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Smoking ban for troops?
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:31 pm
by Ruutu15
I don't smoke, but this is ridiculous. Not only is it out of line for them to pass this ban, but seriously, who would want a Jarhead having nicotine withdrawals?!
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/07/12/milita ... index.html
Re: Smoking ban for troops?
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:32 pm
by Kreegz2
Are they for whatever reason pretending this is new information? It's not like the soldiers that smoke don't know this. Nicotine relieves stress, soldiers are under the highest amounts of stress, don't you think this ban would have happened years ago if it was up for real consideration?
As someone who leaves for boot camp in a month, I gotta say that this really pisses me off. I'm not a cigarette smoker, but the reality of it is something far worse than just a ban on smoking.
It would never work, and would be completely ignored. I would say that over 50% of the military smokes, there's no way they're going to be able to force that many people to just stop suddenly. People will continue smoking, it will be completely ignored, to pretend anything different will happen is ignorant. This rule will only have an effect 40-50 years down the road when the Soldier gets lung cancer and applies for veterans benefits. "Smoked in the service? Sorry, violation of regs, we can't give you any aid". It's total bullshit if it ever happens, which I highly doubt anyway.
Soldiers who smoke are still healthier than 90% of civilians who don't smoke
Re: Smoking ban for troops?
Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:08 pm
by Ruutu15
Kreegz2 wrote:Are they for whatever reason pretending this is new information? It's not like the soldiers that smoke don't know this. Nicotine relieves stress, soldiers are under the highest amounts of stress, don't you think this ban would have happened years ago if it was up for real consideration?
As someone who leaves for boot camp in a month, I gotta say that this really pisses me off. I'm not a cigarette smoker, but the reality of it is something far worse than just a ban on smoking.
It would never work, and would be completely ignored. I would say that over 50% of the military smokes, there's no way they're going to be able to force that many people to just stop suddenly. People will continue smoking, it will be completely ignored, to pretend anything different will happen is ignorant. This rule will only have an effect 40-50 years down the road when the Soldier gets lung cancer and applies for veterans benefits. "Smoked in the service? Sorry, violation of regs, we can't give you any aid". It's total bullshit if it ever happens, which I highly doubt anyway.
Soldiers who smoke are still healthier than 90% of civilians who don't smoke
Agree on all counts. I thought the whole thing was absurd and didn't see how they'd enforce the rule.
Re: Smoking ban for troops?
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:50 pm
by Guppy
Those in the military should have right do whatever they damn well please.
One of the interesting things I found out when I was in that if you were stationed in the US and on state property, you had to follow the state laws when it came to drinking. But if you were on federal property (like Camp Pendleton) then one could drink when they were 18. But that is another battle all together.
I got to agree with Kreegz2 with the number of people that smoked/dipped when I was in. It was probably higher than that though.
Re: Smoking ban for troops?
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:07 pm
by Bernie Federko
I know how the troops feel. Those assholes at Fox Sports tried to ban me from doing lines off of my laptop spacebar. They kept complaining about "random computer noises" during the telecast. Fascists.
Re: Smoking ban for troops?
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:40 am
by Kreegz2
Re: Smoking ban for troops?
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:12 am
by abc789987
instead of cigs why don't we give them these
?
Re: Smoking ban for troops?
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:22 am
by Guppy
abc789987 wrote:instead of cigs why don't we give them these
?
How many bullets would you like in your body if you gave them that?
Re: Smoking ban for troops?
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:44 am
by KJVO_1611
Guppy wrote:Those in the military should have right do whatever they d*** well please.
One of the interesting things I found out when I was in that if you were stationed in the US and on state property, you had to follow the state laws when it came to drinking. But if you were on federal property (like Camp Pendleton) then one could drink when they were 18. But that is another battle all together.
I got to agree with Kreegz2 with the number of people that smoked/dipped when I was in. It was probably higher than that though.
They canked that 1996 or there abouts.
I was stationed at Camp Pendleton when that flew.
Guns Up
KJVO1611
2/9-2/4 Fox Co 1st Mar Div.
0331
Re: Smoking ban for troops?
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:21 am
by big d note
Somebody on the radio last night asked if the smoking ban will also apply to the Commander in Chief.
Re: Smoking ban for troops?
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:46 am
by Guppy
KJVO_1611 wrote:Guppy wrote:Those in the military should have right do whatever they d*** well please.
One of the interesting things I found out when I was in that if you were stationed in the US and on state property, you had to follow the state laws when it came to drinking. But if you were on federal property (like Camp Pendleton) then one could drink when they were 18. But that is another battle all together.
I got to agree with Kreegz2 with the number of people that smoked/dipped when I was in. It was probably higher than that though.
They canked that 1996 or there abouts.
I was stationed at Camp Pendleton when that flew.
Guns Up
KJVO1611
2/9-2/4 Fox Co 1st Mar Div.
0331
ain't that a crock of poop. I was out there in 92-93.
