Per Strickland; Weight/Birner/8th for Andy McDonald

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Postby ohio BLUES » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:38 pm

cprice12 wrote:Over at the Ducks official forum, it seems to be about half and half...some are happy about the deal, others are not.

Some seem to think that Weight will put up good numbers with Bertuzzi.

In here...everyone seems to be delirious with joy.

I honestly don't see how anyone can think the Ducks got the better of this deal.

Maybe they haven't exactly followed the depths of Weight's fall? Maybe they are trying to be optimistic? Who knows.

I would compare it to trading away Brewer. We'd all love it (save for ksbrewerfan), and so too would the fans of our trading partner... based of course off his past play as an Oiler and for Team Canada of course.

Edit: A horse is a horse :lol:
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Postby WaukeeBlues » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:39 pm

ohio BLUES wrote:
cprice12 wrote:Over at the Ducks official forum, it seems to be about half and half...some are happy about the deal, others are not.

Some seem to think that Weight will put up good numbers with Bertuzzi.

In here...everyone seems to be delirious with joy.

I honestly don't see how anyone can think the Ducks got the better of this deal.

Maybe they haven't exactly followed the depths of Weight's fall? Maybe they are trying to be optimistic? Who knows.

I would compare it to trading away Brewer. We'd all love it (save for ksbrewerfan), and so too would the fans of our trading partner... based of course off his past play as an Oiler and for Team Canada of course.


:plusplus:

They probably just know he's a solid, veteran center who has won the cup and it probably ends there.
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Postby cprice12 » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:39 pm

Weight-lifting benefits Blues, Ducks
By Ray Slover - SportingNews
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You won't hear me saying anything bad about Doug Weight. He's one of the nicest guys I've met in hockey. Not that nice guys are hard to find in a sport brimming with them.

But time has passed Weight by, and he no longer is a player who can be a first-line presence. He turns 37 in January. His terrible start to the season proved, at the very least, that he no longer had a place in the St. Louis Blues' future, and he probably didn't have a place in their present.

So here's wishing Weight good luck in his next venture, as a center for the Anaheim Ducks.

When push came to shove, Blues brass decided it was time to find a way to lose Weight. Their diet? Duck. And with the Ducks needing to shed a few million dollars, the time was right for a swap.

Andy McDonald arrives in St. Louis with numbers that pale in comparison to what he posted last season, when the Ducks won the Stanley Cup. But his four goals and 12 assists in 33 games are similar to Weight's four goals and seven assists. By the way, Weight's four goals all came in the past week. And at eight years younger than Weight, McDonald should be around long after Weight has retired.

A bonus? McDonald was a linemate of Paul Kariya, the sniper the Blues added in the offseason. Finding a legitimate first-line center to play with Kariya and surprising sniper Brad Boyes should only make the Blues better. Their offense has been spotty, and they were shut out Thursday by the Florida Panthers and old nemesis Tomas Vokoun.

Both McDonald and Weight are skilled playmakers. Neither has great size -- both are 5-11.

The key for the Blues? McDonald must produce like he did last season, when he had Teemu Selanne on his line. He also had a career season in 2005-06, with 85 points. He'll hustle and bang, as well, and he gets to the front of the net. Having Kariya and Boyes on his flanks portends nothing but good.

Weight won't be expected to be the Ducks' first-line center. He probably will be the third-liner he was with the Carolina Hurricanes during their 2006 Stanley Cup run. And in an interview with Ducks media Friday, GM Brian Burke said Weight could be on a line with tough customer Todd Bertuzzi.

But the Ducks had to clear cap room for the return of Scott Niedermayer, and they had to think about next offseason, when right winger Corey Perry becomes a restricted free agent. The last thing GM Brian Burke wants is a repeat of last summer, when Perry linemate Dustin Penner got a bloated free-agent contract from the Edmonton Oilers.

Weight will be an unrestricted free agent next summer. His contract cash will be converted into bucks for Perry. A happy convergence, to say the least.

The Ducks also get another interesting young forward in Michal Birner, who was playing with the Blues' top affiliate, AHL Peoria. He's about a year away from cracking the NHL, although there's some thought he could be ready before the season ends. A seventh-round pick heading toward Anaheim is a throw-in.

A crying need for offense, especially for a first-line center to play with Kariya, makes this deal a winner for the Blues. McDonald will be a contributor both on a flimsy power play and at even strength.

As for Weight, a class act gets to spend some quality time in Anaheim. A California tan won't look bad on a Michigan lad.

Also in his interview with Ducks media, Burke said he remains quite pleased with his deep, talented defense. Niedermayer returns to make this group as strong an eight as any team can boast.

He also noted that he had several inquiries about Mathieu Schneider, who was signed as a free agent last summer oustensibly to replace Niedermayer. However, Burke said he found dealing McDonald a better fit for his team's needs. Burke said, correctly, his team's problem isn't on defense; it's in its forward corps.

Make not mistake: Niedermayer's return will boost the Ducks. But one must wonder just how much the forward corps misses Teemu Selanne, who also decided not to return to the team after its Stanley Cup triumph.

McDonald is a puck-lugger, while Weight prefers to dish and dash. Weight will work on the edges and left Bertuzzi do the mucking.

Ray Slover is an associate editor for the Sporting News. E-mail him at rslover@sportingnews.com.
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Postby WaukeeBlues » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:41 pm

Proverbial epithet on the Doug Weight Blues tombstone :cry: :(

But time has passed Weight by, and he no longer is a player who can be a first-line presence. He turns 37 in January. His terrible start to the season proved, at the very least, that he no longer had a place in the St. Louis Blues' future, and he probably didn't have a place in their present.

So here's wishing Weight good luck in his next venture, as a center for the Anaheim Ducks.


Good luck to Dougie, I wish him nothing but the absolute best
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Postby cprice12 » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:41 pm

SIU LAW wrote:
marco wrote: [marco] 11:18 pm: ALL YOUR ALGORITHMS ARE BELONG TO US
[Dooger] 11:18 pm: I think there are a few exceptions.


:lol: :lol: :lol:


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Postby Stone Cold » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:49 pm

drwoland wrote:Wow. Good thing I did not go through with putting Weight on my jersey...


Dammit!! I still have one from his first go-round with the Blues.
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Postby Carl Racki » Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:59 pm

HOly shit...I go out one night drinking and all the shit hits the fan...Dougie, I'm glad I metya, but this is a great deal for the Blues...here's to hoping AMac gets the hattie playing with Paulie Walnuts on Sunday at the Scott....
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Postby ohio BLUES » Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:01 am

Stone Cold wrote:
drwoland wrote:Wow. Good thing I did not go through with putting Weight on my jersey...


Dammit!! I still have one from his first go-round with the Blues.

I thought he was going to be my new favorite after Turgeon left, and I promptly got a Weight authentic. Luckily I unloaded that thing on the 'bay when it started to become a total disappointment.
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Postby WaukeeBlues » Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:02 am

Alright, I crunched the numbers. As Weight will probably not be back in the bluenote, here are his career Blues numbers.

364 Games Played] 75 Goals] 220 Assists] 295 Points] +4]

Good luck sir...
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Postby WaukeeBlues » Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:05 am

Weight will be an unrestricted free agent next summer. His contract cash will be converted into bucks for Perry. A happy convergence, to say the least.


If I read this right, the Ducks are PLANNING to let Weight walk in the summer to make sure they can keep Perry?
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Postby Stone Cold » Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:07 am

WaukeeBlues wrote:
Weight will be an unrestricted free agent next summer. His contract cash will be converted into bucks for Perry. A happy convergence, to say the least.


If I read this right, the Ducks are PLANNING to let Weight walk in the summer to make sure they can keep Perry?


After what happened with Penner (signed a FA contract with EDM), the Ducks needed the cap room to sign Perry after this season.
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Postby WaukeeBlues » Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:09 am

Stone Cold wrote:
WaukeeBlues wrote:
Weight will be an unrestricted free agent next summer. His contract cash will be converted into bucks for Perry. A happy convergence, to say the least.


If I read this right, the Ducks are PLANNING to let Weight walk in the summer to make sure they can keep Perry?


After what happened with Penner (signed a FA contract with EDM), the Ducks needed the cap room to sign Perry after this season.


Is Weight going to call it a career then or what?

37 1/2 seems a little late to be getting a "new start" as an NHL player.
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Postby strocklen083 » Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:32 am

so after reading the article by JR, it seems to be like Dougie got into a pissing match with Andy Murray over playing time. So instead of trying to dump a d-man or a center, they perfect storm came along for the Ducks to be willing to part with MacDonald.
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Postby _Gassoff » Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:39 am

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Is Weight going to call it a career then or what?


Of course not. In the off-season, the Blues will sign Dug Waitz and he will play teh hockies until we trade him again.

Duh.
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Postby JCShutout » Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:56 am

I'm a fan of TEH DUG WAITZ!!!1!!39

but this trade was a no-brainer.

S-T-E-A-L!!!!!!!!
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Postby dmiles2186 » Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:10 am

Un-facking-believable. Have JD and Pleau made a bad trade since they paired up? Seriously...it's almost unreal...the type of deals the Blues have gotten since JD showed up.
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Postby SteveO » Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:21 am

Everyone keeps saying JD, JD, JD.... what if... no it couldn't be....
certainly it's not... Pleau's doing??

Say it ain't so!!
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Postby ViPeRx007 » Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:22 am

Selanne will obviously sign with the Blues now....
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Postby Mayersfan21 » Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:22 am

SIU LAW wrote:Curt,

For the love of god, please, please pull the Weight thread out of the HOF for a couple of days. DO IT!


Normally I wouldn't listen to you SIU- But the large type really brings it home.

NTL)_ All in good fun.

I love this trade and the area of shame that was me saying "No Doug Weight is awesome, he's just adjusting" can finally be over. I backed this guy for years and just never got how the spark just went away after he left EDM.

Will AM be in the lineup on Sunday and does DW really have a problem with Ayotte? That would be the first I've heard of it.

Should that have been in the slander section next to Pujols' rumours.
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Postby hockeychick5739 » Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:35 am

Fack, I'm probably the last one to notice, but sdfjahsdflajhsdf I'm so mad the game isn't televised Sunday. I want to see AM's first game, ugh.

By the way, good trade.
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