JesusNEVERexisted wrote:You make good points glen but there is one crucial point all you guys must remember. The burden of proof is on the believer! This stuff about you cannot prove or disprove a god is a useless argument because you cannot prove ANYTHING doesn't exist! Even a Christian cannot prove Zeus or Apollo isn't real. You cannot prove a negative but you can use logic to reach some pretty obvious conclusions.
How do you Christians explain the hundreds (if not thousands) of sick Christian kids who die every year? I've even asked Christian clergy about this and they have NO answer. To their parents it made no difference if they prayed to Medusa or Jesus because their kid died.
All I'm saying is if you Christians believe literally thousands of gods are fake then by logical extension and common sense YOUR GOD IS FAKE TOO! I have been to multiple churches of different denominations and Jesus is just as absent there as Hercules or any other god! I noticed Christians are full of doubt and strongly question their own religion. All I'm saying is just be realistic and use common sense! If humans can make up stories of thousands of gods they can easily make up a story of another one that no one ever saw on earth named Jesus!
But isn't the definition of using 'common sense' the doubt that these Christians speak to? It doesn't make sense to believe in something that is not there. And most Christians know that. In fact, my brother in law who is a worship and youth group leader at a church in the St. Louis metro area, and is one of the strongest Christians I know, even admits this very thing. He and my sister in law endured a personal tragedy last summer that is as tough as anyone can go through. They used their faith as a source of strength to continue on.
I'm not sure I understand your argument about Christians with sick kids. Of course the clergy didn't have an answer. Who does? If we did, then we could save all kids from sickness and tragedy. I think what you fail to understand about Christians is that when things like this happen, they turn to God and they 'leave it in his hands.' Should their child or family member perish, there is a relief that it is 'God's will' and their child is in a 'better place.' They aren't happy with it of course, but because of their belief in Heaven, Christians are comforted by the fact they will see them again in the afterlife.
I think you'll find most Christians will admit to not knowing all the answers. They'll admit to the doubt. It's only natural. I keep using this word over and over again, but ultimately it comes down to faith. That's it. They just have faith that all these crazy things they believe in are real. And thus, they're okay that the burden of proof is on them.