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Postby F Keenan » Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:03 am

form sentences. Discuss.
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Re: Words

Postby gaijin » Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:14 am

I disagree.
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Re: Words

Postby richtedm » Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:13 pm

gaijin wrote:I disagree.


Yes, there are times in which words may not form sentences. You can't have a sentence without words, but you can have words without a sentence.
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Re: Words

Postby F Keenan » Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:33 pm

richtedm wrote:
gaijin wrote:I disagree.


Yes, there are times in which words may not form sentences. You can't have a sentence without words, but you can have words without a sentence.



Very true, however, I could also say that lumber forms houses. The lumber would require a carpenter to form the house. Discuss further.
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Re: Words

Postby BleedinBlue04 » Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:42 pm

I don't like words....or lumber
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Re: Words

Postby F Keenan » Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:45 pm

BleedinBlue04 wrote:I don't like words....or lumber



:lol: Well played sir.
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Re: Words

Postby ohio BLUES » Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:29 pm

gaijin wrote:I disagree.

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Re: Words

Postby cprice12 » Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:08 pm

Can I move this to the OT Forum, or is there a reason it's here?
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Re: Words

Postby dmiles2186 » Thu Nov 13, 2008 4:20 pm

I get it. I see what you did there. :mrgreen:
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Re: Words

Postby Guppy » Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:35 pm

It is moved
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Re: Words

Postby stinkdified » Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:42 pm

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now to spice things up a little
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Re: Words

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Re: Words

Postby McClement9 » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:47 pm

I like adjectives.

Discuss.
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Re: Words

Postby Guppy » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:51 pm

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Re: Words

Postby Kreegz2 » Thu Nov 13, 2008 8:52 pm

McClement9 wrote:I like adjectives.

Discuss.


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Re: Words

Postby McClement9 » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:18 pm

Kreegz2 wrote:
McClement9 wrote:I like adjectives.

Discuss.


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interjections can kick the shit out of adjectives anyday


But if you could combine the two... :aaaa:
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Re: Words

Postby F Keenan » Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:44 am

Adjectives are for queers.
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Re: Words

Postby stinkdified » Fri Nov 14, 2008 4:01 pm

this is pretty interesting. i guess its valid, it came off an .edu
Mark's argument concerned the lack of evidence that popular culture is in decline, and, in particular, the lack of evidence that school texts are being dumbed down. He included a pretty graph showing how words are distributed in different text genres. After a little while digesting the graph, understanding the log scale etc. (ahh, so that's what a language log is...), I decided there was something about it that confused me, although unconnected with Mark's main point. It seems that 1st grade readers have relatively fewer very high frequency words than do newspapers and scientific abstracts. Funny, without thinking about it I would have guessed just the opposite.
Here is the graph (from Marty White at Cornell, and found in this nice document describing White's research):

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As we move along the x-axis, we consider successively less frequent words. For a given word rank, the height of the graph tells us what proportions of words in the text have that frequency or greater. Thus we can see that the 1000 most common words in 1st grade readers account for over 90% of the text, while the top 1000 account for less than 70% in newspapers, and less than 50% in scientific abstracts (from Nature, not Science as you might interpret the legend to mean). This is supposed to provide an objective justification for the intuition that 1st grade readers are less complex than newspapers which are less complex than scientific abstracts.
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Re: Words

Postby McClement9 » Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:30 pm

F Keenan wrote:Adjectives are for queers.


Take that back :evil:
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