other out, so I was just assuming this is $5.7 more on top of that.


Tampa has $9.5 Mill in cap space post dumps, but that's with "9" forwards under contract (counting Drouin) and 2 RFAs left to sign. They might be able to make a run at one top UFA, but they will be really squeaking under the cap to go as high as $6 M.
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Re: 2014 Free Agent Frenzy Thread

Postby WaukeeBlues » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:31 pm

JesusNEVERexisted wrote:Did you guys hear on some Sirius NHL show said Murray in Ottawa asked for Schwartz in return for Spezza? He is driving such a hard bargain. One the Blues can't meet!


He can ask whatever he wants. Doesn't mean he's going to get it. With Anaheim out of the picture, the value of Spezza went down, I don't how it could NOT have. The only way it goes back up is if we don't get Stastny or any other option that Army feels added "enough."

There's no way you can have Spezza come back to Ottawa for training camp this fall. There's just no way. Murray has got to move him and I think he knows that. I think it's a blinking contest in a lot of ways.
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Re: 2014 Free Agent Frenzy Thread

Postby JCShutout » Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:56 pm

glen a richter wrote:We should know very early tomorrow. What with the pre-free agency discussion period, an answer could very well come at midnight.


Agreed. I expect stastny's agent will get final offers, then make some calls to see if teams will go just a bit higher. I expect a deal within a few hours of the 11am start time.
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Re: 2014 Free Agent Frenzy Thread

Postby APOD » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:05 pm

:cup:

Notice who is missing

FORWARDS
Jaden Schwartz ($2.000m) / Paul Stastny ($7.500m) / Vladimir Tarasenko ($0.900m)
Alexander Steen ($5.800m) / Jason Spezza ($5.950m— OTT Retains 15.00% of 7m) / David Backes ($4.500m)
Dmitrij Jaskin ($0.773m) / Vladimir Sobotka ($2.000m) / T.J. Oshie ($4.175m)
Ryan Reaves ($1.125m) / Joakim Lindstrom ($0.700m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.100m)
Chris Porter ($0.675m) / Ty Rattie ($0.773m)
DEFENSEMEN
Alex Pietrangelo ($6.500m) / Jay Bouwmeester ($5.400m)
Kevin Shattenkirk ($4.250m) / Carl Gunnarsson ($2.950m)
Barret Jackman ($3.167m) / Jordan Leopold ($2.250m)
Ian Cole ($0.825m) /
GOALTENDERS
Brian Elliott ($2.500m)
Jake Allen ($0.800m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$700,000
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(estimations for 2014-15)
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