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2007 BCS Bowls

Postby WaukeeBlues » Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:22 pm

BCS Championship
#1 Ohio State vs. #2 LSU

Orange Bowl
#8 Kansas vs. #3 Virginia Tech

Fiesta Bowl
#4 Oklahoma vs. #9 West Virginia

Sugar Bowl
#5 Georgia vs. #10 Hawaii

Rose Bowl
#7 USC vs. #13 Illinois

Cotton Bowl
#6 Missouri vs. Arkansas

My gripes are that Illinois somehow, god knows, got into the Rose Bowl and while I think Ohio State and LSU are, I would say, the best two teams in the country- that notion is hazy at best.

and oh yea...

Insight Bowl
Indiana vs. Oklahoma State

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Re: 2007 BCS Bowls

Postby richtedm » Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:56 pm

WaukeeBlues wrote:BCS Championship
#1 Ohio State vs. #2 LSU

Orange Bowl
#8 Kansas vs. #3 Virginia Tech

Fiesta Bowl
#4 Oklahoma vs. #9 West Virginia

Sugar Bowl
#5 Georgia vs. #10 Hawaii

Rose Bowl
#7 USC vs. #13 Illinois

Cotton Bowl
#6 Missouri vs. Arkansas

My gripes are that Illinois somehow, god knows, got into the Rose Bowl and while I think Ohio State and LSU are, I would say, the best two teams in the country- that notion is hazy at best.

and oh yea...

Insight Bowl
Indiana vs. Oklahoma State

:D


Not that I am capable of coming up with the best format... but this season is (as is seemingly every season) a perfect example how much better a playoff format would be for college football. Then we would all really know who the best was.
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Postby ohio BLUES » Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:58 pm

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Re: 2007 BCS Bowls

Postby Philo » Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:42 pm

WaukeeBlues wrote:BCS Championship
#1 Ohio State vs. #2 LSU

Orange Bowl
#8 Kansas vs. #3 Virginia Tech

Fiesta Bowl
#4 Oklahoma vs. #9 West Virginia

Sugar Bowl
#5 Georgia vs. #10 Hawaii

Rose Bowl
#7 USC vs. #13 Illinois

Cotton Bowl
#6 Missouri vs. Arkansas

My gripes are that Illinois somehow, god knows, got into the Rose Bowl and while I think Ohio State and LSU are, I would say, the best two teams in the country- that notion is hazy at best.

and oh yea...

Insight Bowl
Indiana vs. Oklahoma State

:D



So what is the problem with Missouri being in the Cotton bowl?back in the day before this BCS crap started being in the cotton Bowl was a good thing now all of a sudden its a dissapointment i don't get it.
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Postby Leedog » Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:44 pm

Can someone explain what the big deal is about Mizzou getting snubbed by the BCS bowls? I mean, except for the championship game, why are they more prestigeous? Just money? I mean the Tigers are rated #6 in the standings. If they take care of biz against Ark, they will move up in the final rankings over anyone ahead of them that loses, won't they? I mean the cotton bowl is one of the main games on Jan 1.
BTW, how many bowl games does New Orleans need?
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Postby WaukeeBlues » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:03 am

Leedog wrote:Can someone explain what the big deal is about Mizzou getting snubbed by the BCS bowls? I mean, except for the championship game, why are they more prestigeous? Just money? I mean the Tigers are rated #6 in the standings. If they take care of biz against Ark, they will move up in the final rankings over anyone ahead of them that loses, won't they? I mean the cotton bowl is one of the main games on Jan 1.
BTW, how many bowl games does New Orleans need?


Not positive but I think Ohio State and LSU get the top two spots regardless of the outcome of the game while #3- 25 are up in the air?

I think that's how it works but I'm far from positive.

and yea, no kidding- Arkansas? Okay, they beat LSU but uh... whatever.
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Postby BoxCar » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:52 pm

Leedog wrote:Can someone explain what the big deal is about Mizzou getting snubbed by the BCS bowls? I mean, except for the championship game, why are they more prestigeous? Just money? I mean the Tigers are rated #6 in the standings. If they take care of biz against Ark, they will move up in the final rankings over anyone ahead of them that loses, won't they? I mean the cotton bowl is one of the main games on Jan 1.
BTW, how many bowl games does New Orleans need?
To me, as a Mizzou student, it is a big deal because we feel we're more deserving of a BCS bowl than KU or Illinois. We beat both and our only losses (granted we have 2 where KU has 1) are against one better team.

What I don't understand is how the BCS bowls aren't decided by the BCS standings at all. If it was, MU over KU in the BCS bowl and KU plays in the Cottonelle Toilet Bowl. So what IS the point of the BCS if it doesn't even decide who plays?

I'm ok with NO getting some bowl games to get money back into that city after Katrina (Bush) demolished it.

My friend and I were having an argument about who we should want to win in the KU and OU games.

He argues that the Big 12 winning games brings more prestige and money to the conference and Mizzou. He says that OU going on to win shows we are a good team, the same with KU winning.

I say that I can not allow myself to root for a team that beat mine, especially when they are rivals. I asked him if he'd root for the Cubs in the WS if they knocked off the Birds in the NLCS. He said no.

I think that the benefits for Mizzou of KU/OU winning aren't as satisfying as watching their team and fans go though the torture we went through, but I understand his argument.
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Postby Guppy » Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:24 pm

BoxCar wrote:
Leedog wrote:Can someone explain what the big deal is about Mizzou getting snubbed by the BCS bowls? I mean, except for the championship game, why are they more prestigeous? Just money? I mean the Tigers are rated #6 in the standings. If they take care of biz against Ark, they will move up in the final rankings over anyone ahead of them that loses, won't they? I mean the cotton bowl is one of the main games on Jan 1.
BTW, how many bowl games does New Orleans need?
To me, as a Mizzou student, it is a big deal because we feel we're more deserving of a BCS bowl than KU or Illinois. We beat both and our only losses (granted we have 2 where KU has 1) are against one better team.

What I don't understand is how the BCS bowls aren't decided by the BCS standings at all. If it was, MU over KU in the BCS bowl and KU plays in the Cottonelle Toilet Bowl. So what IS the point of the BCS if it doesn't even decide who plays?

I'm ok with NO getting some bowl games to get money back into that city after Katrina (Bush) demolished it.

My friend and I were having an argument about who we should want to win in the KU and OU games.

He argues that the Big 12 winning games brings more prestige and money to the conference and Mizzou. He says that OU going on to win shows we are a good team, the same with KU winning.

I say that I can not allow myself to root for a team that beat mine, especially when they are rivals. I asked him if he'd root for the Cubs in the WS if they knocked off the Birds in the NLCS. He said no.

I think that the benefits for Mizzou of KU/OU winning aren't as satisfying as watching their team and fans go though the torture we went through, but I understand his argument.


There are automatic bids by conferences to some of the BCS games (VA Tech to Orange, Oklahoma to Fiesta, etc). The rest of the teams that play (at-large) are decided by those that run the bowl themselves, not the BCS. Those running the Rose picked Illinois, those in the Orange wanted KU, etc.
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Postby goon attack » Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:41 pm

Am I the only one who thought "Big Choice Sensimilla Bowls" when seeing the phrase BCS Bowls?
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Postby BoxCar » Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:39 pm

Guppy wrote:
BoxCar wrote:
Leedog wrote:Can someone explain what the big deal is about Mizzou getting snubbed by the BCS bowls? I mean, except for the championship game, why are they more prestigeous? Just money? I mean the Tigers are rated #6 in the standings. If they take care of biz against Ark, they will move up in the final rankings over anyone ahead of them that loses, won't they? I mean the cotton bowl is one of the main games on Jan 1.
BTW, how many bowl games does New Orleans need?
To me, as a Mizzou student, it is a big deal because we feel we're more deserving of a BCS bowl than KU or Illinois. We beat both and our only losses (granted we have 2 where KU has 1) are against one better team.

What I don't understand is how the BCS bowls aren't decided by the BCS standings at all. If it was, MU over KU in the BCS bowl and KU plays in the Cottonelle Toilet Bowl. So what IS the point of the BCS if it doesn't even decide who plays?

I'm ok with NO getting some bowl games to get money back into that city after Katrina (Bush) demolished it.

My friend and I were having an argument about who we should want to win in the KU and OU games.

He argues that the Big 12 winning games brings more prestige and money to the conference and Mizzou. He says that OU going on to win shows we are a good team, the same with KU winning.

I say that I can not allow myself to root for a team that beat mine, especially when they are rivals. I asked him if he'd root for the Cubs in the WS if they knocked off the Birds in the NLCS. He said no.

I think that the benefits for Mizzou of KU/OU winning aren't as satisfying as watching their team and fans go though the torture we went through, but I understand his argument.


There are automatic bids by conferences to some of the BCS games (VA Tech to Orange, Oklahoma to Fiesta, etc). The rest of the teams that play (at-large) are decided by those that run the bowl themselves, not the BCS. Those running the Rose picked Illinois, those in the Orange wanted KU, etc.
Then I am boycotting the Rose and Orange bowl for their poor selections. :lol:
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Postby the knob » Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:42 pm

goon attack wrote:Am I the only one who thought "Big Choice Sensimilla Bowls" when seeing the phrase BCS Bowls?


One of the local talk show hosts in Columbia said we should just drop the 'C' from BCS when discussing the bowl selection process.
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Postby Leedog » Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:55 pm

I thought one of the births in the Rose Bowl went to the Big 10 champ unless they qualified for the Championship game (Ohio St), in which case the runner up get's the slot (Illinois).
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Postby tsblue » Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:26 pm

Leedog wrote:I thought one of the births in the Rose Bowl went to the Big 10 champ unless they qualified for the Championship game (Ohio St), in which case the runner up get's the slot (Illinois).


It is not required, they have the option to choose a non-Big 10 or Pac 10 team if one or both are in the title game. Since the Rose Bowl is the group standing in the way of a +1 game ( a four team playoff, in essence) they can bite me. And it always is nails on chalk board the 357th time you hear "the grandaddy of them all"....
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Postby WaukeeBlues » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:46 pm

tsblue wrote:
Leedog wrote:I thought one of the births in the Rose Bowl went to the Big 10 champ unless they qualified for the Championship game (Ohio St), in which case the runner up get's the slot (Illinois).


It is not required, they have the option to choose a non-Big 10 or Pac 10 team if one or both are in the title game. Since the Rose Bowl is the group standing in the way of a +1 game ( a four team playoff, in essence) they can bite me. And it always is nails on chalk board the 357th time you hear "the grandaddy of them all"....


Why the heck would you NOT want to pick the best possible team out there to play in your bowl in order to make the game more exciting, a better draw, more interest, etc?

Like many things in the BCS, this doesn't make sense to me.
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Postby eastcoastbluesman » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:58 pm

at rivals.com, a poll of several thousand online rates MU being left out of the BCS as the biggest snub of the college football postseason. I won't disagree with that.

Not only is this selection a 'big deal' to anyone who follows MU football because it means the program loses out on money, and not only because it means that two teams MU beat get into bowls that are perceived as more important games between better teams, but also because MU has now been matched up with an unranked team. We're the NCAA's and the Cotton Bowl selection committee's patsies, chosen simply to be the high-profile opponent for Darren McFadden's sendoff. That's what this game is being billed as, nothing more. What did Michigan, Illinois, or Wisconsin, for example, do to merit better match-ups than the Tigers? Why do Kansas and West Virginia get into the BCS bowls and not MU? Whom has Hawaii played, precisely?

This is a sad reward for the best year the program has had in 40 years.
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Postby Rohan » Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:09 pm

BoxCar wrote:I say that I can not allow myself to root for a team that beat mine, especially when they are rivals.


You mean like how I was rooting for Mizzou over OU? :lol:

Trust me, I know how you feel. For me, the WORST thing about KU losing to Mizzou was the reaction I received from Mizzou fans after the game. I was getting text messages from people my wife works with. People I've met only a hadfull of times. Mizzou fans were coming out of the woodwork that night.

Part of me wanted OU to kick the shit out of Mizzou just so I could rub it Mr. badwagon Mizzou fan's face. The other part of me understands that if Mizzou would have beat OU, and then went on to beat OSU in the BCS, Kansas is probably a one loss team, with the only loss coming at the hands of the National Champs.
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Postby Rohan » Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:16 pm

eastcoastbluesman wrote:at rivals.com, a poll of several thousand online rates MU being left out of the BCS as the biggest snub of the college football postseason. I won't disagree with that.

Not only is this selection a 'big deal' to anyone who follows MU football because it means the program loses out on money, and not only because it means that two teams MU beat get into bowls that are perceived as more important games between better teams, but also because MU has now been matched up with an unranked team. We're the NCAA's and the Cotton Bowl selection committee's patsies, chosen simply to be the high-profile opponent for Darren McFadden's sendoff. That's what this game is being billed as, nothing more. What did Michigan, Illinois, or Wisconsin, for example, do to merit better match-ups than the Tigers? Why do Kansas and West Virginia get into the BCS bowls and not MU? Whom has Hawaii played, precisely?

This is a sad reward for the best year the program has had in 40 years.


Bottom line is, the bowls choose who they want to play in their games.

Until there is a playoff system, it's going to stay this way. This isn't the first year the BCS has had controversy. It's just the first year Mizzou has been affected by it.
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Postby WaukeeBlues » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:58 pm

F it, playoff tree like NCAA 1-AA or whatever league App St is in.
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Postby eastcoastbluesman » Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:56 pm

I hope the Tigers stuff McFadden's head up his @$$...probably won't happen, but luckily Arkansas has to put an entire team on the field, so at least MU will walk to an easy victory...
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Postby WaukeeBlues » Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:18 pm

eastcoastbluesman wrote:I hope the Tigers stuff McFadden's head up his @$$...probably won't happen, but luckily Arkansas has to put an entire team on the field, so at least MU will walk to an easy victory...


Put another way, if Mizzou wipes the field with them, it just points all the more as to why they deserved a 'real' bowl.
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