Sorry, I thought you were an idiot before I was in a fraternity.glen a richter wrote:LOL, the response I'd expect from someone who was in a frat.OS wrote:LOL, idiot.glen a richter wrote:Frats = buying friends, and frankly I'm offended that the term Greek is associated with asshat frat kids acting like jerks. It offends me as a Greek to be cast in the same light as them.
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I was blissfully unaware that frat members were capable of thinking. Thanks for the enlightenment. And I pretty much knew you were an idiot before this thread started, so I guess that makes it fairly even.OS wrote:Sorry, I thought you were an idiot before I was in a fraternity.glen a richter wrote:LOL, the response I'd expect from someone who was in a frat.OS wrote:LOL, idiot.glen a richter wrote:Frats = buying friends, and frankly I'm offended that the term Greek is associated with asshat frat kids acting like jerks. It offends me as a Greek to be cast in the same light as them.
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Only before this thread? Your lack of intelligence has been obvious since well before this site even existed.glen a richter wrote:I was blissfully unaware that frat members were capable of thinking. Thanks for the enlightenment. And I pretty much knew you were an idiot before this thread started, so I guess that makes it fairly even.OS wrote:Sorry, I thought you were an idiot before I was in a fraternity.glen a richter wrote:LOL, the response I'd expect from someone who was in a frat.OS wrote:LOL, idiot.glen a richter wrote:Frats = buying friends, and frankly I'm offended that the term Greek is associated with asshat frat kids acting like jerks. It offends me as a Greek to be cast in the same light as them.
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This would probably bother me a little bit if it was coming from someone with a shred of decency, but coming from you it really doesn't bother me at all.OS wrote:Only before this thread? Your lack of intelligence has been obvious since well before this site even existed.glen a richter wrote:I was blissfully unaware that frat members were capable of thinking. Thanks for the enlightenment. And I pretty much knew you were an idiot before this thread started, so I guess that makes it fairly even.OS wrote:Sorry, I thought you were an idiot before I was in a fraternity.glen a richter wrote:LOL, the response I'd expect from someone who was in a frat.OS wrote:LOL, idiot.glen a richter wrote:Frats = buying friends, and frankly I'm offended that the term Greek is associated with asshat frat kids acting like jerks. It offends me as a Greek to be cast in the same light as them.
Why are you trying to bait me, by the way? Actively seeking a fight? You're a bigger asshat than I thought.
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One of the great things about KU was that it was so anti-Greek. From what I heard from friends at Mizzou, it's pretty much the opposite there.
The whole networking thing with fraternities pisses me off too. It's one of the reasons I'm glad I'm not in the big corporate world. I'd hate to lose a job or a promotion to some lazy jerk that happened to be in the same fraternity as the boss.
The whole networking thing with fraternities pisses me off too. It's one of the reasons I'm glad I'm not in the big corporate world. I'd hate to lose a job or a promotion to some lazy jerk that happened to be in the same fraternity as the boss.
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You went to UMSL, so I'm guessing...Pike?OS wrote:Only before this thread? Your lack of intelligence has been obvious since well before this site even existed.glen a richter wrote:I was blissfully unaware that frat members were capable of thinking. Thanks for the enlightenment. And I pretty much knew you were an idiot before this thread started, so I guess that makes it fairly even.OS wrote:Sorry, I thought you were an idiot before I was in a fraternity.glen a richter wrote:LOL, the response I'd expect from someone who was in a frat.OS wrote:LOL, idiot.glen a richter wrote:Frats = buying friends, and frankly I'm offended that the term Greek is associated with asshat frat kids acting like jerks. It offends me as a Greek to be cast in the same light as them.
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That's a big reason why I'm glad I went to UMSL over Mizzou. Most everyone I went to HS with went to Mizzou so I visited there a lot and it was frat guy fever there. UMSL's frats were very much a joke (sorry OS).big d note wrote:One of the great things about KU was that it was so anti-Greek. From what I heard from friends at Mizzou, it's pretty much the opposite there.
I'm generally not a stereotyping person.. But every time I hear the word "frat" I think of the dumbf*ck that lived in the dorm next to me my freshman year who was drunk every single day, flunked out after the first semester, listened to terrible (Franking) music, played the same lame-ass Madden 98 game every single day, and was just an overall tool.
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Oh, there's no question that UMSL's Greek community is weak compared to a school like Mizzou. Unfortunatley it's a huge battle at UMSL trying to grow the community becuase the leadership at UMSL has been anti-Greek int he past, particularly Tuhill. And, amusingly enough, girls couldn't have sororiety houses for a long time becuase BelRidge/Nor considers any house with 5 or more girls a whore house.Mellanby_equals_grit wrote:That's a big reason why I'm glad I went to UMSL over Mizzou. Most everyone I went to HS with went to Mizzou so I visited there a lot and it was frat guy fever there. UMSL's frats were very much a joke (sorry OS).
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Same story at SLU only they also decided to include no fraternity houses. But they gave us a Greek dormatory (until they took it away). Its getting very anti-greek there.OS wrote:Oh, there's no question that UMSL's Greek community is weak compared to a school like UMSL. Unfortunatley it's a huge battle at UMSL trying to grow the community becuase the leadership at UMSL has been anti-Greek int he past, particularly Tuhill. And, amusingly enough, girls couldn't have sororiety houses for a long time becuase BelRidge/Nor considers any house with 5 or more girls a whore house.Mellanby_equals_grit wrote:That's a big reason why I'm glad I went to UMSL over Mizzou. Most everyone I went to HS with went to Mizzou so I visited there a lot and it was frat guy fever there. UMSL's frats were very much a joke (sorry OS).
I did fraternity stuff - stereotypes exist everywhere, I dont need to defend having been in one and I'm not going to begin to tell everyone to try it. It worked out for me - I wasn't a nonstop drunk, I didn't fail out of school, I made some pretty good friends, and a whole helluva lot of memories.
Oh and since I've graduated, no longer paying dues, the guys are still my friends (terrible business people, dont they know I'm not paying them to be my friend anymore?)
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I agree with you and it's unfortunate. I would say the majority ARE assholes that think that they are better than non-fraternity guys or worse, better than anyone else not in their fraternity. There are many fraternities that, if I saw a guy wearing the letters, I would never want to say a word to them because that's how low I think of them and what they do to their pledges/girls/etc. There ARE some decent ones though and my fraternity is an example; I wouldn't have joined a fraternity if it wasn't.STL JA wrote:Personally, I could careless about them. I'm not going to say all frat guys are douchebags, but the majority of ones I have run across have been fools. For some reason, they think they're hot shit. Same can be said about the bimbos in sororities...
By the same token, there are decent sororities too. <tangent> Several sororities and fraternities are academic ones as well and granted the fact that they aren't that much fun (or in the sororities case, particularly attractive) they are in it for the right reasons I think.
In general, most fraternities have the "creeds" or cool sounding fluff that they say they believe in but really don't, which basically defeats the purpose for their existence, which, to me, makes a lot of them all one and the same.</tangent>
yes. SAE.Ruutu wrote:Waukee, it sounds like you're in it for the right reasons, though. The people I'm referring to are those who DO fit into the stereotype...and there are a lot of them, even some of my friends.
By the way, are you in Bloomington?
Yup, you are the omniscient zen master on fraternity life.ksbluesfan wrote: Pledging loyalty to a bunch of assholes that will forget your name a month after they failed out of their last semester?
see above.glen a richter wrote:Frats = buying friends, and frankly I'm offended that the term Greek is associated with asshat frat kids acting like jerks. It offends me as a Greek to be cast in the same light as them.
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And you say this based on your post-college experience? Send me a PM when you're 40 to let me know how many of your frat brothers are still close friends.WaukeeBlues wrote:Yup, you are the omniscient zen master on fraternity life.ksbluesfan wrote: Pledging loyalty to a bunch of assholes that will forget your name a month after they failed out of their last semester?
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By the way, are you in Bloomington?
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I technically can't say it because we are getting chartered here in Spring (getting back on campus after a really bad chapter got us thrown off) so none of us are full initiates, but I'm a Founding Father here.richtedm wrote:Phi AlphaWaukeeBlues wrote:yes. SAE.Ruutu wrote:Waukee, it sounds like you're in it for the right reasons, though. The people I'm referring to are those who DO fit into the stereotype...and there are a lot of them, even some of my friends.
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Unless I read it wrong, I believe what you said was "bunch of assholes who will forget your name in a month after failing."ksbluesfan wrote:And you say this based on your post-college experience? Send me a PM when you're 40 to let me know how many of your frat brothers are still close friends.WaukeeBlues wrote:Yup, you are the omniscient zen master on fraternity life.ksbluesfan wrote: Pledging loyalty to a bunch of assholes that will forget your name a month after they failed out of their last semester?
I may not be "great friends" with them at 40 but to say they won't know who I am and that they are all idiots simply shows your hatred at the greek system and nothing like sound reasoning.
In general, how many of your college buddies are you still close friends with? Probably not many. I know this because of my dads, uncles, etc.
At least with a fraternity you have a constant link to your alma matter and make reunions much more enjoyable than they would be without it.
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Theres tons more out there, but I forgot them. I always thought they were funny.
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