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And then Cprice wrote in his very next posthe had a less than stellar playoff showing with the Wings, in which they ran into a ridiculously hot Edmonton team.
So which was it - the ridiculousyly hot Edmonton team or Legace?Legace was not the main reason they lost
Hey, I've already said it wasn't primarily Legace's fault a hundred times...how many times do I have to say it?Steve Levy Sucks wrote:First Cprice wrote
And then Cprice wrote in his very next posthe had a less than stellar playoff showing with the Wings, in which they ran into a ridiculously hot Edmonton team.
So which was it - the ridiculousyly hot Edmonton team or Legace?Legace was not the main reason they lost
Since it can only be one or the other, and not a combination of reasons according to your logic.....I would have to say....Steve Levy Sucks wrote:First Cprice wrote
And then Cprice wrote in his very next posthe had a less than stellar playoff showing with the Wings, in which they ran into a ridiculously hot Edmonton team.
So which was it - the ridiculousyly hot Edmonton team or Legace?Legace was not the main reason they lost
Legace's play this year is no different than it was in his last regular season with the Wings, so its not all that difficult to reinforce what you thought of him.cprice12 wrote:I wanted Legace....and I couldn't tell you why other teams didn't jump at the chance to get him. We heard that a few teams did want him, but he chose St. Louis after weighing his options.NSWingsfan wrote:Nothing to justify. Red Wings didn't sign him and he sat around waiting for another team to take a shot with him. How many teams jumped at the opportunity to snatch him up. He had a great regular season and people here seem to think he wasn't the problem with the Wings losing. A "playoff" goaltender released with a 2.65 GAA and .885 SAV% (now seen as stats that define a playoff goalie) and nothing to give up to get his services other than a contract. What an opportunity!!Blue Beagle wrote:For what other reason would Red Wings fans still be on a Blues board justifying the decision to not resign Legace?NSWingsfan wrote:Blue Beagle wrote:And the truth ... shall set you free!NSWingsfan wrote:In both the Ducks sweep and the loss to Calgary the following year, Cujo was definitely not the problem. He played lights out in both series and so did Jiggy and Kipper. Thats what is expected of a goaltender in the playoffs, otherwise, you're not going to go far.
In both cases, it was a combination of the Detroit offense not being good enough and the opposing goaltender playing lights out as well, with the offense being the bigger problem.
Likewise, it's become very obvious that you're still pining the loss of Legace to a division "rival". I use that word very losely because we're a little far from a rival outside of scope of the series between the two teams in recent seasons, no?
It's not like our team is getting to the playoffs this year, and it's not like yours will do much more than flop in the playoffs again. Though it would be nice, no matter how slim the chance to see the Blues be the team to knock you out in the first round.
Hmmm, where were all the suitors?
Legace's numbers throughout his career are top notch... and yeah, he had a less than stellar playoff showing with the Wings, in which they ran into a ridiculously hot Edmonton team.
Legace's play since we acquired him, just reinforces what I thought about him before we even got him.
Save %? Bah. That stat doesn't define a goalie.
Save % doesn't mean much as a stat on it's own. You know this. Quality of scoring chances/shots that the team in front of him allows, PP goals, etc. aren't factored into the equation.
Save % quite often applies to the team as a whole...not JUST the goalie. But every case is different, which is why it's lame to use save % as a blanket stat when comparing goalies.
It's a real weak stat...just like when people use +/- as a stat to rate an individual player.
That would be a damn good guess.cprice12 wrote: I'm guessing your in depth analysis of that 6 game series would consist of:
- Legace sucked.
Yet, you can't resist the urge to keep posting the same thing over and over. And that sounds to me like someone who can really let it go.Blue Beagle wrote:For what other reason would Red Wings fans still be on a Blues board justifying the decision to not resign Legace?NSWingsfan wrote:Blue Beagle wrote:And the truth ... shall set you free!NSWingsfan wrote:In both the Ducks sweep and the loss to Calgary the following year, Cujo was definitely not the problem. He played lights out in both series and so did Jiggy and Kipper. Thats what is expected of a goaltender in the playoffs, otherwise, you're not going to go far.
In both cases, it was a combination of the Detroit offense not being good enough and the opposing goaltender playing lights out as well, with the offense being the bigger problem.
Likewise, it's become very obvious that you're still pining the loss of Legace to a division "rival". I use that word very losely because we're a little far from a rival outside of scope of the series between the two teams in recent seasons, no?
It's not like our team is getting to the playoffs this year, and it's not like yours will do much more than flop in the playoffs again. Though it would be nice, no matter how slim the chance to see the Blues be the team to knock you out in the first round.
I don't know what the Wings will do next year if they lose in the 1st or 2nd round this year. Osgood just signed a 3-year contract extension...so he'll probably be there for a while.Blue Beagle wrote:Yet, you can't resist the urge to keep posting the same thing over and over. And that sounds to me like someone who can really let it go.Blue Beagle wrote:For what other reason would Red Wings fans still be on a Blues board justifying the decision to not resign Legace?NSWingsfan wrote:Blue Beagle wrote:And the truth ... shall set you free!NSWingsfan wrote:In both the Ducks sweep and the loss to Calgary the following year, Cujo was definitely not the problem. He played lights out in both series and so did Jiggy and Kipper. Thats what is expected of a goaltender in the playoffs, otherwise, you're not going to go far.
In both cases, it was a combination of the Detroit offense not being good enough and the opposing goaltender playing lights out as well, with the offense being the bigger problem.
Likewise, it's become very obvious that you're still pining the loss of Legace to a division "rival". I use that word very losely because we're a little far from a rival outside of scope of the series between the two teams in recent seasons, no?
It's not like our team is getting to the playoffs this year, and it's not like yours will do much more than flop in the playoffs again. Though it would be nice, no matter how slim the chance to see the Blues be the team to knock you out in the first round.
Here's what happened: Detroit let Legace go, the Blues signed him, and he's worked out really well for us so far.
By the way, I'm really hoping that Osgood starts when Detroit falls on their face in the playoffs this year. Because I'd take him back in a heartbeat.
Maybe we can work out an Osgood for "bag of pucks" trade. You know how fond we can be of that "bag of pucks" guy around here.
Thanks for backing up what I have been saying all along.Steve Levy Sucks wrote:That would be a damn good guess.cprice12 wrote: I'm guessing your in depth analysis of that 6 game series would consist of:
- Legace sucked.
You're finally starting to get it. Once the rest of Blues nation catches on, maybe management will get you the right players to win the cup. As long as Blues fan is happy with someone like Legace in net, well - let's just say it's going to be a long miserable ride.cprice12 wrote:I don't know what the Wings will do next year if they lose in the 1st or 2nd round this year. Osgood just signed a 3-year contract extension...so he'll probably be there for a while.Blue Beagle wrote:Yet, you can't resist the urge to keep posting the same thing over and over. And that sounds to me like someone who can really let it go.Blue Beagle wrote:For what other reason would Red Wings fans still be on a Blues board justifying the decision to not resign Legace?NSWingsfan wrote:Blue Beagle wrote:And the truth ... shall set you free!NSWingsfan wrote:In both the Ducks sweep and the loss to Calgary the following year, Cujo was definitely not the problem. He played lights out in both series and so did Jiggy and Kipper. Thats what is expected of a goaltender in the playoffs, otherwise, you're not going to go far.
In both cases, it was a combination of the Detroit offense not being good enough and the opposing goaltender playing lights out as well, with the offense being the bigger problem.
Likewise, it's become very obvious that you're still pining the loss of Legace to a division "rival". I use that word very losely because we're a little far from a rival outside of scope of the series between the two teams in recent seasons, no?
It's not like our team is getting to the playoffs this year, and it's not like yours will do much more than flop in the playoffs again. Though it would be nice, no matter how slim the chance to see the Blues be the team to knock you out in the first round.
Here's what happened: Detroit let Legace go, the Blues signed him, and he's worked out really well for us so far.
By the way, I'm really hoping that Osgood starts when Detroit falls on their face in the playoffs this year. Because I'd take him back in a heartbeat.
Maybe we can work out an Osgood for "bag of pucks" trade. You know how fond we can be of that "bag of pucks" guy around here.
With as fickle as Detroit is with Osgood, or any goalie, I'd be surprised if he is the starter or even on the team in three years.
If they win the cup, it will be in spite of him...if they don't win the cup, it will be his fault. Same old, same old.
Osgood earned his contract renewal this year. Whether he is the starter next regular season or thereafter or if he'll ever see the playoffs this year or thereafter is another matter. He'll have to earn that right.cprice12 wrote:I don't know what the Wings will do next year if they lose in the 1st or 2nd round this year. Osgood just signed a 3-year contract extension...so he'll probably be there for a while.Blue Beagle wrote:Yet, you can't resist the urge to keep posting the same thing over and over. And that sounds to me like someone who can really let it go.Blue Beagle wrote:For what other reason would Red Wings fans still be on a Blues board justifying the decision to not resign Legace?NSWingsfan wrote:Blue Beagle wrote:And the truth ... shall set you free!NSWingsfan wrote:In both the Ducks sweep and the loss to Calgary the following year, Cujo was definitely not the problem. He played lights out in both series and so did Jiggy and Kipper. Thats what is expected of a goaltender in the playoffs, otherwise, you're not going to go far.
In both cases, it was a combination of the Detroit offense not being good enough and the opposing goaltender playing lights out as well, with the offense being the bigger problem.
Likewise, it's become very obvious that you're still pining the loss of Legace to a division "rival". I use that word very losely because we're a little far from a rival outside of scope of the series between the two teams in recent seasons, no?
It's not like our team is getting to the playoffs this year, and it's not like yours will do much more than flop in the playoffs again. Though it would be nice, no matter how slim the chance to see the Blues be the team to knock you out in the first round.
Here's what happened: Detroit let Legace go, the Blues signed him, and he's worked out really well for us so far.
By the way, I'm really hoping that Osgood starts when Detroit falls on their face in the playoffs this year. Because I'd take him back in a heartbeat.
Maybe we can work out an Osgood for "bag of pucks" trade. You know how fond we can be of that "bag of pucks" guy around here.
With as fickle as Detroit is with Osgood, or any goalie, I'd be surprised if he is the starter or even on the team in three years.
If they win the cup, it will be in spite of him...if they don't win the cup, it will be his fault. Same old, same old.
Also, he just wants to argue with you. Which is entertaining.Steve Levy Sucks wrote:The only reason you defend Legace is because he is on your team now. It's no secret on here that you're the biggest Kool-aid drinker there is. You fail to see the bad in anything when it has to do with your team. I don't know, maybe that's a good thing.cprice12 wrote: IMO, it's not as simple as saying "Legace cost us the series against Edmonton".
I have to agree with this. Most Wings fans still crying about this just loved the guy (like most of us did) more than they care to admit. Now they are sour he's gone, and gone to the Blues. He's a great guy, a great goalie, you are lucky to have him for sure. I have to wish him luck, even though he plays for St. Louis, because he is such a nice guy. The band-wagoners are going to act pissy, like they don't care he's gone. Like Cujo, I wish only the best for Manny, if that means he plays for the Blues, so be it. He's a class act and deserves a bit of good luck. (unless he were to play for the Avs...then he could suck it)cprice12 wrote: It's not because he is now a Blue. I keep saying that but you keep missing it.
It amazes me that Wings fans place most of the blame on Legace.
I watched the games...I remember them well as I was rooting for Edmonton.
Legace was not the main reason they lost. That's all I'm saying.
Cujo#31 wrote:I have to agree with this. Most Wings fans still crying about this just loved the guy (like most of us did) more than they care to admit. Now they are sour he's gone, and gone to the Blues. He's a great guy, a great goalie, you are lucky to have him for sure. I have to wish him luck, even though he plays for St. Louis, because he is such a nice guy. The band-wagoners are going to act pissy, like they don't care he's gone. Like Cujo, I wish only the best for Manny, if that means he plays for the Blues, so be it. He's a class act and deserves a bit of good luck. (unless he were to play for the Avs...then he could suck it)cprice12 wrote: It's not because he is now a Blue. I keep saying that but you keep missing it.
It amazes me that Wings fans place most of the blame on Legace.
I watched the games...I remember them well as I was rooting for Edmonton.
Legace was not the main reason they lost. That's all I'm saying.
Bet it would be real good if it didn't automatically mean you're retared.Steve Levy Sucks wrote:Down 2-1 with 1.20 remaining in the game, Cleary ties it with a wrist shot and Lebda wins it in overtime. God it's good to be a Wings fan!
If your team was so (franking) ghey maybe they could have beaten the Wild in regulation and helped us out. Fags.Steve Levy Sucks wrote:Down 2-1 with 1.20 remaining in the game, Cleary ties it with a wrist shot and Lebda wins it in overtime. God it's good to be a Wings fan!
It wasn't from a lack of trying. They had 16 shots on goal in the third.OS wrote:If your team was so (franking) ghey maybe they could have beaten the Wild in regulation and helped us out. Fags.Steve Levy Sucks wrote:Down 2-1 with 1.20 remaining in the game, Cleary ties it with a wrist shot and Lebda wins it in overtime. God it's good to be a Wings fan!
You're forgetting, they have 3 games in hand, so its not as bad as you're making it out to be.Hullie wrote:So anyway...
41-10-4 86pts (17 ahead of 2nd place Dallas)
Osgood 22-3 1.84GAA .927SV% 3SO
Hasek 19-7 2.04GAA .905SV% 4SO
Hey, the Blues are only 31pts back!
SUCK IT ST. LOUIS!!
"times are changing"
