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Blues went outside the box a bit hiring Mike Weber as an assistant to handle the defense. Seems like a good hire reading about how he's handled players as an assistant in juniors from 2018-20 and the AHL from 2020-2022. A couple of the defenseman he coached mentioned his ability to coach players to their strengths while getting them to play the way he believes they should.
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theohall wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:24 am
Blues went outside the box a bit hiring Mike Weber as an assistant to handle the defense. Seems like a good hire reading about how he's handled players as an assistant in juniors from 2018-20 and the AHL from 2020-2022. A couple of the defenseman he coached mentioned his ability to coach players to their strengths while getting them to play the way he believes they should.
JR had a good article on him on The Athletic. Seems like it was only a matter of time before he got an NHL gig. Sounds promising, I like it :grin: :thumbsup:
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This will require some magic on Army’s part but I’d love to see him use the later first rounders to get someone to bite on a couple of the overpriced defensemen… here’s looking at you Krug and Parayko, and then sign UFA Scott Mayfield.
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Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:29 pm
This will require some magic on Army’s part but I’d love to see him use the later first rounders to get someone to bite on a couple of the overpriced defensemen… here’s looking at you Krug and Parayko, and then sign UFA Scott Mayfield.
this could be an interesting offseason with many teams looking to blow things up (Winnipeg the most obvious example)
army should be creative in using his assets
no one is likely to take Krug without a diabetes inducing sweetener but Parayko is apparently garnering some interest

unfortunately the hawks are in a sickeningly good position for their rebuild
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If anyone is interested in The Athletic, there is currently a summer sale - 1$/month for 12 months. Completely worth it.

As to the Blues, I was thinking the same about Mayfield. He's due to get paid, but would be an excellent fit for the Blues and their new assistant coach who values the style of play Mayfield would provide.

Not surprised Parayko is in the rumor mill. Wouldn't be surprised at all if that's from Armstrong trying to gauge what kind of interest is out there given Parako's current contract and the down-turn in his play.
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I’ve said it before… in a far less physical game sure-fire hall of famer Don Mattingly’s career was derailed by a back injury. Those are devastating and it’s hard for me to imagine that isn’t what’s going on with Parayko. Best for both sides to part ways and I think he knows it and would waive the NTC. Buffalo would be a good match.
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From process of elimination it looks like Krug is holding up a trade with the Flyers. Hayes + Sanheim for Krug and a 1st.

I’d say shit trade anyway. Yes I want Krug gone and also yes I get that Perunovich is his much cheaper replacement if made-of-glass can actually stay healthy but what’s up with Hayes’ contract and why is Sanheim needed at all? Unless that all precedes other deals… a lot of cogs have to turn in the right direction all at the same time. Could get ugly fast.
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From process of elimination it looks like Krug is holding up a trade with the Flyers. Hayes + Sanheim for Krug and a 1st.

I’d say shit trade anyway. Yes I want Krug gone and also yes I get that Perunovich is his much cheaper replacement if made-of-glass can actually stay healthy but what’s up with Hayes’ contract and why is Sanheim needed at all? Unless that all precedes other deals… a lot of cogs have to turn in the right direction all at the same time. Could get ugly fast.
how much salary retention would be the key, presumably with us throwing in a 1st and a prospect, I would think Philly would be retaining a sizable amount and we would not at all

otherwise it wouldn't seemingly make us better or improve our cap situation
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I saw rumors of phi retaining “a significant amount” of salary for hayes, in which case I think that side works. Blues need a 2-3 year retool and Hayes at $3.6-4m over 3 years is fine. (Iirc, DA talked about wanting another top9 guy and Hayes is probably a solid 5-7 kind of guy)

Sanheim seems like a solid 3/4, which we have a boatload of, and that deal is looong. I think that’s the bigger risk. If he doesn’t fit, oof that’s a long deal.

It’s definitely creative. Sanheim is 27 and at least tall, so likely at least 4-5 of the 7 years he should provide value. (If he fits, which is the big risk, as his ntc kicks in next month)
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The issue with Hayes... He is one of those players who plays hard when he feels like it. When he does, he's really good. When he isn't "on", pucks wind up in your own zone way to often.
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theohall wrote:
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The issue with Hayes... He is one of those players who plays hard when he feels like it. When he does, he's really good. When he isn't "on", pucks wind up in your own zone way to often.
Sounds like he’ll fit in with some of our guys. Lol/smh.

Jr confirms we get Hayes for a 2024 6th. (Phi retains 50% of his salary)

To me it seems clear that DA has a 2-3 year reload plan. Vrana, kapinen, Hayes. None signed past 3 years and all at reasonable/low $.

I like the move. Not wasting long term fa costs when the next two years are about developing and seeing what you have. Blues have the top9 forward DA talked about wanting (iirc)
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JCShutout wrote:
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Jr confirms we get Hayes for a 2024 6th. (Phi retains 50% of his salary)

To me it seems clear that DA has a 2-3 year reload plan. Vrana, kapinen, Hayes. None signed past 3 years and all at reasonable/low $.

I like the move. Not wasting long term fa costs when the next two years are about developing and seeing what you have. Blues have the top9 forward DA talked about wanting (iirc)
I like this better than the original deal.
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Way better than the original deal. Keep all three 1sts or package Krug and a 1st for someone’s 2nd?
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Hayes for a bag of pucks at 3.5? OK...

If the Blues can actually manage to play winning hockey, maybe he won't quit mid-season like he did to Torts.

That being said, good point about the soft rebuild with low value contracts on relatively short terms.

As an aside, if the Blues don't move Parayko, he might have a resurgence under Weber's coaching considering his talent as an assistant was for getting the most out of players based on their size and style of play.
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Blues did not make qualifying offers to Logan Brown or Dmitri Samorukov making them UFAs.

McGing, Tucker, and Toropchenko all received offers. Both McGing and Toropchenko have arbitration rights, so we'll see.
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Looks like Mayfield must really like the Islanders signing for 7 years at under 3.5M AAV. He likely could've gotten in at least the 5 range elsewhere.

Tucker has already signed. Blues only unsigned players are McGing and Toropchenko, both with arbitration rights, and the Blues having 2.36M in cap space available. McGing should wind up on a 2-way, so barring any further deals (which I still expect to happen), signing both won't be an issue.
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So right now the Blues are essentially rolling out the same team that finished last season plus Kevin Hayes and adjusting based on what prospects do in camp.

Thinking about Bolduc, during the playoffs in the Q, he essentially kept doing what Thomas did quite a bit of in his rookie season trying to force risky passes in transition, which is correctable. He gets that straightened out and he should be the Tarasenko replacement with his shooting ability. Dean should replace Barbashev, since Thomas, Hayes, Schenn, and MacEachern are the "natural" centers. And we know Schenn does just fine playing on a wing.

Should be interesting seeing how this group shapes up in camp, since I have no idea what the lines are going to be. Given how the World Championships went, I'd find a way to play Neighbours and Blais together - like Neighbours/Dean/Blais as a 3a/3b line, instead of having a true "4th line". Meanwhile, put Toropchenko on the LW with Schenn and Vrana as the other 3a/3b. Dean is capable of being the primary defensive center for d-zone faceoffs the Blues are currently missing.

Top 2:
Saad-Thomas-Kyrou
Buchnevich-Hayes-Kapanen (though this might have to change with 2 defensively challenged forwards on the same line.)

Roll their ice times based on how they play. They could wind up having 4 lines getting equal ice time at even strength, while the stars get their extra time on the power play. It would stop that "getting enough time to make youtube highlights" crap.

No, Bolduc isn't in this mix, yet, because I see the Blues having him fix his transitional issues in the A.
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first day of free agency was a better day for ex blues than for blues fans
o'Reilly, johnson, reaves, eller, mikkola, even pitlick got deals in a cash strapped environment
I would have preferred taking a 750k flyer on someone who might be better than that (wheeler eg) than Mmc who is what he is
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I’m ok with the depth signings. Army can call it a retool, a rebuild or whatever the hell he wants but the bottom line is that he’s rebuilding the forwards and will rebuild the defense separately if he can. Obviously he’s painted himself into a corner with the NTCs and I don’t really see the team doing a whole lot better next season unless Weber can pull a rabbit out of a hat with the blue liners. If Parayko or Krug can play better maybe Army can find more suitors and convince them next offseason to take one for the team then revamp the defense with kids and free agents sans the no trade clause BS this time.
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