Free Agent Moves and Major Trades
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:36 am
Thought I'd start a thread for us to use this summer to track the free agent moves around the NHL and any other major trades.
Discuss the St. Louis Blues, the NHL, or whatever.
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Shocked they moved Teravainen. But that maybe part of the impact of Panarin where Teravainen likely would have been playing had Panarin not shown up and done his thing.ecbm wrote:Alright then.
Chicago sends Bryan Bickell (and his $4M cap hit) and Teuvo Teravainen to Carolina for a 2nd in 2016 (50th overall, from the Rangers) and a 3rd in 2017.
Francis did some good business essentially turning Staal & next year's third rounder into Teravainen, a 2nd and a decent prospect. The read for Chicago is that this helps in retaining Shaw/Ladd. Could work for both but I dare say this is a part of the pinch of Kane's & Toews' deals. I'd have bought out Bickell as I think Teravainen probably has more to contribute than Ladd going forward.
Sure but given how top-heavy they are in terms of salary you'd think they'd want to squeeze every last drop from young, effective, cost-controlled players. Put it this way-the emergence of Fabbri has in no way made me want to trade Schwartz. It's way too high a price to pay to shed Bickell-who only had one year left on his deal anyway. It looks like they're straight-up choosing older FAs over Teravainen. Very Hitchcock.theohall wrote:Shocked they moved Teravainen. But that maybe part of the impact of Panarin where Teravainen likely would have been playing had Panarin not shown up and done his thing.
They had to get that Bickell contract off their books. Had to. If that meant moving a young guy to get it done then that's just what had to happen. The sting is a little less for them since, as you point out, Panarin has emerged and will look to get paid next summer too.theohall wrote:Shocked they moved Teravainen. But that maybe part of the impact of Panarin where Teravainen likely would have been playing had Panarin not shown up and done his thing.ecbm wrote:Alright then.
Chicago sends Bryan Bickell (and his $4M cap hit) and Teuvo Teravainen to Carolina for a 2nd in 2016 (50th overall, from the Rangers) and a 3rd in 2017.
Francis did some good business essentially turning Staal & next year's third rounder into Teravainen, a 2nd and a decent prospect. The read for Chicago is that this helps in retaining Shaw/Ladd. Could work for both but I dare say this is a part of the pinch of Kane's & Toews' deals. I'd have bought out Bickell as I think Teravainen probably has more to contribute than Ladd going forward.
Then Penguins were in a similar position last off-season with almost half of their salary cap tied up in just 4 players and having very little room to fill out something like 10-12 players. They won the damn Cup under that constraint.WaukeeBlues wrote:For the first time I truly wonder how the Blackhawks are going to flesh out this roster this summer, honestly. As of June 18, all according to NHLnumbers.com, the Hawks have 8 forwards and 5 defensemen under contract for next year and $8.6 million in cap space.
My amazing math skills tell me that just to get a full team on the ice with nobody in the press box that's $1.72 million per player. Shaw's cap hit was $2 million and he's most likely going to be looking for a raise so when you consider that... Bowman is really going to have to find himself some bargains out there or suit up some kids on entry level deals. Speaking of which there was talk on NHL network radio the other day that Nick Schmaltz (our Jordan's younger brother) could make the jump straight into the Hawks lineup this year.
That's exactly it - we knew that to dump Bickell we had to give up something good. I'm not upset losing Teuvo - I wasn't impressed with him so I like this deal. Shaw may be resign able for less money per year in exchange for a longer deal - ie 5 yearsWaukeeBlues wrote: They had to get that Bickell contract off their books. Had to. If that meant moving a young guy to get it done then that's just what had to happen. The sting is a little less for them since, as you point out, Panarin has emerged and will look to get paid next summer too.
True, and that's my point. To have to move such a potentially useful player for one year of mid-to-large cap hit ($4M) doesn't strike me as ideal or totally voluntary. If anyone can make, though, it work it's Bowman.WaukeeBlues wrote:They had to get that Bickell contract off their books. Had to. If that meant moving a young guy to get it done then that's just what had to happen.
Interesting perspective. I could see doing it for Shaw but I don't know. I think it's possible you lose him anyway. I certainly wouldn't have parted with Teravainen for Ladd. I've never seen what most people see in him.Kerfuffle wrote:That's exactly it - we knew that to dump Bickell we had to give up something good. I'm not upset losing Teuvo - I wasn't impressed with him so I like this deal. Shaw may be resign able for less money per year in exchange for a longer deal - ie 5 years
True but they also received some unexpected depth and quality play from cheap entry level players on both offense (Rust, Khunackl, Sheary) and defense (everyone but Letang and Daley). It's the first cup champion I remember with a "no name" defense. To a man they all played out of their minds. Lovejoy is about to get paid because of it. I don't think the Hawks have that kind of cheap and readily available type of depth.theohall wrote:Then Penguins were in a similar position last off-season with almost half of their salary cap tied up in just 4 players and having very little room to fill out something like 10-12 players. They won the damn Cup under that constraint.WaukeeBlues wrote:For the first time I truly wonder how the Blackhawks are going to flesh out this roster this summer, honestly. As of June 18, all according to NHLnumbers.com, the Hawks have 8 forwards and 5 defensemen under contract for next year and $8.6 million in cap space.
My amazing math skills tell me that just to get a full team on the ice with nobody in the press box that's $1.72 million per player. Shaw's cap hit was $2 million and he's most likely going to be looking for a raise so when you consider that... Bowman is really going to have to find himself some bargains out there or suit up some kids on entry level deals. Speaking of which there was talk on NHL network radio the other day that Nick Schmaltz (our Jordan's younger brother) could make the jump straight into the Hawks lineup this year.
They traded Reimer so Bernier's the only other goalie on their roster with NHL experience. If they have a kid they trust or get a scrap heap backup he'd be a nice piece for them to play-$4.1M owed to him for one more year. Looking at what goalies are getting, I'm guessing someone would be interested.WaukeeBlues wrote:I'm curious what Lou is gonna do in Toronto with his goaltending situation. He just gave up two rather high picks to land Frederick Andersen. There's no way he would surrender those types of assets without every intention of making him the starter. Or so I would think.
Bernier is on the block now? One would think.
The '06 Hurricanes D were pretty no-name. I think this will become more and more common.WaukeeBlues wrote:It's the first cup champion I remember with a "no name" defense.
No chance. Zero. Money freed up will be going directly to definitely Schwartz and maybe Backes. There won't be any big FA splashes on this team for quite a while.Kerfuffle wrote:Do you think Armstrong is going to try and sign Stamkos? A sign would be freeing up salary to accommodate him. So far rumor is he goes to Detroit but I always thought St Louis was in play for him as well.
If my choice was between spending the same amount of dollars and cap on either re-signing Schwartz and Backes or signing Stamkos, assuming he was willing too, I would go for latter, no question about it.glen a richter wrote:No chance. Zero. Money freed up will be going directly to definitely Schwartz and maybe Backes. There won't be any big FA splashes on this team for quite a while.Kerfuffle wrote:Do you think Armstrong is going to try and sign Stamkos? A sign would be freeing up salary to accommodate him. So far rumor is he goes to Detroit but I always thought St Louis was in play for him as well.