Kramer drops the n bomb on stage...

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Postby Leedog » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:09 pm

sanscrit wrote:
Leedog wrote:wwwaaaaaaaaa...... He said nigger. Get over it. Now comedy shows have to be politically correct? Next will they have to apologize to blondes for telling blonde jokes?
Bad timing, though. I guess they just released another season of Seinfeld on DVD. Jerry was on Letterman to promo that and they made him grovel over a satellite feed...Damage control.


i think you need to watch the video.. he didnt just say the "n-word".

seriously. watch it before you comment.


I saw the video several times and still hold the same opinion. Seriously. Would there be this uproar if the hecklers were fat and he called them fatasses? Or blondes? Or Dagos? Or Polacks? Ya know, there prolly would because everyone has to whine like lil bitches. Shut up and go wash your vag.
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Postby flgtr96 » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:27 pm

TC wrote:
sanscrit wrote:
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mdc312 wrote:im surprised hes still doin standup. if i were him with all that cheese id be chillin in the caribbean or something.


Luckily that Plan B is about to go in effect.


by "plan b" do you mean kramer's "final solution?"

zyklon-b > junior mints



You must have missed his brilliant tv career after Seinfeld.


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Postby goon attack » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:57 pm

Leedog wrote:I saw the video several times and still hold the same opinion. Seriously. Would there be this uproar if the hecklers were fat and he called them fatasses? Or blondes? Or Dagos? Or Polacks? Ya know, there prolly would because everyone has to whine like lil bitches. Shut up and go wash your vag.


I agree 100%.

It's complete bullsihit for ANY group to have immunity in regard to comedy. Of course, this incident is being used by every wacko pc idiot as proof that america is totally and completely racist, which is a crock of sh**.

If people can make fun of mentally retarded people and get away with it, calling somebody the n-bomb in a comedy club should not warrant this BS respsonse.
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Postby ledzeppelinfan1 » Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:08 pm

I'm gonna be honest, I don't like many black people for reasons they have demonstrated through their own behavior.

There are nice black people and yes there are niggers, and I hate them. Sue me.

Just like I hate rednecks or anything else that is taken to an extreme...

I'm sure someone out there hates people just like me, and ya know what?

I couldn't care less.

And, ya know, for acting so tough like they (blacks) do, it sure is funny how whiny and sensitive they become when someone says something like this.


Just wish they'd stuff their chicken back in their mouth and shut the fk up.
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Postby sanscrit » Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:38 pm

ledzeppelinfan1 wrote:And, ya know, for acting so tough like they (blacks) do, it sure is funny how whiny and sensitive they become when someone says something like this.


you mean when someone says "this is what happens when you interrupt a white man?"

or when someone taunts them saying that had you interrupted 50 years ago you would have been lynched?

take a look at this:
http://www.liu.edu/cwis/cwp/library/afr ... nching.htm
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yeah... thats hilarious. but oh, that was FOREVER AGO!!!!!
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Postby sanscrit » Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:43 pm

Leedog wrote:I saw the video several times and still hold the same opinion. Seriously. Would there be this uproar if the hecklers were fat and he called them fatasses? Or blondes? Or Dagos? Or Polacks? Ya know, there prolly would because everyone has to whine like lil bitches. Shut up and go wash your vag.


when did blondes get the right to vote? when did fat people get to drink out of the same water fountains as everyone else? your examples aren't even in the same league.

When you taunt someone by bringing up the fact that, in REALITY, a few decades ago they could have been MURDERED for being such a "mouthy nigger" you cross just about every possible line of decency there is.

why dont you go lynch a nigger for being so whiny.

i can get over him just calling them names. but what he did was completely and totally reprehensible.
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Postby ledzeppelinfan1 » Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:45 pm

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ledzeppelinfan1 wrote:And, ya know, for acting so tough like they (blacks) do, it sure is funny how whiny and sensitive they become when someone says something like this.


you mean when someone says "this is what happens when you interrupt a white man?"

or when someone taunts them saying that had you interrupted 50 years ago you would have been lynched?

take a look at this:
http://www.liu.edu/cwis/cwp/library/afr ... nching.htm
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yeah... thats hilarious. but oh, that was FOREVER AGO!!!!!


Regardless of how I feel about some black people, I do not mean to say that I agree with the mistreatment of black people or any people, for that matter.

I'm just sick of things like this being blown out of proportion...

especially when I CANT COUNT how many times I've seen black people make fun of whites while doing standup.

It gets old.
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Postby sanscrit » Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:47 pm

ledzeppelinfan1 wrote:especially when I CANT COUNT how many times I've seen black people make fun of whites while doing standup.


i agree 100%. when tommy davidson does his "white women" impersonation it pissed me off to no end. because if ia white guy did it, he would get burned. but you have to acknowledge that there is a line somewhere. I dont care where you think it is, michael richards crossed it.
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Postby ledzeppelinfan1 » Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:49 pm

Simply said, I just hate race issues altogether. They're tiresome and boring and we've heard it all before...

and besides that, this country has become a wonderful place for people of all cultures, everyone has their niche, and many black, white, yellow, etc., ad nauseum as made there way up into the highest positions of authority this country has to offer...

Condoleesa Rice, Colin Powell, Tiger Woods, Micheal Jackson...ok bad example, but you get my drift.

This is one mans tirade, not a sweeping prospective of the thoughts and opinions of the masses.
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Postby Philo » Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:08 pm

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Leedog wrote:I saw the video several times and still hold the same opinion. Seriously. Would there be this uproar if the hecklers were fat and he called them fatasses? Or blondes? Or Dagos? Or Polacks? Ya know, there prolly would because everyone has to whine like lil bitches. Shut up and go wash your vag.


I agree 100%.

It's complete bullsihit for ANY group to have immunity in regard to comedy. Of course, this incident is being used by every conservative talk show host as proof that America is totally and completely racist, which is a crock of sh**.

If people can make fun of mentally retarded people and get away with it, calling somebody the n-bomb in a comedy club should not warrant this BS response.




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Postby Willie the Pimp » Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:11 am

ledzeppelinfan1 wrote:And, ya know, for acting so tough like they (blacks) do, it sure is funny how whiny and sensitive they become when someone says something like this.

Just wish they'd stuff their chicken back in their mouth and shut the fk up.


I think you need to pull your dick out of your sister because you're late for your Klan meeting, Jethro. Not being black, you wouldn't know how hostile your area of the country is to black folk, although your comments show how casually comfortable with it you are. In the future when you see a brother acting hard, think of it as a concave mirror reflecting just a tiny bit of the bullshit (like your comment) that he has to put up with on a daily basis.
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Postby goon attack » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:58 am

ledzeppelinfan1 wrote:Condoleesa Rice, Colin Powell, Tiger Woods, Micheal Jackson..


They just got lucky. Every other black person will never escape the shackles of racism. :lol:
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Postby Hollywood » Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:21 am

ledzeppelinfan1 wrote:Simply said, I just hate race issues altogether. They're tiresome and boring and we've heard it all before...

and besides that, this country has become a wonderful place for people of all cultures, everyone has their niche, and many black, white, yellow, etc., ad nauseum as made there way up into the highest positions of authority this country has to offer...

This is one mans tirade, not a sweeping prospective of the thoughts and opinions of the masses.




I love how you can make both of these posts in the same thread. One mans thoughts, not the opinion of the masses....you just happen to agree.


I don't like many black people for reasons they have demonstrated through their own behavior.

There are nice black people and yes there are niggers, and I hate them. Sue me.

Just like I hate rednecks or anything else that is taken to an extreme...

I'm sure someone out there hates people just like me, and ya know what?

I couldn't care less.

And, ya know, for acting so tough like they (blacks) do, it sure is funny how whiny and sensitive they become when someone says something like this.


Just wish they'd stuff their chicken back in their mouth and shut the fk up.



You are a (Frank) douchebag.

Direct, personal attack. Straight at you.

Curt, ban me or not, but when someone says something like that, they deserve it. Facts are facts, zepfan....you are a (Frank) douchebag.
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Postby goon attack » Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:39 am

Hollywood wrote:
You are a (Frank) douchebag.

Direct, personal attack. Straight at you.

Curt, ban me or not, but when someone says something like that, they deserve it. Facts are facts, zepfan....you are a (Frank) douchebag.


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Postby Leedog » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:09 am

This whole thang isn't about the good or bad of black, afro, colored, negroe, whatever people or the use of a word. A stand up comedy act at an adult establishment, where the comedians might just work blue, where they might say adult thangs, where they might even sell adult beverages, should be the last place on earth where you need to adhere to the pc bullspit you need to on the street. Prolly every joke every comedian on that bill told could offend someone. If your skin is too thin, stay the F home. And, especially, don't heckle the guy with the microphone and not expect him to come at you with whatever tools he has at his disposal. Whether it is race, weight, freckles, being a slut, whatever. It is what makes a comedy show a comedy show. If you don't like it, stay the F home. It's not your work place. It's not the peoples airwaves. It is a place where you chose to go and paid your money to get in the door. Stay the F home if you are scared of a couple words.
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Postby goon attack » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:12 am

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Postby Hollywood » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:15 am

Leedog wrote:This whole thang isn't about the good or bad of black, afro, colored, negroe, whatever people or the use of a word. A stand up comedy act at an adult establishment, where the comedians might just work blue, where they might say adult thangs, where they might even sell adult beverages, should be the last place on earth where you need to adhere to the pc bullspit you need to on the street. Prolly every joke every comedian on that bill told could offend someone. If your skin is too thin, stay the F home. And, especially, don't heckle the guy with the microphone and not expect him to come at you with whatever tools he has at his disposal. Whether it is race, weight, freckles, being a slut, whatever. It is what makes a comedy show a comedy show. If you don't like it, stay the F home. It's not your work place. It's not the peoples airwaves. It is a place where you chose to go and paid your money to get in the door. Stay the F home if you are scared of a couple words.



I could not agree more. Richards was not trying to be funny at that point though. He was trying to be hurtful.
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Postby cprice12 » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:58 am

This morning on the Today show, I just saw the two guys that Richards was yelling at. They had them in the studio.

Get this...

They have a lawyer, and are looking for money from Richards. Give me a break. :roll:
(they also didn't accept Richards' apology...big surprise, seeing as they are seeking money from him now)


I'll say that Richards crossed the line because his rant consisted of just insulting the guys without a punchline...it was just a racist tirade.

These hecklers deserved to get a tongue lashing from Richards (like any Hecker would from a comedian) because they were yelling at him during his show. BUT, obviously Richards went over the line in his "attack".

These two guys called Richards an "F'ing Cracker". I understand that "Cracker" doesn't carry the same weight as the "N" word...but still. Why are racial insults ok from one side, but not another?

What if Michael Richards was black?
This wouldn't even be an issue...and the two guys would have probably laughed at it. Maybe I'm wrong there....but I doubt it.

Strange how that works.
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Postby sanscrit » Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:02 am

what are the grounds of the suit? did he deny them a job? :roll:
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Postby cprice12 » Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:21 am

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I've let a lot go in this thread because the subject matter (right or wrong) is touchy and is a current event.

Discuss the thread, but stay away from the personal insults.

People are going to have differing issues here, that's a fact. But if you respond in anger by insulting each other, this thread will get locked.

You guys can disagree without the insults.

Let's try that.
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