Maple Leaf Blockbuster Trades

Discuss the St. Louis Blues, the NHL, or anything hockey. (Formerly the Blues News Forum)

Moderator: LGB Mods

Post Reply
User avatar
WaukeeBlues
Hockey God
Hockey God
Posts: 6163
Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:00 pm
Location: Phi Alpha

Maple Leaf Blockbuster Trades

Post by WaukeeBlues »

Burke's been busy:

1st Trade

Maple Leafs Get:
Dion Phaneuf
Fredrik Sjostrom
Keith Aulie

Flames Get:
Matt Stajan
Niklas Hagman
Jamal Mayers
Ian White

2nd Trade

Maple Leafs Get:
Jean-Sebastien Giguere

Ducks Get:
Vesa Toskala
Jason Blake

... and as a result the Ducks signed Jonas Hiller to a 4-year extension.

Crazy huh.
Official 2021-2022 LGB Sponsor of Torey Krug
Official 2021 LGB Sponsor of Brayden Schenn
Official 2018-2019 LGB Sponsor of Jaden Schwartz
2018 LGB Playoff Challenge Champ
Official 2017-2018 LGB Sponsor of Vladimir Tarasenko
Official 2016-2017 LGB Sponsor of Scottie Upshall
Official 2015-2016 LGB Sponsor of Kevin Shattenkirk

User avatar
gaijin
Hall Of Fame
Hall Of Fame
Posts: 4820
Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2003 7:46 pm
Location: Peterson AFB, CO

Re: Maple Leaf Blockbuster Trades

Post by gaijin »

Not really sure what to think. Why is Toronto (last in the East) trading for some of the biggest veteran names? :?:
Image

hullisgod
2nd Line Scorer
2nd Line Scorer
Posts: 288
Joined: Sat Jan 17, 2004 6:12 am
Location: Toronto, Ontario

Re: Maple Leaf Blockbuster Trades

Post by hullisgod »

Phaneuf is only 24, not sure what you mean by Veteran. Toskala was run out of town, and unloading Blakes contract at the same time was a pretty shrewd move. Cant believe Calgary traded Phaneuf, although they are deep on the blue line and need scoring.

fargoblues
LGB Booster - Yellow
LGB Booster - Yellow
Posts: 1886
Joined: Wed Jul 23, 2003 9:02 pm
Location: In Fargo, eh?

Re: Maple Leaf Blockbuster Trades

Post by fargoblues »

I would have loved to see Phaneuf donning the Note. Also would have loved to see Jason Blake playing for the Blues as well. Huge gets for Toronto. Calgary looks like they're panicking a little bit. Anaheim was just unloading a little bit.
Official LGB Sponsor of Bernie Federko's Stonewashed Jeans, Custom Cabinets, and cold Busch Light.

User avatar
WaukeeBlues
Hockey God
Hockey God
Posts: 6163
Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:00 pm
Location: Phi Alpha

Re: Maple Leaf Blockbuster Trades

Post by WaukeeBlues »

I mean the only thing I can think of is Burke rolling with the "defense wins championships" mantra. He's got a very, very good defensive corps now, with the goaltending to back it up.

All things considered in the modern NHL, that's the hard part.
Official 2021-2022 LGB Sponsor of Torey Krug
Official 2021 LGB Sponsor of Brayden Schenn
Official 2018-2019 LGB Sponsor of Jaden Schwartz
2018 LGB Playoff Challenge Champ
Official 2017-2018 LGB Sponsor of Vladimir Tarasenko
Official 2016-2017 LGB Sponsor of Scottie Upshall
Official 2015-2016 LGB Sponsor of Kevin Shattenkirk

User avatar
ohio BLUES
Hockey God
Hockey God
Posts: 10347
Joined: Mon Jul 07, 2003 3:42 pm
Contact:

Re: Maple Leaf Blockbuster Trades

Post by ohio BLUES »

fargoblues wrote:I would have loved to see Phaneuf donning the Note. Also would have loved to see Jason Blake playing for the Blues as well. Huge gets for Toronto. Calgary looks like they're panicking a little bit. Anaheim was just unloading a little bit.
I dunno, Jason Blake seems like the epitome of a do-nothing NHLer.

Although he would probably be a good fit for the do-nothing Blues.
Official LGB.com Sponsor of Gymrat Ken Hitchcock

User avatar
WaukeeBlues
Hockey God
Hockey God
Posts: 6163
Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:00 pm
Location: Phi Alpha

Re: Maple Leaf Blockbuster Trades

Post by WaukeeBlues »

ohio BLUES wrote:
fargoblues wrote:I would have loved to see Phaneuf donning the Note. Also would have loved to see Jason Blake playing for the Blues as well. Huge gets for Toronto. Calgary looks like they're panicking a little bit. Anaheim was just unloading a little bit.
I dunno, Jason Blake seems like the epitome of a do-nothing NHLer.

Although he would probably be a good fit for the do-nothing Blues.
Would have gladly parted with Kariya + Jackman/Brewer + 2nd rounder for him.

Maybe the Flames hadn't been watching any Blues games the last 2 seasons :ninja:
Official 2021-2022 LGB Sponsor of Torey Krug
Official 2021 LGB Sponsor of Brayden Schenn
Official 2018-2019 LGB Sponsor of Jaden Schwartz
2018 LGB Playoff Challenge Champ
Official 2017-2018 LGB Sponsor of Vladimir Tarasenko
Official 2016-2017 LGB Sponsor of Scottie Upshall
Official 2015-2016 LGB Sponsor of Kevin Shattenkirk

User avatar
richtedm
All-Star
All-Star
Posts: 1685
Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 5:02 pm
Location: Dallass
Contact:

Re: Maple Leaf Blockbuster Trades

Post by richtedm »

Rumors of Calgary shipping off Jokinen and Prust for Higgins and Kotalik have been going about... but I guess the counter-rumor is Kotalik doesnt want to wave his no trade clause.

Calgary is stirring the pot.
Official All-Time Co-Sponsor of Cam Janssen

Image

User avatar
DaDitka
Hall Of Fame
Hall Of Fame
Posts: 2800
Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:21 pm
Location: sailing with the Captain

Re: Maple Leaf Blockbuster Trades

Post by DaDitka »

WaukeeBlues wrote:
Maybe the Flames hadn't been watching any Blues games the last 2 seasons :ninja:
Hopefully they have dish. :okman:
Image

2012-2013 Official LGB Sponsor of Patrik 'Bulan' Berglund

SteveO
LGB Booster - Blue
LGB Booster - Blue
Posts: 5513
Joined: Thu Feb 20, 2003 7:08 am
Location: Section 306
Contact:

Re: Maple Leaf Blockbuster Trades

Post by SteveO »

ohio BLUES wrote: I dunno, Jason Blake seems like the epitome of a do-nothing NHLer.
I heard he's a cancer in the locker room.

Oz-iz-God
1st Line Sniper
1st Line Sniper
Posts: 838
Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:27 pm
Location: Columbia
Contact:

Re: Maple Leaf Blockbuster Trades

Post by Oz-iz-God »

That's all it took for Phaneuf?

I guess Stajan's the centerpiece, but is he really much better than a guy like Steen or McClement? He's a solid 2nd center on his best day. Hagman's past his prime and is little more than a supplemental scorer. Jamal is Jamal. Ian White's a solid player, but by no means a difference maker. He's a solid 2nd team PP quarterback and that's about it.

That's a poopoo platter of 2nd and 3rd liners for arguably the most talented young D-man in the league? Hell, the Flames even gave up a solid prospect in Aulie.

I hate to do it, but "where you you Leeeeeeeeery?!?!"

That's a package we easily could have, and should have, trumped.
[Aode] 10:34 pm: well, if I find cornhole anywhere, I'll try it and let you know

It could always be worse, I could be a Cubs fan. (But please, if you could spare me the parallels between the respective organizations, I'd really appreciate it).

User avatar
richtedm
All-Star
All-Star
Posts: 1685
Joined: Thu May 10, 2007 5:02 pm
Location: Dallass
Contact:

Re: Maple Leaf Blockbuster Trades

Post by richtedm »

Prngr44 wrote:
ohio BLUES wrote: I dunno, Jason Blake seems like the epitome of a do-nothing NHLer.
I heard he's a cancer in the locker room.
I'm in a keeper league with some die-hard Leaf's fans and they think hes one of the most selfish players they've ever seen. None of them were sad to see him go.
Official All-Time Co-Sponsor of Cam Janssen

Image

User avatar
WaukeeBlues
Hockey God
Hockey God
Posts: 6163
Joined: Sun Apr 08, 2007 3:00 pm
Location: Phi Alpha

Re: Maple Leaf Blockbuster Trades

Post by WaukeeBlues »

Oz-iz-God wrote:That's all it took for Phaneuf?

I guess Stajan's the centerpiece, but is he really much better than a guy like Steen or McClement? He's a solid 2nd center on his best day. Hagman's past his prime and is little more than a supplemental scorer. Jamal is Jamal. Ian White's a solid player, but by no means a difference maker. He's a solid 2nd team PP quarterback and that's about it.

That's a poopoo platter of 2nd and 3rd liners for arguably the most talented young D-man in the league? Hell, the Flames even gave up a solid prospect in Aulie.

I hate to do it, but "where you you Leeeeeeeeery?!?!"

That's a package we easily could have, and should have, trumped.
When I was reading a report on TSN they made a lot out of the fact that Phaneuf wasn't really getting any better in Calgary- almost like he was playing 70-80% of his potential and was fine with it. This trade was justified as him needing to get a change and hopefully actually, really, improve.

And yea we could've beat that deal but it's not like the Calgary GM emailed the 28 others going "anyone wanna top this?" And Stajan could be a big player moving forward
Official 2021-2022 LGB Sponsor of Torey Krug
Official 2021 LGB Sponsor of Brayden Schenn
Official 2018-2019 LGB Sponsor of Jaden Schwartz
2018 LGB Playoff Challenge Champ
Official 2017-2018 LGB Sponsor of Vladimir Tarasenko
Official 2016-2017 LGB Sponsor of Scottie Upshall
Official 2015-2016 LGB Sponsor of Kevin Shattenkirk

kodos
Hockey God
Hockey God
Posts: 11892
Joined: Thu Feb 20, 2003 7:05 pm

Re: Maple Leaf Blockbuster Trades

Post by kodos »

That's what I don't get. Is moving to a bad team going to really motivate Phaneuf? Some players are special because they have a hunger that drives them. Oshie without the hustle and drive is nothing. Ovetchkin without the passion is a 30 goal guy. Some players have raw talent and some need that internal fire to succeed. When the fire goes, they lose their specialness.

I'm guessing he didn't get along with people who were bigger then he was. (cough cough Iginla)

It seems like a small price to get him, but from what I understand, the real gem of the bunch is Ian White.

I honestly have no idea about the quality of any of the Leafs players, since I really don't pay attention to other teams like I used too.
Image

User avatar
the knob
LGB Booster - Yellow
LGB Booster - Yellow
Posts: 11652
Joined: Fri Feb 21, 2003 12:28 pm
Location: Columbia, MO

Re: Maple Leaf Blockbuster Trades

Post by the knob »

Prngr44 wrote:
ohio BLUES wrote: I dunno, Jason Blake seems like the epitome of a do-nothing NHLer.
I heard he's a cancer in the locker room.
I see what you did there.

SteveO
LGB Booster - Blue
LGB Booster - Blue
Posts: 5513
Joined: Thu Feb 20, 2003 7:08 am
Location: Section 306
Contact:

Re: Maple Leaf Blockbuster Trades

Post by SteveO »

the knob wrote:
Prngr44 wrote:
ohio BLUES wrote: I dunno, Jason Blake seems like the epitome of a do-nothing NHLer.
I heard he's a cancer in the locker room.
I see what you did there.
At least SOMEBODY did.

Post Reply