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Postby STLADOGG » Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:34 pm

I wonder if the Blues will have a new alternative jersey when they resume play to try and draw fans and revenue.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby cardsfan04 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:42 pm

Gary Bettman is the worst commissioner in the history of sports. Such a joke.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby STLADOGG » Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:05 pm

cardsfan04 wrote:Gary Bettman is the worst commissioner in the history of sports. Such a joke.

He thought he was being booed before.......wait till next Stanley Cup ceremony.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby philco_3 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:51 pm

STLADOGG wrote:
cardsfan04 wrote:Gary Bettman is the worst commissioner in the history of sports. Such a joke.

He thought he was being booed before.......wait till next Stanley Cup ceremony.


There has to a next season first before that happens.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby gaijin » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:26 am

STLADOGG wrote:
cardsfan04 wrote:Gary Bettman is the worst commissioner in the history of sports. Such a joke.

He thought he was being booed before.......wait till next Stanley Cup ceremony.


I'm no fan of Bettman or his vision of how he wants the NHL to be, but I'm also not sure of his role (or level of responsibility) in this lockout. How much of this is his fault? Should we have the same level of hatred toward the President of the Players' Association?
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby cardsfan04 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:42 am

gaijin wrote:
STLADOGG wrote:
cardsfan04 wrote:Gary Bettman is the worst commissioner in the history of sports. Such a joke.

He thought he was being booed before.......wait till next Stanley Cup ceremony.


I'm no fan of Bettman or his vision of how he wants the NHL to be, but I'm also not sure of his role (or level of responsibility) in this lockout. How much of this is his fault? Should we have the same level of hatred toward the President of the Players' Association?


Fehr is a problem too for sure. He was behind the 1994 baseball strike and clearly does not care about games being cancelled. His only concern is to try to get the best deal for the players. I don't like it, and I think he deserves some of the blame. But, I think there's a difference between his role and Bettman's. Bettman's job isn't just to represent the owners. It is to look out for the welfare of the league as a whole, which goes beyond the interests of the owners. As a result, I think he holds more of the responsibility, just as any commissioner would in a work stoppage.

This is the third work stoppage under Bettman. In that time frame, I believe the MLB, NBA, and NFL have had a combined four work stoppages, and none cancelled an entire season. Above all else, the job of a commissioner is to make sure games are played. He has other responsibilities, but that one trumps all. And, he has failed . . . three times. That's a really bad track record.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby STLADOGG » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:15 pm

gaijin wrote:
STLADOGG wrote:
cardsfan04 wrote:Gary Bettman is the worst commissioner in the history of sports. Such a joke.

He thought he was being booed before.......wait till next Stanley Cup ceremony.


I'm no fan of Bettman or his vision of how he wants the NHL to be, but I'm also not sure of his role (or level of responsibility) in this lockout. How much of this is his fault? Should we have the same level of hatred toward the President of the Players' Association?

Yes.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby ViPeRx007 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:58 pm

It's easier to just hate everybody. That's what I do.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby gaijin » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:09 am

Update (of sorts):

League, players' union to meet again

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/league-players-union-meet-again-213257147--nhl.html

I feel a big fat turd resulting from these meetings again. Or maybe it's just dinner from last night.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby cprice12 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:06 am

The fact that they were meeting so late into the night (midnight on east coast) is encouraging to say the least.
The NHLPA then had a conference call on Sunday, and the two sides are meeting again tomorrow.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The entire season will not be cancelled.
They'll be playing in December.
We'll play around 60 games using an "inter-conference-only" schedule...(which is what they should be playing anyway).
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby gaijin » Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:59 pm

cprice12 wrote:The fact that they were meeting so late into the night (midnight on east coast) is encouraging to say the least.
The NHLPA then had a conference call on Sunday, and the two sides are meeting again tomorrow.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The entire season will not be cancelled.
They'll be playing in December.
We'll play around 60 games using an "inter-conference-only" schedule...(which is what they should be playing anyway).


You mean intra-conference?
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby philco_3 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:02 pm

I doubt December. Maybe 2013...January, hopefully.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby cprice12 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:30 am

philco_3 wrote:I doubt December. Maybe 2013...January, hopefully.


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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby ViPeRx007 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:30 pm

cprice12 wrote:
philco_3 wrote:I doubt December. Maybe 2013...January, hopefully.


Sig bet?


Do it, Philco. Unless you're a pansy!

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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby philco_3 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:07 pm

ViPeRx007 wrote:
cprice12 wrote:
philco_3 wrote:I doubt December. Maybe 2013...January, hopefully.


Sig bet?


Do it, Philco. Unless you're a pansy!

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Sure why not. I dont think the NHL would have canceled the Winter Classic though
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby cprice12 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:24 pm

Allright then.
I say they'll start playing no later than December 31st.
You say if they start playing, it will be January 1st or later.
Cool?

Loser displays a sig of the other's choosing (within the site guidelines of course) for...say...a month or so? Until Feb. 1st?

What say you?
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby STLADOGG » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:51 pm

cprice12 wrote:Allright then.
I say they'll start playing no later than December 31st.
You say if they start playing, it will be January 1st or later.
Cool?

Loser displays a sig of the other's choosing (within the site guidelines of course) for...say...a month or so? Until Feb. 1st?

What say you?

Go Curt!!... no offense..
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby philco_3 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:35 pm

cprice12 wrote:Allright then.
I say they'll start playing no later than December 31st.
You say if they start playing, it will be January 1st or later.
Cool?

Loser displays a sig of the other's choosing (within the site guidelines of course) for...say...a month or so? Until Feb. 1st?

What say you?


sounds fair sir
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby Portland Blues » Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:49 pm

Just read that meeting broke down after 90 minutes today with no new talks scheduled.

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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby glen a richter » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:56 pm

:facepalm: What else should we have expected?
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