GDT #51: 1/25/14 > Blues @ Islanders > 12:00 PM > FSMW/KMOX

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Re: GDT #51: 1/25/14 > Blues @ Islanders > 12:00 PM > FSMW/K

Postby gaijin » Sun Jan 26, 2014 5:01 am

Some fun with numbers:

Tank's goals came at 17:17 of the first and 1:17 of the second. He now has 17 goals on the year.
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Re: GDT #51: 1/25/14 > Blues @ Islanders > 12:00 PM > FSMW/K

Postby dmiles2186 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:42 am

I always say this about the NHL's officiating. It sucks all around. They don't try to screw specific teams, they screw everybody accidentally because they aren't any better. I still feel awful for Isles fans today. I don't care what their record shows, they should have had both points from yesterday.
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Re: GDT #51: 1/25/14 > Blues @ Islanders > 12:00 PM > FSMW/K

Postby ComradeT » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:08 am

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ViPeRx007 wrote:It was a bad call, but it's not like we haven't had our share go against us. Granted, this one was at a more critical point, but still.

We got lucky. Simple as that. Anyone who says that was a kicking motion is a homer. Of course, we were also unlucky as well; 3 posts or whatever it was. It could have easily been 5-2 Blues at the end of regulation and the OT fiasco wouldn't have even transpired. Whatever. The encouraging thing to me about this game is that there were some flashes I saw of the pre-slump Blues in there; moving the puck better, getting more shots on net, etc. Sometimes it's a game of bounces, and this was definitely one of them. We had some go against us, and one big one go for us.

Hopefully they can get some more consistency back because that's the part that's lagging right now. They'll follow up a great play with something stupid.

Anyway, 2 points is 2 points. You take them any way you can. These ones were definitely in gift form though.



It was a kicking motion, anyone that says it wasn't doesn't have EYES. That puck didn't have the momentum to deflect of the skate in that direction, its simple physics and gee-ometry. But I'm a retard that says (Frank) a lot.. so what would I know?


On the ice, no much momentum is needed for things to move. Also, that seemed more like a Steen own goal to me. Vanek's skate is jammed by Steens as he tries to muscle the Austrian away from the crease.

So, SS is a homer. Shocker.
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Re: GDT #51: 1/25/14 > Blues @ Islanders > 12:00 PM > FSMW/K

Postby glen a richter » Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:12 pm

ComradeT wrote:
sseagle wrote:
ViPeRx007 wrote:It was a bad call, but it's not like we haven't had our share go against us. Granted, this one was at a more critical point, but still.

We got lucky. Simple as that. Anyone who says that was a kicking motion is a homer. Of course, we were also unlucky as well; 3 posts or whatever it was. It could have easily been 5-2 Blues at the end of regulation and the OT fiasco wouldn't have even transpired. Whatever. The encouraging thing to me about this game is that there were some flashes I saw of the pre-slump Blues in there; moving the puck better, getting more shots on net, etc. Sometimes it's a game of bounces, and this was definitely one of them. We had some go against us, and one big one go for us.

Hopefully they can get some more consistency back because that's the part that's lagging right now. They'll follow up a great play with something stupid.

Anyway, 2 points is 2 points. You take them any way you can. These ones were definitely in gift form though.



It was a kicking motion, anyone that says it wasn't doesn't have EYES. That puck didn't have the momentum to deflect of the skate in that direction, its simple physics and gee-ometry. But I'm a retard that says (Frank) a lot.. so what would I know?


On the ice, no much momentum is needed for things to move. Also, that seemed more like a Steen own goal to me. Vanek's skate is jammed by Steens as he tries to muscle the Czech away from the crease.

So, SS is a homer. Shocker.


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Re: GDT #51: 1/25/14 > Blues @ Islanders > 12:00 PM > FSMW/K

Postby ComradeT » Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:36 pm

Vanek is apparently Austrian by citizenship. Oops.
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Re: GDT #51: 1/25/14 > Blues @ Islanders > 12:00 PM > FSMW/K

Postby glen a richter » Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:46 pm

I thought Vanek was a Czeck or Check or Chezk or something like that too. Austrian? Not too many Austrians in the league, I'd imagine.
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Re: GDT #51: 1/25/14 > Blues @ Islanders > 12:00 PM > FSMW/K

Postby ComradeT » Sun Jan 26, 2014 4:54 pm

He's probably a Czech ethnically, just happened to be born/naturalized in Austria. In Europe it's almost like born in Missouri, living in NYC, Glen.
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Re: GDT #51: 1/25/14 > Blues @ Islanders > 12:00 PM > FSMW/K

Postby KPFBlue » Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:14 pm

Brett Hull won the Stanley Cup on more of a kick than that.


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Re: GDT #51: 1/25/14 > Blues @ Islanders > 12:00 PM > FSMW/K

Postby KPFBlue » Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:17 pm

Brett Hull won the Stanley Cup on more of a kick than that.


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Re: GDT #51: 1/25/14 > Blues @ Islanders > 12:00 PM > FSMW/K

Postby ComradeT » Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:55 pm

Hey, KFP, I want to be a Hockey God too but double-posting just ain't fair dude!
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Re: GDT #51: 1/25/14 > Blues @ Islanders > 12:00 PM > FSMW/K

Postby ComradeT » Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:56 pm

Posting twice to finish your thought is fair game though :ninja:
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Re: GDT #51: 1/25/14 > Blues @ Islanders > 12:00 PM > FSMW/K

Postby sseagle » Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:00 pm

ITS ABOUT MOTHER (Frank) TIME!

http://deadspin.com/thomas-vaneks-game- ... 1509006595

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Re: GDT #51: 1/25/14 > Blues @ Islanders > 12:00 PM > FSMW/K

Postby ViPeRx007 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:13 pm

If anything it was Steen's foot slamming into Vanek's that caused any perceived forward momentum. Even with that it was so minimal that it's hard for me to see any clear intent on Vanek's part to kick it in. Typically these situations favor the scoring team because it has to be completely conclusive to be overturned. I know it went to Toronto and I'm sure a lot of eyes looked at this and made the call, but it doesn't seem right to me. There's so much gray area with this play that, I don't know how they were able to conclude without any doubt that it was intentionally kicked. I guess I'm not a real Blues fan....
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Re: GDT #51: 1/25/14 > Blues @ Islanders > 12:00 PM > FSMW/K

Postby cprice12 » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:33 pm

KPFBlue wrote:Brett Hull won the Stanley Cup on more of a kick than that.


Just sayin.


Hull kicked it to his stick, then shot it in.

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Re: GDT #51: 1/25/14 > Blues @ Islanders > 12:00 PM > FSMW/K

Postby gaijin » Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:54 pm

sseagle wrote:ITS ABOUT MOTHER (Frank) TIME!

http://deadspin.com/thomas-vaneks-game- ... 1509006595

FINALLY, WE ARE THE CHOSEN ONES!


Not sure if "League Bias" in this case means the League is biased toward the Blues, or against the Islanders... I'm betting Vanek means the latter.

This issue really comes down to the "conclusive evidence" requirement to overturn a call on the ice. In this case, I don't think the video provides conclusive evidence of a distinct kicking motion. I think if the call on the ice had been no-goal, it would have stood, because the video was inconclusive. But since the on-ice call was good goal, I'm shocked they reversed the call based on this video evidence.
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