The Goon Patrol: Rating Hockey's Fighters
The Elo algorithm, which adjusts a team's or player's record based on the strength of competition, is used to rank everything from chess players to BCS college-football teams. Now it can also be used to determine who are the best—wait for it—hockey fighters.
These days, fans who cherish a little pugilism with their hockey can go online and watch video of the fights and vote for who won and lost each one, or if it ended in a tie. By using these fans' decisions to drive the Elo algorithm, which was developed by Hungarian physicist Arpad Elo 50 years ago, we can see who the best hockey fighters truly are—and eliminate anyone who embellishes their record by never mixing it up with a top heavyweight.
There are no surprises at the top of our ranking list: Georges Laraque, who most recently played for the Montreal Canadiens and just had his contract bought out by the club, had a 19-fight unbeaten streak over two seasons, according to the fans' voting, and has beaten No. 2 Derek Boogaard, of the Minnesota Wild, four times. The algorithm really helps the Pittsburgh Penguins' Eric Godard, who has a .500 record in his fights but tends to fight only the toughest players in the league.
The system also identifies the best infrequent or up-and-coming fighters: Zdeno Chára of the Boston Bruins and Minnesota's John Scott (both undefeated), and 5-foot-11 Rick Rypien of the Vancouver Canucks, who uses technical skills to best much larger fighters.
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Here are the NHL's top fighters since the 2005-06 season, with the Elo algorithm used to adjust players' records, according to fans' votes on Hockeyfights.com.Code: Select all
PLAYER, CURRENT/LATEST TEAM WINS LOSSES TIES Georges Laraque Canadiens 32 5 6 Derek Boogaard Wild 35 11 4 D.J. King Blues 17 2 4 Donald Brashear Rangers 31 15 7 Brian McGrattan Flames 25 18 6 Wade Belak Predators 20 12 9 Colton Orr Maple Leafs 38 25 10 Raitis Ivanans Kings 25 13 10
DJ King the 3rd best fighter in the league?
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The Wall Street Journal (!) sez so:
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Two losses...underachiever....Cam did that in the last game.
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Re: DJ King the 3rd best fighter in the league?
DJ is technically second since Laraque isn't in the league anymore..
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He is second since Laraque does not play for anybody
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How do I view the rankings on the hockeyfights webpage? I can't seem to figure out how.
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I know the Canadiens said they weren't going to play him anymore, did they outright release him?
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Dismissed by the Montreal Canadiens.Prngr44 wrote:I know the Canadiens said they weren't going to play him anymore, did they outright release him?
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Git eberybody on that list leeeeri!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Best thread ever!!! Can't wait til DJ returns...then breaks his hand on someone else head.
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When healthy, DJ's a beast. I love that pic of him fighting where he looks like he wants to eat his opponent's children...
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DaDitka wrote:Two losses...underachiever....Cam did that in the last game.
At least Cam has been there to fight..
Can you just give it up already? You hate Cam we get it.
But really, he is a bad ass.. Get over it.
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King is bad ass, we all know that.section319 wrote:DaDitka wrote:Two losses...underachiever....Cam did that in the last game.
At least Cam has been there to fight..
Can you just give it up already? You hate Cam we get it.
But really, he is a bad ass.. Get over it.
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I never said he wasn't, but I feel the need to stick up for Cam.
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I don't see how you can list guys on the best of list when they aren't even playing in the NHL right now. Just my opinion.
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I can buy King being 2nd/3rd best in the league...he's damn good.
It would be nice if he could score a half a dozen goals a season as well.
It would be nice if he could score a half a dozen goals a season as well.
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Well if he would stay healthy he could produce more than bam bam cam.cprice12 wrote:I can buy King being 2nd/3rd best in the league...he's damn good.
It would be nice if he could score a half a dozen goals a season as well.
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I've never seen Reed Lowe lose a fight....
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he was damn good. did he retire only because nobody wanted him or was he injured? Seems odd... he was one of the best fighters in the league during his time in the NHL.xbleed83bluex wrote:I've never seen Reed Lowe lose a fight....
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