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Tarasenko to Rangers

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:28 pm
by theohall
Not official yet, but too many sources are saying it's done.

Tarasenko and Mikkola for Blais, Hunter Skinner, a 1st and a 4th.

Blues retaining half of Tarasenko's salary.

Re: Tarasenko to Rangers

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:39 pm
by glen a richter
On one hand better than losing him for nothing. On the other, one of my ranger fan friends is shocked at how little they had to give up for him and Mikkola.

Re: Tarasenko to Rangers

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:45 pm
by flyingnote38
I'm underwhelmed

I hope the conditional aspect of the first round pick is merely which one we get and not that we might not get one

was watching the rangers/canucks the other night and thought about how Blais had done nothing since the trade to the rags and so we get him back (I assume for cap reasons)

Re: Tarasenko to Rangers

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 2:45 pm
by theohall
Looks like I need to go to a Jacksonville Icemen game. Skinner is currently playing for them. 6'2 right shot defenseman.

Re: Tarasenko to Rangers

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:40 pm
by goon attack
We got bent over on this one. Holy shit, what a joke. :facepalm:

Who on earth is going to score now? :grin:

Re: Tarasenko to Rangers

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:45 pm
by glen a richter
I'm very underwhelmed though I guess if we can stockpile 1st round picks maybe package them to move up or something.

The return largely did suck but then again it's better than the zero in return would have been this offseason. I predict Hunter Skinner never cracks the NHL roster. Getting Blais may be a pre-cursor to getting rid of Barbashev.

Re: Tarasenko to Rangers

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 4:20 pm
by theohall
While this seems underwhelming, how many 1st round picks have moved the past 2 seasons for rentals? Both Vlad and Mikkola are pending UFAs.

Re: Tarasenko to Rangers

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 5:24 pm
by glen a richter
If this was the return for Tarasenko I have to assume that the return for O'Reilly will be significantly less.

Re: Tarasenko to Rangers

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:53 pm
by theohall
Or similar.

Have to remember - Rentals.... it's not like it used to be with teams and cap restrictions these days.

It's been over 2 years of underwhelming deals at or around the trade deadline with very few 1st round picks moved... since teams know that 1st round pick will be with them for a longer term for lesser cost than the UFA they might sign.

In 20-21 - Four 1st round picks were involved in trade deadline deals. The only weird one being the Lightning, Red Wings and BlueJackets, with the Lightning giving up two firsts for David Savard and Lashoff to clear cap space via LTIR. The others were all multi-player deals with a 1st included.

Last season - Five 1st round picks were moved. 2 of them involved the Lightning getting the Hawks to eat Lightning cap space. One involved Giroux. One involved Chiarot. And the other involved Hampus Lindholm who I'm betting the Bruins are glad they surrendered the 1st to acquire.

So over the prior 2 seasons - 9 1st round picks have moved near the trade deadline and 5 of them were 2 years ago. Getting a 1st is a good thing for a rental - even if it's either of the Rangers picks (the protected top 10 pick from Dallas or the Rangers pick - no idea what the condition is, but it's one of those two).

And if you take out the Lightning surrendering picks for cap space - that's 4 first round picks removed - only 5 1st round picks for players are relevant.

The days of getting a huge haul for a UFA rental are over.

Re: Tarasenko to Rangers

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:56 pm
by Portland Blues
Someone has to ask...

How will the Tank area be remembered?

:lol: :lol:

Re: Tarasenko to Rangers

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:45 am
by glen a richter
I think for me the highlight of this trade was listening to the radio this morning and Boomer trying to teach Al Dukes how to say Niko Mikkola. For a guy who works on sports radio, he has a tendency to butcher names either with gross mispronounciations or just calling them by the wrong first name because he hasn't actively followed sports since the 80's.

Re: Tarasenko to Rangers

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:17 am
by theohall
The conditional 4th rd pick becomes a 3rd if the Rangers make the playoffs, which is very likely.

Re: Tarasenko to Rangers

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:18 am
by gaijin
Trades are a part of sports, and the writing was on the wall with how this season has gone, but it's still sad to see him put on a different team's jersey. I would absolutely be open to him re-signing in the offseason.

Re: Tarasenko to Rangers

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:18 am
by gaijin
Rangers play tonight. Looks like Tank will be in the lineup.

Re: Tarasenko to Rangers

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:43 am
by glen a richter
I knew he'd be traded, I suspected it would be to a NY team and after the Islanders got Horvat I knew the Rangers would counter with something but still... the sight of Vlad in Ranger blue makes me want to vomit. Couldn't trade him to LA or something?

Re: Tarasenko to Rangers

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:47 pm
by Kerfuffle
Hi guys - been awhile since I posted. Surprised to see Tank leaving St Louis and trying to get more perspective on this. Yes he was injured for 2 seasons but last year his numbers were excellent and his goal totals back to normal. Why was there a push to move him? I know he's up for a new deal and is that the reason that he wants too much? He's still young and has another 5 years or so years left in the league. He even said no deal was offered to him to stay in St Louis - why?

Re: Tarasenko to Rangers

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:53 pm
by gaijin
Good to see you Kerfuffle.

In the past two seasons, Tarasenko has expressed displeasure at how he had been utilized by team management. O'Reilly was awarded the C instead of him when Pietrangelo left, and he (Tarasenko) was upset with how the team doctors handled his multiple surgeries, and he felt marginalized. He flat-out requested a trade in the offseason. Armstrong couldn't find an adequate trade partner, so he remained in St. Louis.

To Tarasenko's credit, he has been one of the hardest workers on the team this season, and has seen flashes of his former self on occasion. Unfortunately, the Blues will not make the playoffs this year, and it is Tarasenko's final year of his contract, so he was traded to get some kind of return before he walks away in the offseason.

Re: Tarasenko to Rangers

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:11 am
by theohall
There was one other mention from JR in the 21-22 season that someone within the organization was critical of Tarasenko's play after the 2 botched surgeries. No idea who, but that was the initial impetus for Tarasenko demanding a trade before the 21-22 season. To Tarasenko's credit, after the 3rd surgery in which he picked the doctor and that doc did everything that should've been done during the 1st two surgeries, Tank was a consummate professional and played the way he always had prior to his injury. It's a shame some jackwad in the Blues org had to be a prick.

Re: Tarasenko to Rangers

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:45 am
by gaijin
Guess who scored the Rangers' first goal on Friday. Good way to introduce yourself to the new fan base.

Re: Tarasenko to Rangers

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:08 am
by flyingnote38
Portland Blues wrote:
Thu Feb 09, 2023 9:56 pm
Someone has to ask...

How will the Tank area be remembered?

:lol: :lol:
Fondly?
Blues' 5th all time in goals and points
9th in assists
3rd in gwg
and his name is on the cup as a Blue

definitely would be on the all time Blues draftee team (captained by "the hall of famer Berne Federko")

any ill will that exists between tank and the blues (if still existing) seems pretty clearly the Blues' fault