GDT #46: 4/23/13 > Blues vs Avs > 7:00 PM > FSMW+/Y98FM

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GDT #46: 4/23/13 > Blues vs Avs > 7:00 PM > FSMW+/Y98FM

Postby dmiles2186 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:58 am

Again. Win. In.

AVALANCHE (15-23-7) at BLUES (26-17-2)

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Last 10: Colorado 3-4-3, St. Louis 7-3-0

Season series: This is the third of three meetings. The Colorado Avalanche are going for a season-series sweep of the St. Louis Blues.

Big Story: This contest will conclude a home-and-home series between these two Western Conference rivals. The Avalanche dashed the Blues’ hopes of clinching a playoff berth with a 5-3 win on Sunday in Denver.

Team Scope:

Colorado: With just three regular-season games remaining, the Avalanche will play two road games before returning to the Pepsi Center to conclude the season at home against the Minnesota Wild on Saturday. Colorado looks to pay spoiler to the Blues for the second straight game after Jamie McGinn’s three-point performance on Sunday fueled Colorado’s 5-3 victory.

“(McGinn) was hard to play against tonight,” Colorado coach Joe Sacco told the team’s official website. “Ginner is at his best when he is physical, when he finishes his checks, when he unnerves the opposition a little bit. He can shoot it and when he gets an opportunity he can bury it, he did it in his second goal. His first goal was a lucky bounce, but you go to the net and you get rewarded.”

It was McGinn’s third multi-point game of his career and second since donning an Avalanche sweater on Feb. 27, 2012.

Colorado killed off three St. Louis power plays on Sunday, extending its penalty kill streak at home to five straight games (16-for16). Colorado ranks first in the NHL in home penalty killing percentage at 92.1 percent (82-for-89).

St. Louis: The Blues would certainly like to bounce back from a 5-3 loss to the Avalanche by defeating them on home ice Tuesday. The Blues’ three remaining regular-season games will be played on home ice.

"We didn't have one of our better games today," Blues coach Ken Hitchcock said. "We just have to regroup and get ready for Tuesday. Wasn't one of our better games. I thought our first 10 minutes were good. After that, not very good. We made too many errors in our own zone, too many mistakes with the puck in our own zone that ended up in our net."

Who's hot: Avalanche goalie Jean-Sebastien Giguere recorded his 251st career win Sunday, surpassing Hall-of-Famer Johnny Bower (250) to move into 45th place on the all-time wins list. … Blues center David Backes has three points (one goal, two assists) in as many games, including a pair of points in the Blues’ loss Sunday. He boasts a team best in assists with 20 on the season.

Injury report: Avalanche defenseman Erik Johnson has missed the past four games with a hand injury and is questionable for Tuesday. ... The Blues are without forwards Scott Nichol (lower body), T.J. Oshie (foot), Jamie Langenbrunner (hip) and goalie Jaroslav Halak (lower body).
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Re: GDT #46: 4/23/13 > Blues vs Avs > 7:00 PM > FSMW/Y98FM

Postby gaijin » Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:10 am

Just. Win.

2 points, please. :letsgoblues:
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Re: GDT #46: 4/23/13 > Blues vs Avs > 7:00 PM > FSMW/Y98FM

Postby DaDitka » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:15 am

2 points are a must.

We know we can score on these guys....I mean those three goals the other night was like a weeks worth of goals from this group.

Better passing, cleaner play in our own end, and the real Brian Elliot, and this should be a regulation win.
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Re: GDT #46: 4/23/13 > Blues vs Avs > 7:00 PM > FSMW/Y98FM

Postby STLADOGG » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:24 am

I'm not too worried about this one, the Avs are good at their place(12-8-3) and horrific away(3-15-4)
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Re: GDT #46: 4/23/13 > Blues vs Avs > 7:00 PM > FSMW+/Y98FM

Postby KrustyKevo » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:35 am

Perron playing 4th line center today. lol
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Re: GDT #46: 4/23/13 > Blues vs Avs > 7:00 PM > FSMW+/Y98FM

Postby KrustyKevo » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:37 am

Lines:
9-42-20
10-17-25
32-21-91
75-57-79

19-27
33-22
5-46

If anyone is interested
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Re: GDT #46: 4/23/13 > Blues vs Avs > 7:00 PM > FSMW+/Y98FM

Postby STLADOGG » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:02 pm

KrustyKevo wrote:Lines:
9-42-20
10-17-25
32-21-91
75-57-79

19-27
33-22
5-46

If anyone is interested

Good for 9.
Lol at 57.
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Re: GDT #46: 4/23/13 > Blues vs Avs > 7:00 PM > FSMW+/Y98FM

Postby WaukeeBlues » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:57 pm

STLADOGG wrote:
KrustyKevo wrote:Lines:
9-42-20
10-17-25
32-21-91
75-57-79

19-27
33-22
5-46

If anyone is interested

Good for 9.
Lol at 57.


:okman: also my thoughts.

That top line is a very interesting combination.
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Re: GDT #46: 4/23/13 > Blues vs Avs > 7:00 PM > FSMW+/Y98FM

Postby DaDitka » Tue Apr 23, 2013 1:21 pm

KrustyKevo wrote:Lines:
9-42-20
10-17-25
32-21-91
75-57-79

19-27
33-22
5-46



9 deserves it, 10 & 17 work well together, I've really liked 21 & 91 together.

This is probably about as good as I think I've felt about the top three lines all year. When Oshie is back either put him in for nine, then nine for 32, and 32 to the 4th line or 74 straight to the third line and 32 to the fourth.
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Re: GDT #46: 4/23/13 > Blues vs Avs > 7:00 PM > FSMW+/Y98FM

Postby KPFBlue » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:04 pm

KrustyKevo wrote:Perron playing 4th line center today. lol


That doesn't sound like a demotion at all. He's actually being moved TO our top line...

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Re: GDT #46: 4/23/13 > Blues vs Avs > 7:00 PM > FSMW+/Y98FM

Postby glen a richter » Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:38 pm

Yeah what gives with franking with the 4th line? It's the only line truly worth a damn from top to bottom. Perron will only force them to have to work harder, which will equal stupid ass mistakes and a terrible outcome.

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Re: GDT #46: 4/23/13 > Blues vs Avs > 7:00 PM > FSMW+/Y98FM

Postby sseagle » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:59 pm

57 should be doing interviews of the hockey players between intermissions...

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Re: GDT #46: 4/23/13 > Blues vs Avs > 7:00 PM > FSMW+/Y98FM

Postby Frusciante » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:58 pm

I'm more concerned as to what will happen with Cracknell when Oshie and possibly Nichol comes back. I just love what Cracknell is doing together with Reaves on that fourth line. Would hate to give that up.
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Re: GDT #46: 4/23/13 > Blues vs Avs > 7:00 PM > FSMW+/Y98FM

Postby dmiles2186 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:36 pm

PLAYOFFS!

So happy that Jay Bouwmeester has finally entered the playoff promised land.
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Re: GDT #46: 4/23/13 > Blues vs Avs > 7:00 PM > FSMW+/Y98FM

Postby sseagle » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:28 pm

Going to bed, near end of 2nd in Sissy Jose, with the North Stars up... cya all in the morning.

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Re: GDT #46: 4/23/13 > Blues vs Avs > 7:00 PM > FSMW+/Y98FM

Postby Oaklandblue » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:22 pm

Things I am hoping for:

The Blue Jackets to play AND BEAT The Hawks in the first round.

The Sharks to flake and play us. Niemi ain't holding us down and Elliott and Allen are the Dynamic Duo. Allen deserves the tandem. Don't screw with that synergy.

Feeling really good about how we're rolling. Loving Cracknell. And oh yeah, Stewart scored.

Gotta keep this up.
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Re: GDT #46: 4/23/13 > Blues vs Avs > 7:00 PM > FSMW+/Y98FM

Postby cprice12 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:58 am

Some demotion for Perron. He was on the 1st line at times and also saw PP time.
That news buzz was a bunch of nothing.
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Re: GDT #46: 4/23/13 > Blues vs Avs > 7:00 PM > FSMW+/Y98FM

Postby cardsfan04 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:19 am

Oaklandblue wrote:Things I am hoping for:

The Blue Jackets to play AND BEAT The Hawks in the first round.

The Sharks to flake and play us. Niemi ain't holding us down and Elliott and Allen are the Dynamic Duo. Allen deserves the tandem. Don't screw with that synergy.

Feeling really good about how we're rolling. Loving Cracknell. And oh yeah, Stewart scored.

Gotta keep this up.


I would go 100% with Elliott. I don't think they really have any synergy going as a tandem tbh. Since Halak got hurt, Elliott has started 11 of the 13 games and gone 9-2, allowing more than 1 goal only twice, in 11 games. That's phenomenal. Allen has gone 1-1, allowing 5 goals in 2 games (which is OK, but nowhere near the level Elliott is playing right now). I'm pleased with how Allen has played this year, and there was a point that I thought he was going to run away with the job (which was a big knee jerk on my part tbh). But, you don't give somebody playing time in the playoffs because they "deserve" it. You play whoever is playing better. There is no second criterion.
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Re: GDT #46: 4/23/13 > Blues vs Avs > 7:00 PM > FSMW+/Y98FM

Postby Oaklandblue » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:15 pm

cardsfan04 wrote:
Oaklandblue wrote:Things I am hoping for:

The Blue Jackets to play AND BEAT The Hawks in the first round.

The Sharks to flake and play us. Niemi ain't holding us down and Elliott and Allen are the Dynamic Duo. Allen deserves the tandem. Don't screw with that synergy.

Feeling really good about how we're rolling. Loving Cracknell. And oh yeah, Stewart scored.

Gotta keep this up.


I would go 100% with Elliott. I don't think they really have any synergy going as a tandem tbh. Since Halak got hurt, Elliott has started 11 of the 13 games and gone 9-2, allowing more than 1 goal only twice, in 11 games. That's phenomenal. Allen has gone 1-1, allowing 5 goals in 2 games (which is OK, but nowhere near the level Elliott is playing right now). I'm pleased with how Allen has played this year, and there was a point that I thought he was going to run away with the job (which was a big knee jerk on my part tbh). But, you don't give somebody playing time in the playoffs because they "deserve" it. You play whoever is playing better. There is no second criterion.


Brian Elliott only works well when he has someone else who can play as well as him. When it's just him, the pressure tears him apart, we have seen this.

Jaro Halak is NOT EVER going to push him enough. He can't stay healthy and his heart is NOT in St. Louis.

You say you don't give it to someone who deserves it but who is better. Jake Allen is BETTER than Jaro Halak. Period. Unlike Elliott and Halak, it was Jake Allen that came in, settled down the goaltending situation and brought back the mental toughness and faith and made quite a few intangibles possible. Elliott has someone to compete with and when Elliott has someone who walked in and stood tall, Elliott's natural instinct is to be better than them. And he has been.

Jaro Halak can NOT stay healthy long enough to make a difference for us. This is not a few years back and we're not the Habs, let's get off this train right now. Halak is many things, but he is only consistant at getting hurt.

I like how you brought you the 1-1 stand for Jake and not the rest of his stats for the season. That's really one-sided and unfair for a guy who IS our future. Halak is not. What Halak IS, is a guy eating money that deserves to be spent on Pie and Shatt.

Right now, Halak should ride pine until we need him. Let Elliott and Allen rule the pipes, they not only deserve it but they're leagues better than Jaro Halak. I'm sick of Halak and sick of people speaking highly of this fool when the guys who stood between the pipes when we needed it the most was BRIAN ELLIOTT AND JAKE ALLEN.

THEY are better. End of story.
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Re: GDT #46: 4/23/13 > Blues vs Avs > 7:00 PM > FSMW+/Y98FM

Postby cardsfan04 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:24 am

Oaklandblue wrote:
cardsfan04 wrote:
Oaklandblue wrote:Things I am hoping for:

The Blue Jackets to play AND BEAT The Hawks in the first round.

The Sharks to flake and play us. Niemi ain't holding us down and Elliott and Allen are the Dynamic Duo. Allen deserves the tandem. Don't screw with that synergy.

Feeling really good about how we're rolling. Loving Cracknell. And oh yeah, Stewart scored.

Gotta keep this up.


I would go 100% with Elliott. I don't think they really have any synergy going as a tandem tbh. Since Halak got hurt, Elliott has started 11 of the 13 games and gone 9-2, allowing more than 1 goal only twice, in 11 games. That's phenomenal. Allen has gone 1-1, allowing 5 goals in 2 games (which is OK, but nowhere near the level Elliott is playing right now). I'm pleased with how Allen has played this year, and there was a point that I thought he was going to run away with the job (which was a big knee jerk on my part tbh). But, you don't give somebody playing time in the playoffs because they "deserve" it. You play whoever is playing better. There is no second criterion.


Brian Elliott only works well when he has someone else who can play as well as him. When it's just him, the pressure tears him apart, we have seen this.

Jaro Halak is NOT EVER going to push him enough. He can't stay healthy and his heart is NOT in St. Louis.

You say you don't give it to someone who deserves it but who is better. Jake Allen is BETTER than Jaro Halak. Period. Unlike Elliott and Halak, it was Jake Allen that came in, settled down the goaltending situation and brought back the mental toughness and faith and made quite a few intangibles possible. Elliott has someone to compete with and when Elliott has someone who walked in and stood tall, Elliott's natural instinct is to be better than them. And he has been.

Jaro Halak can NOT stay healthy long enough to make a difference for us. This is not a few years back and we're not the Habs, let's get off this train right now. Halak is many things, but he is only consistant at getting hurt.

I like how you brought you the 1-1 stand for Jake and not the rest of his stats for the season. That's really one-sided and unfair for a guy who IS our future. Halak is not. What Halak IS, is a guy eating money that deserves to be spent on Pie and Shatt.

Right now, Halak should ride pine until we need him. Let Elliott and Allen rule the pipes, they not only deserve it but they're leagues better than Jaro Halak. I'm sick of Halak and sick of people speaking highly of this fool when the guys who stood between the pipes when we needed it the most was BRIAN ELLIOTT AND JAKE ALLEN.

THEY are better. End of story.


Maybe I misunderstood your previous post. I wasn't comparing Allen and Halak. I mean, I disagree with dressing Allen over a 100% healthy Halak, but I'm OK exploring trading Halak this offseason. That makes sense financially if we get a good return.

I was talking abut starts in the playoffs. I would give 100% of them to Elliott. If we're talking about next season, I don't mind an Elliott/Allen tandem.

Also, the reason I only mentioned Alen's 1-1 record is because that's the time Halak has been down. I thought you were saying they've been a really good tandem since he went down. I'd say Elliott has been on fire.
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