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Re: Barret Jackman - Is he or isn't he a good defenseman?

Postby section319 » Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:56 am

JWatt (formerly PMS) wrote:The only thing that would explain your stance is that Brewer is a defensive liability and needs to be paired with a defenseman that is strong enough defensively to bail him out and keep his goals allowed stats down.



This is kind of what I was saying. When Brewer is paired with a good defensive defenseman who can make up for Brewers defensive lapses, this makes Brewer better. Does it have to do with it being someone Brewer is comfortable with? Maybe but I think it utimately comes down to someone who can make up for his mistakes.
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Re: Barret Jackman - Is he or isn't he a good defenseman?

Postby section319 » Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:57 am

abc789987 wrote:I thought this thread was supposed to be about Jackman?


Another reason why this thread sucks..
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Re: Barret Jackman - Is he or isn't he a good defenseman?

Postby Leedog » Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:28 pm

Wasn't a fellow named Todd Reardon on a top d pairing on a pretty damn good team a few years ago?
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Re: Barret Jackman - Is he or isn't he a good defenseman?

Postby crazy blues fan » Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:32 pm

Shouldn't a #1 defenseman make his partner better not his partner make him better?
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Re: Barret Jackman - Is he or isn't he a good defenseman?

Postby Mellanby_equals_grit » Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:42 pm

crazy blues fan wrote:Shouldn't a #1 defenseman make his partner better not his partner make him better?


Only on the elite 22 teams of the league.
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Re: Barret Jackman - Is he or isn't he a good defenseman?

Postby Battra » Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:51 am

crazy blues fan wrote:Shouldn't a #1 defenseman make his partner better not his partner make him better?


Interesting assertion.
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Re: Barret Jackman - Is he or isn't he a good defenseman?

Postby section319 » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:01 pm

Battra wrote:
crazy blues fan wrote:Shouldn't a #1 defenseman make his partner better not his partner make him better?


Interesting assertion.




So.. What you are saying is Brewer sucks and is a #3 defenseman at best.. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Re: Barret Jackman - Is he or isn't he a good defenseman?

Postby Battra » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:37 pm

section319 wrote:
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crazy blues fan wrote:Shouldn't a #1 defenseman make his partner better not his partner make him better?


Interesting assertion.




So.. What you are saying is Brewer sucks and is a #3 defenseman at best.. Thanks for clearing that up.


Hmm...No...You see....were I to say that, I'd have typed it.

If Brewer sucked, by definition, he couldn't be a 2nd pairing NHL defensemen I don't think.

Do you?
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Re: Barret Jackman - Is he or isn't he a good defenseman?

Postby section319 » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:45 pm

Battra wrote:
section319 wrote:
Battra wrote:
crazy blues fan wrote:Shouldn't a #1 defenseman make his partner better not his partner make him better?


Interesting assertion.




So.. What you are saying is Brewer sucks and is a #3 defenseman at best.. Thanks for clearing that up.


Hmm...No...You see....were I to say that, I'd have typed it.

If Brewer sucked, by definition, he couldn't be a 2nd pairing NHL defensemen I don't think.

Do you?



Well he sucks and he is a 1st pairing NHL defenseman, so yeah, I would say it is possible.
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Re: Barret Jackman - Is he or isn't he a good defenseman?

Postby Battra » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:02 pm

section319 wrote:
Battra wrote:
section319 wrote:
Battra wrote:
crazy blues fan wrote:Shouldn't a #1 defenseman make his partner better not his partner make him better?


Interesting assertion.




So.. What you are saying is Brewer sucks and is a #3 defenseman at best.. Thanks for clearing that up.


Hmm...No...You see....were I to say that, I'd have typed it.

If Brewer sucked, by definition, he couldn't be a 2nd pairing NHL defensemen I don't think.

Do you?



Well he sucks and he is a 1st pairing NHL defenseman, so yeah, I would say it is possible.


Interesting.

So would you say that the players in say, the AHL are horrific?

What about Ian Cole?

If Brewer sucks and is in the NHL, Cole isn't even good enough to suck in the NHL yet, what does that make him?

I'd say your premise is flawed.
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Re: Barret Jackman - Is he or isn't he a good defenseman?

Postby Mellanby_equals_grit » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:07 pm

Battra wrote:
section319 wrote:
Battra wrote:
section319 wrote:
Battra wrote:
crazy blues fan wrote:Shouldn't a #1 defenseman make his partner better not his partner make him better?


Interesting assertion.




So.. What you are saying is Brewer sucks and is a #3 defenseman at best.. Thanks for clearing that up.


Hmm...No...You see....were I to say that, I'd have typed it.

If Brewer sucked, by definition, he couldn't be a 2nd pairing NHL defensemen I don't think.

Do you?



Well he sucks and he is a 1st pairing NHL defenseman, so yeah, I would say it is possible.


Interesting.

So would you say that the players in say, the AHL are horrific?

What about Ian Cole?

If Brewer sucks and is in the NHL, Cole isn't even good enough to suck in the NHL yet, what does that make him?

I'd say your premise is flawed.


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Re: Barret Jackman - Is he or isn't he a good defenseman?

Postby section319 » Thu Mar 26, 2009 12:39 pm

Battra wrote:
section319 wrote:
Battra wrote:
section319 wrote:
Battra wrote:
crazy blues fan wrote:Shouldn't a #1 defenseman make his partner better not his partner make him better?


Interesting assertion.




So.. What you are saying is Brewer sucks and is a #3 defenseman at best.. Thanks for clearing that up.


Hmm...No...You see....were I to say that, I'd have typed it.

If Brewer sucked, by definition, he couldn't be a 2nd pairing NHL defensemen I don't think.

Do you?



Well he sucks and he is a 1st pairing NHL defenseman, so yeah, I would say it is possible.


Interesting.

So would you say that the players in say, the AHL are horrific?

What about Ian Cole?

If Brewer sucks and is in the NHL, Cole isn't even good enough to suck in the NHL yet, what does that make him?

I'd say your premise is flawed.



You are probably pretty popular over at the Asylum huh?
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Re: Barret Jackman - Is he or isn't he a good defenseman?

Postby WaukeeBlues » Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:33 pm

Leedog wrote:Wasn't a fellow named Todd Reardon on a top d pairing on a pretty damn good team a few years ago?


Reirden- yea. Hit like a train IIRC. #32 or somethin?

I know he played for the Mighty Ducks for a while too.


edit: I stand corrected, #28.

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Re: Barret Jackman - Is he or isn't he a good defenseman?

Postby OS » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:10 pm

section319 wrote:You are probably pretty popular over at the Asylum huh?



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Re: Barret Jackman - Is he or isn't he a good defenseman?

Postby Leedog » Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:24 pm

WaukeeBlues wrote:
Leedog wrote:Wasn't a fellow named Todd Reardon on a top d pairing on a pretty damn good team a few years ago?


Reirden- yea. Hit like a train IIRC. #32 or somethin?

I know he played for the Mighty Ducks for a while too.


edit: I stand corrected, #28.

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and he never played for the Mighty Ducks. :?


Point is if he can be a top pair D, ANYONE can if they are paired with the right guy. MacInnis was on the second pairing. Does this mean Reardon was better than 2?
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Re: Barret Jackman - Is he or isn't he a good defenseman?

Postby SIU LAW » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:52 pm

Bump for interesting thread with interesting arguments.
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Re: Barret Jackman - Is he or isn't he a good defenseman?

Postby Battra » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:13 am

SIU LAW wrote:Bump for interesting thread with interesting arguments.


Holy crap, dude.

You have an issue.
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