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Re: Super Bowl XLIV

Postby WaukeeBlues » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:33 pm

I just think Peyton lost some of his poise. And that's very uncharacteristic. You saw him on the sidelines towards the end- looking like he was going to jack someone in the face.

He gets out there and plays pissed off and makes some bad throws; one of which goes all the way back for a TD. You have to maintain control in situations like that. His O-line was giving him time; maybe his receivers were also having problems for the first time this year, I don't know. But for the first time all season the Colts couldn't finish. Very, very surprised.
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Re: Super Bowl XLIV

Postby Nyghtewynd » Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:49 pm

Peyton Manning now 9-9 in playoff games. That's called "average".

Jim Caldwell was completely outcoached. Indy's really going to go into next year with him as their HC when guys like Bill Cowher are out there?
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Re: Super Bowl XLIV

Postby dmiles2186 » Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:09 pm

keithp40 wrote:
dmiles2186 wrote:Saints 31
Colts 28

Saints carry a lead late into the game, Peyton pulls the Colts back to a tie, only to have Brees take the Saints down the field and get them into field position for the win.


keep dreaming....the super bowl fairy tale is over the saints........colts win 45-3


Say what? Looks like I was spot on with those 31 points for the Saints....and the Saints winning.
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Re: Super Bowl XLIV

Postby WaukeeBlues » Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:09 pm

Nyghtewynd wrote:Peyton Manning now 9-9 in playoff games. That's called "average".


If you're somehow implying that Manning is an average quarterback I will laugh.

Jim Caldwell was completely outcoached. Indy's really going to go into next year with him as their HC when guys like Bill Cowher are out there?


Both teams' offense were having their way with the others' defense tonight. I have no idea where you're getting this "completely outcoached" thing from. Colts stood up the Saints on their 4th and goal, and void of the onside kick, there wasn't one move that was pulled that was "brilliance." And I'm sure the interception return for a TD was a coaching call as well.

They were neck and neck all game until the 4th quarter and even then the only reason the Saints got a comfortable lead was because of the pick return for a TD. I fail to see a convincing argument otherwise. So where the coaching brilliance you are referring to came from is beyond me and likewise why Caldwell was so "bad."
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Re: Super Bowl XLIV

Postby glen a richter » Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:35 am

Just sayin....

I, for one, am glad the Saints won, regardless of KeithP40's blinding hatred for the entire city of New Orleans.

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Re: Super Bowl XLIV

Postby keithp40 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:24 am

WaukeeBlues wrote:
Nyghtewynd wrote:Peyton Manning now 9-9 in playoff games. That's called "average".


If you're somehow implying that Manning is an average quarterback I will laugh.

that fact that he has played in 18 playoff games at this point in his career, even without a superbowl win, that makes him more than average at the least. the parody in the nfl is so rampant. back in the days of the norris division, every team seemed to make the playoffs....seems different in the nhl now for some reason.
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Re: Super Bowl XLIV

Postby keithp40 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:37 am

glen a richter wrote:Just sayin....

I, for one, am glad the Saints won, regardless of KeithP40's blinding hatred for the entire city of New Orleans.

.....just sayin


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Re: Super Bowl XLIV

Postby dmiles2186 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:29 am

keithp40 wrote:
WaukeeBlues wrote:
Nyghtewynd wrote:Peyton Manning now 9-9 in playoff games. That's called "average".


If you're somehow implying that Manning is an average quarterback I will laugh.

that fact that he has played in 18 playoff games at this point in his career, even without a superbowl win, that makes him more than average at the least. the parody in the nfl is so rampant. back in the days of the norris division, every team seemed to make the playoffs....seems different in the nhl now for some reason.


Peyton Manning is not average. Sure, his postseason record? It's average; 9-9 is the definition of average. But the 4 time (FOUR TIME) league MVP, the guy who is going to shatter passing records, the guy who is automatic week in and week out? Not even close to average.

I always find it funny, that for whatever reason in football, championships automatically make decent QB's all time greats. For instance, Joe Namath's numbers were so-so, but because he won that huge Super Bowl....he's a hall of famer. Take hockey for example, if Ray Bourque wouldn't have won the Cup in '01, would that have hurt his Hall candidacy or his overall legacy (which so many football analysts seem concerned about)? No. Not at all. But now, because Peyton Manning is 1-1 in Super Bowls, he's average.

So since we're going by Super Bowls, Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson are as good as Peyton Manning since they all have 1 Super Bowl win?

Yeah....
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Re: Super Bowl XLIV

Postby keithp40 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:23 pm

dmiles2186 wrote: 9-9 is the definition of average.


9-9 isn't necessarily the definition of 'average'. if you are 9-9 in superbowls, then that means you have won 9 and lost 9. if that were the case for someone, they would be the greatest athlete in the history of athletics. winning 9 playoff games regardless of how many losses is a great feat. not too many QBs can say they have won 9 playoff games.
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Re: Super Bowl XLIV

Postby Nyghtewynd » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:39 pm

Yeah, great record...for the Atlanta Braves. Great if you have to win a game against Buffalo in October. Not so great if you expect to accomplish greatness.
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Re: Super Bowl XLIV

Postby keithp40 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:37 pm

Nyghtewynd wrote:Yeah, great record...for the Atlanta Braves. Great if you have to win a game against Buffalo in October. Not so great if you expect to accomplish greatness.


....accomplish greatness???? sorry to break it to you, but 9-9 in the playoffs is a great record....not to mention, the QB is just one guy, the defense plays a role in the result too.....win playoff wins is great. how many playoff wins does kurt warner have? do you not think that manning is hall of fame material? when all is said and done, he is a slam dunk.....warner has a great chance, but manning will be a slam dunk for sure.....and yes, 9-9 is great.
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