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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby Portland Blues » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:58 am

ViPeRx007 wrote:
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ViPeRx007 wrote:
glen a richter wrote:
ViPeRx007 wrote:Gary Bettman is to being the NHL commissioner as Marc Bergevin is to scoring own goals in the playoffs.


So in your analogy you're saying that Bettman is good at being the commissioner?


:cry:

I suck at analogies.


Gary Bettman is to being commissioner as Viper is to analogies.

:lol:


I deserve this. Nice analogy btw.

:lol:


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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby glen a richter » Thu Dec 20, 2012 6:48 pm

I do believe somebody just lost a sig bet given the cancellation of games up to January 14th now.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby Portland Blues » Thu Dec 20, 2012 7:25 pm

glen a richter wrote:I do believe somebody just lost a sig bet given the cancellation of games up to January 14th now.


Curt is to sig bets as Viper is to analogies. :lol:
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby philco_3 » Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:19 pm

glen a richter wrote:I do believe somebody just lost a sig bet given the cancellation of games up to January 14th now.


:lol:
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby ViPeRx007 » Fri Dec 21, 2012 2:37 pm

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glen a richter wrote:I do believe somebody just lost a sig bet given the cancellation of games up to January 14th now.


Curt is to sig bets as Viper is to analogies. :lol:


Ok, come on!
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby Portland Blues » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:19 am

ViPeRx007 wrote:
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glen a richter wrote:I do believe somebody just lost a sig bet given the cancellation of games up to January 14th now.


Curt is to sig bets as Viper is to analogies. :lol:


Ok, come on!


Sorry. :grin:

See what happens when we don't have hockey?

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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby glen a richter » Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:42 am

Merry Christmas everyone
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby Portland Blues » Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:44 pm

glen a richter wrote:Merry Christmas everyone


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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby cardsfan04 » Fri Dec 28, 2012 10:54 am

Not that it matters, but NHL made a new proposal this morning:

Details of the new offer include:

• Term limit on player contracts moves to six years from the five years NHL asked in previous offers (seven years if you're re-signing your own player).

• Year-to-year salary variance moves from 5 percent (NHL's previous offers) to 10 percent.

• Each team will be allowed one compliance buyout before the 2013-14 season that will not count against the salary cap but will count against the players' share.

• The Make Whole provision stays at $300 million.


This is from a player source to ESPN (who spoke on condition of anonymity) and unconfirmed by Bill Daly. Trying really hard not to get my hopes up. But, they should already have been close enough to get a deal and this lessens the divide even more.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby STLADOGG » Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:01 am

The Fehr bastards will turn it down for sure. We wont have hockey till they are gone.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby theohall » Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:36 pm

The league moved significantly with this offer. If the NHLPA rejects this, screw it. This one actually makes sense and fits "most" of the players demands. I particularly like this addition:'

- New Player Discipline procedures and protocol incorporating Player appeal rights to a neutral third-party arbitrator for both on-ice and off-ice discipline.


No more "Brendan Shanahan" or "so and so individual" gets away with making decisions solely by him/her self.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby cprice12 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:45 am

Rumor has it that the owners have told Bettman to "get it done".

So we shall see. This seems to be a sort of hail mary attempt to save a 40+ game season.

I'm numb to it all now. I grew so frustrated and disappointed that in mid December I gave up and stopped hawking over every tweet and news article on TSN.
Don't get me wrong, I know I want hockey back...but my heart just isn't in it right now because of all of the crap over the past 100+ days of the lockout. I'm just tired of it. I don't think I will realize how much I want it back until the the puck drops on the first game.

I'm not spending a dime on hockey for however many days as I am on board with the "Just Drop It" boycott...well, all except for the part about not watching games on tv. I'm still going to watch on tv...but no Center Ice for me or tickets to games, merchandise, etc for the specified time, whatever that would be.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby theohall » Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:07 am

I am still watching the World Juniors on NHLN. No matter what, I will end up watching hockey, simply because I cannot stand the National Boring Association and the asshats hanging on rims for no reason with no consequence in that idiotic league's current format.

I just wonder which owners stepped up and told Bettman to "get it done." I bet none of them are from Boston, Minnesota, Calgary, or Washington DC. In other words the 4 ass-hats who were supposedly arguing in the league's behalf while essentially losing Toronto, Montreal, NY, and Detroit millions of dollars in revenue.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby sseagle » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:36 am

Today would be a good day... Its my birthday, lets not shit all over it you greedy pricks!

Now, lets kick the shit out of the canadians!!


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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby sseagle » Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:41 pm

Ok, well I didn't get any of the stuff I wanted for my birthday...

Can I get the Wendy's ginger to make out with the T-Mobile chick?
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby Portland Blues » Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:19 pm

sseagle wrote:Ok, well I didn't get any of the stuff I wanted for my birthday...

Can I get the Wendy's ginger to make out with the T-Mobile chick?


About to happen - can you get out here to Portland, OR in the next hour or so? :wink:
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby WaukeeBlues » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:24 am

cprice12 wrote:Rumor has it that the owners have told Bettman to "get it done".

So we shall see. This seems to be a sort of hail mary attempt to save a 40+ game season.

I'm numb to it all now. I grew so frustrated and disappointed that in mid December I gave up and stopped hawking over every tweet and news article on TSN.
Don't get me wrong, I know I want hockey back...but my heart just isn't in it right now because of all of the crap over the past 100+ days of the lockout. I'm just tired of it. I don't think I will realize how much I want it back until the the puck drops on the first game.

I'm not spending a dime on hockey for however many days as I am on board with the "Just Drop It" boycott...well, all except for the part about not watching games on tv. I'm still going to watch on tv...but no Center Ice for me or tickets to games, merchandise, etc for the specified time, whatever that would be.


:plusplus:

And now today the NHLPA has presented a "counter-proposal" which just made me groan. JUST SIGN THE DAMN THING!!! God. The counter proposal is probably (guessing) way outta whack, the owners are going to feel another impasse and just reject the counter-offer without making a new one. January 11th is basically the "red line" for the entire season. GET THE F*CKING THING DONE GUYS!!! EF
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby cardsfan04 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:58 am

sseagle wrote:Today would be a good day... Its my birthday, lets not shit all over it you greedy pricks!

Now, lets kick the shit out of the canadians!!


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Happy Birthday!

There is some reason for optimism today. Bryzgalov left his KHL team either because the lockout is ending or because he's a crazy loon that they are sick of.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby glen a richter » Mon Dec 31, 2012 12:14 pm

cardsfan04 wrote:
sseagle wrote:Today would be a good day... Its my birthday, lets not shit all over it you greedy pricks!

Now, lets kick the shit out of the canadians!!


USA!


Happy Birthday!

There is some reason for optimism today. Bryzgalov left his KHL team either because the lockout is ending or because he's a crazy loon that they are sick of.


Or because he was promised a spot on the next crew for the international space station.
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Re: Official NHL and NHLPA CBA Negotiations Thread

Postby tjk002 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:26 pm

WaukeeBlues wrote:
cprice12 wrote:Rumor has it that the owners have told Bettman to "get it done".

So we shall see. This seems to be a sort of hail mary attempt to save a 40+ game season.

I'm numb to it all now. I grew so frustrated and disappointed that in mid December I gave up and stopped hawking over every tweet and news article on TSN.
Don't get me wrong, I know I want hockey back...but my heart just isn't in it right now because of all of the crap over the past 100+ days of the lockout. I'm just tired of it. I don't think I will realize how much I want it back until the the puck drops on the first game.

I'm not spending a dime on hockey for however many days as I am on board with the "Just Drop It" boycott...well, all except for the part about not watching games on tv. I'm still going to watch on tv...but no Center Ice for me or tickets to games, merchandise, etc for the specified time, whatever that would be.


:plusplus:

And now today the NHLPA has presented a "counter-proposal" which just made me groan. JUST SIGN THE DAMN THING!!! God. The counter proposal is probably (guessing) way outta whack, the owners are going to feel another impasse and just reject the counter-offer without making a new one. January 11th is basically the "red line" for the entire season. GET THE F*CKING THING DONE GUYS!!! EF[/quote

If their offer isn't close to the owners offer. Its done. Over, and to be honest, I'm going to side with the owners on this one.
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