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ohio BLUES wrote:
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Mellanby_equals_grit wrote:I'm about the weakest baseball fan you'll find in St. Louis, but to say there's no strategy is pretty crazy.
Okay - tell me a strategy? Bunt here, hit a single there? If you think that shit can actually happen, you're nuts. Yes, you can call a bunt play, but as a manager, you don't call single, double, triple or home run - that shit is based on the player being able to hit whatever is pitched to him. I'm saying it again - THERE IS NO STRATEGY IN BASEBALL.
Albert Pujols is batting... well since THERE IS NO STRATEGY IN BASEBALL I guess I will just hum one straight over the play waist high?

Baseball is only interesting because of the little intricacies that permeate every aspect of the game.
Okay, I give, you're a professional baseball player. Every time you get up to bat, you can do whatever it is you want to do. That's why the majority of players have batting averages under 300, because they can only hit the ball 2 out of 10 times. And on those 2 out of 10 times they hit it, they are doing exactly what they wanted, single, humming "one straight over the play waist hight".
That wouldn't be because the pitcher is using strategy too, would it? :lol:
Yeah, because we all know the pitcher gets it where he wants every time. How many hits were there last season? Doubles? Triples? Home runs? Yeah, the pitcher has a lot of strategy. :lol:

A pitchers only strategy is to keep his ERA below 6 so he can make $20 million the next season and suck even worse.

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Ehijo wrote:Suck it Detroit -- you don't get to draft in the top 5!

I'm just ignoring the fact that you're in the playoffs and won the President's Trophy...

In other words... F you.
Nobody here likes you - what will it take for you to figure that out?
Not surprised you fall back to the "no one likes you" comment. Are you self aware?
Yes, I'm self aware. I'm also aware that you're an idiot. I'm also aware that when I wake up in the morning and try to get on this site i'll either be banned for calling you an idiot, or i'll have a PM from Curt asking me 'tell me why I shouldn't ban you again'. And i'll respond in my custormay response, that I don't give a shit if he bans me or not. I'm here to have a good time. I've been here for 7-years now having fun with posters who can take it and who can dish it out, not with sissies like you who take shit so personal.
Talk to "glen a richter" about alternate universes (or any other regular in FlashChat)... maybe in one of them you've said something I take personally. I think you're the one who lashes out when someone disagrees with you by insulting them (Which IS THE DEFINITION OF TAKING STUFF PERSONALLY).
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richtedm wrote:
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Mellanby_equals_grit wrote:I'm about the weakest baseball fan you'll find in St. Louis, but to say there's no strategy is pretty crazy.
Okay - tell me a strategy? Bunt here, hit a single there? If you think that shit can actually happen, you're nuts. Yes, you can call a bunt play, but as a manager, you don't call single, double, triple or home run - that shit is based on the player being able to hit whatever is pitched to him. I'm saying it again - THERE IS NO STRATEGY IN BASEBALL.
Albert Pujols is batting... well since THERE IS NO STRATEGY IN BASEBALL I guess I will just hum one straight over the play waist high?

Baseball is only interesting because of the little intricacies that permeate every aspect of the game.
Okay, I give, you're a professional baseball player. Every time you get up to bat, you can do whatever it is you want to do. That's why the majority of players have batting averages under 300, because they can only hit the ball 2 out of 10 times. And on those 2 out of 10 times they hit it, they are doing exactly what they wanted, single, humming "one straight over the play waist hight". It's a no win argument. I hate baseball, and you can't convince me there is any strategy whatsoever. Go ahead and continue the moran and stupid remarks, I mean, I'm not the one sitting home hoping to win a lottery for an unproven player in the NHL because my team didn't make the playoffs. Oh yes, I just went there.
I love how you can rip on someone for not having any substance in their posts and then you tack on an insult in every single one of yours. If you were legitimately trying understand something about baseball and not just stirring up shit then you wouldn't need your token insults.

I'm fine with the insults, generally they make me laugh (no, not with you, AT YOU). Just don't pretend to be a reasonably intelligent thing afterwards.
Okay, whatever. :lol:

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richtedm wrote:
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Ehijo wrote:Suck it Detroit -- you don't get to draft in the top 5!

I'm just ignoring the fact that you're in the playoffs and won the President's Trophy...

In other words... F you.
Nobody here likes you - what will it take for you to figure that out?
Not surprised you fall back to the "no one likes you" comment. Are you self aware?
Yes, I'm self aware. I'm also aware that you're an idiot. I'm also aware that when I wake up in the morning and try to get on this site i'll either be banned for calling you an idiot, or i'll have a PM from Curt asking me 'tell me why I shouldn't ban you again'. And i'll respond in my custormay response, that I don't give a shit if he bans me or not. I'm here to have a good time. I've been here for 7-years now having fun with posters who can take it and who can dish it out, not with sissies like you who take shit so personal.
Talk to "glen a richter" about alternate universes (or any other regular in FlashChat)... maybe in one of them you've said something I take personally. I think you're the one who lashes out when someone disagrees with you by insulting them (Which IS THE DEFINITION OF TAKING STUFF PERSONALLY).
Dude, I've been called stupid and a moran in this post JUST because I don't like baseball, yet you're telling I insult people? Classic :lol:

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I'm not saying people don't insult you. But if you can't claim not to take stuff seriously when you get worked up over being called a moran. Oh well, seriously, I can't imagine wasting more time convincing you of anything. That is all.

Baseball has strategy.
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richtedm wrote:I'm not saying people don't insult you. But if you can't claim not to take stuff seriously when you get worked up over being called a moran. Oh well, seriously, I can't imagine wasting more time convincing you of anything. That is all.

Baseball has strategy.
Yeah, I keep hearing about this baseball strategy that we're talking about in the 'Suck it Detroit' thread. :lol:

So here's your chance rich, explain to me how one team in baseball wins the game using strategy. PLEASE - FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, explain it to me.

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ohio BLUES wrote:I wasn't aware you could comprehend substance. Okay.

I played baseball for 10+ years, most of that was as a catcher. Calling a game from behind the plate takes strategy. Setting your defense properly for the situation (double play, playing the bunt, looking for the play at the plate) takes strategy. Attacking a batter's weaknesses from the mound takes strategy. Beating the Tigers in the World Series takes strategy.

Just as much strategy as any other sport.
So, you can honestly sit there and tell me there is as much strategy in baseball as there is in football? Basketball? The NHL with line changes? NASCAR with pitstops?

You are F'N NUTS Ohio!!!!!
What pitcher do I bring in to face this next batter? Do I go off their previous stats, look instead for a lefty-lefty matchup, or just play a hunch? Maybe it's time for a double switch for a defensive replacement at the same time?

If baseball had no strategy then it'd be a probability crapshoot and everyone would go 82-82, because hey, who cares if they're talented - they don't know what they're doing out there!
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Steve Levy Sucks wrote:A pitchers only strategy is to keep his ERA below 6 so he can make $20 million the next season and suck even worse.
Sounds a lot like Darren McCarty's strategy to make a buck next year so he can get out of betting debt and not be a deadbeat dad...
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ohio BLUES wrote:
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ohio BLUES wrote:I wasn't aware you could comprehend substance. Okay.

I played baseball for 10+ years, most of that was as a catcher. Calling a game from behind the plate takes strategy. Setting your defense properly for the situation (double play, playing the bunt, looking for the play at the plate) takes strategy. Attacking a batter's weaknesses from the mound takes strategy. Beating the Tigers in the World Series takes strategy.

Just as much strategy as any other sport.
So, you can honestly sit there and tell me there is as much strategy in baseball as there is in football? Basketball? The NHL with line changes? NASCAR with pitstops?

You are F'N NUTS Ohio!!!!!
What pitcher do I bring in to face this next batter? Do I go off their previous stats, look instead for a lefty-lefty matchup, or just play a hunch? Maybe it's time for a double switch for a defensive replacement at the same time?

If baseball had no strategy then it'd be a probability crapshoot and everyone would go 82-82, because hey, who cares if they're talented - they don't know what they're doing out there!
Okay - pull up last seasons records. Tell me, how many teams went over 82-82? Were the majority of teams 500? Thought so - based on what you just said you proved my point, NO STRATEGY! :lol:

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ohio BLUES wrote:
Steve Levy Sucks wrote:A pitchers only strategy is to keep his ERA below 6 so he can make $20 million the next season and suck even worse.
Sounds a lot like Darren McCarty's strategy to make a buck next year so he can get out of betting debt and not be a deadbeat dad...

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Steve Levy Sucks wrote:
ohio BLUES wrote:
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ohio BLUES wrote:I wasn't aware you could comprehend substance. Okay.

I played baseball for 10+ years, most of that was as a catcher. Calling a game from behind the plate takes strategy. Setting your defense properly for the situation (double play, playing the bunt, looking for the play at the plate) takes strategy. Attacking a batter's weaknesses from the mound takes strategy. Beating the Tigers in the World Series takes strategy.

Just as much strategy as any other sport.
So, you can honestly sit there and tell me there is as much strategy in baseball as there is in football? Basketball? The NHL with line changes? NASCAR with pitstops?

You are F'N NUTS Ohio!!!!!
What pitcher do I bring in to face this next batter? Do I go off their previous stats, look instead for a lefty-lefty matchup, or just play a hunch? Maybe it's time for a double switch for a defensive replacement at the same time?

If baseball had no strategy then it'd be a probability crapshoot and everyone would go 82-82, because hey, who cares if they're talented - they don't know what they're doing out there!
Okay - pull up last seasons records. Tell me, how many teams went over 82-82? Were the majority of teams 500? Thought so - based on what you just said you proved my point, NO STRATEGY! :lol:
I am just... Aflac duck stunned, a la the Yogi Berra commercial.

ZERO teams went 82-82 last year. Also, no one finished .500 on a shortened schedule. Sorry, you lose. :detsucks:
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ohio BLUES wrote:
Steve Levy Sucks wrote:
ohio BLUES wrote:
Steve Levy Sucks wrote:
ohio BLUES wrote:I wasn't aware you could comprehend substance. Okay.

I played baseball for 10+ years, most of that was as a catcher. Calling a game from behind the plate takes strategy. Setting your defense properly for the situation (double play, playing the bunt, looking for the play at the plate) takes strategy. Attacking a batter's weaknesses from the mound takes strategy. Beating the Tigers in the World Series takes strategy.

Just as much strategy as any other sport.
So, you can honestly sit there and tell me there is as much strategy in baseball as there is in football? Basketball? The NHL with line changes? NASCAR with pitstops?

You are F'N NUTS Ohio!!!!!
What pitcher do I bring in to face this next batter? Do I go off their previous stats, look instead for a lefty-lefty matchup, or just play a hunch? Maybe it's time for a double switch for a defensive replacement at the same time?

If baseball had no strategy then it'd be a probability crapshoot and everyone would go 82-82, because hey, who cares if they're talented - they don't know what they're doing out there!
Okay - pull up last seasons records. Tell me, how many teams went over 82-82? Were the majority of teams 500? Thought so - based on what you just said you proved my point, NO STRATEGY! :lol:
I am just... Aflac duck stunned, a la the Yogi Berra commercial.

ZERO teams went 82-82 last year. Also, no one finished .500 on a shortened schedule. Sorry, you lose. :detsucks:
15 of the 30 teams finished below 500 last season. (that's .500 btw)
So, 15 of those teams used no strategy according to you. The other 15 used Strategy. So basically, we're back at .500 - which again, you made the argument, and I agreed, there is NO STRATEGY in baseball. :lol:

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Steve Levy Sucks wrote:
ohio BLUES wrote:
Steve Levy Sucks wrote:
ohio BLUES wrote:
Steve Levy Sucks wrote:
ohio BLUES wrote:I wasn't aware you could comprehend substance. Okay.

I played baseball for 10+ years, most of that was as a catcher. Calling a game from behind the plate takes strategy. Setting your defense properly for the situation (double play, playing the bunt, looking for the play at the plate) takes strategy. Attacking a batter's weaknesses from the mound takes strategy. Beating the Tigers in the World Series takes strategy.

Just as much strategy as any other sport.
So, you can honestly sit there and tell me there is as much strategy in baseball as there is in football? Basketball? The NHL with line changes? NASCAR with pitstops?

You are F'N NUTS Ohio!!!!!
What pitcher do I bring in to face this next batter? Do I go off their previous stats, look instead for a lefty-lefty matchup, or just play a hunch? Maybe it's time for a double switch for a defensive replacement at the same time?

If baseball had no strategy then it'd be a probability crapshoot and everyone would go 82-82, because hey, who cares if they're talented - they don't know what they're doing out there!
Okay - pull up last seasons records. Tell me, how many teams went over 82-82? Were the majority of teams 500? Thought so - based on what you just said you proved my point, NO STRATEGY! :lol:
I am just... Aflac duck stunned, a la the Yogi Berra commercial.

ZERO teams went 82-82 last year. Also, no one finished .500 on a shortened schedule. Sorry, you lose. :detsucks:
15 of the 30 teams finished below 500 last season. (that's .500 btw)
So, 15 of those teams used no strategy according to you. The other 15 used Strategy. So basically, we're back at .500 - which again, you made the argument, and I agreed, there is NO STRATEGY in baseball. :lol:
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richtedm wrote:ZING!
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There is no CRYING in baseball.

There is however strategy. Like the strategy of putting an illegal substance on your hand to win a championship for instance. :)

O wait. I think Detroit cried in baseball....

SUCK IT!!!!!
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Mellanby_equals_grit wrote:Yeah I think SLS just let go of his right to continue calling anyone a redneck since he's admitted he's a NASCAR fan. :lol:
Baseball: A bunch of Central American, overpaid players who spend 4 hours trying to round the bases more times than the other guy. Almost zero strategy, and almost zero entertainment.

It's really pretty simple
Well that's just stupid, right there. :lol:
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Ehijo wrote:
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Ehijo wrote:Suck it Detroit -- you don't get to draft in the top 5!

I'm just ignoring the fact that you're in the playoffs and won the President's Trophy...

In other words... F you.
Nobody here likes you - what will it take for you to figure that out?
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deadphish wrote:Here's hoping your plane gets accidentally shot down being mistaken for terrorists.
I don't understand why you used the word, "mistaken".
I was just going back and reading this thread from the start and missed this gem of a response.

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For the love of Christ...there is strategy in all sports...even curling.
To say otherwise is assinine.
If you don't want people to think you are stupid, then quit acting stupid. :lol:

Here...you could obviously use some education on the subject of baseball strategy:
Baseball is a complex sport where strategy can play a big part. A baseball team's strategy can vary from game to game depending on the pitcher and the opposing team. The strategy can change during a game from situation to situation depending on the number of outs and the count on the batter. The strategy also changes from batter to batter depending on the strengths and weaknesses of both the batter and the pitcher.
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Baseball Defensive Strategy

Pitching

Any baseball team's defensive strategy will be centered around the pitcher. The pitcher is the primary defense and how the rest of the defense sets up and plays will depend on the type of pitcher. Some pitchers throw pitches that will cause lots of fly balls. As a result the rest of the defense is positioned and skilled at flagging down fly balls. Other pitches throw pitches that dip and cause lots of ground balls. In this case, a strong infield is necessary.

The pitcher themselves will build up their own unique strategy. Over the years they will work on specialized pitches like the fast ball, curveball, change-up, and slider. Most pitchers will have a couple of pitches that they excel at. Then they will work these pitches to fool the batter. For example, a pitcher may throw a fast ball that whizzes by the batter. When the batter get ready for the next fastball, then the pitcher throws a change-up. The arm motion of the pitcher looks like a fastball to the hitter, but, in fact, the baseball is traveling much slower. The batter often swings too early anticipating the fast ball and completely misses the slower pitch. Pitcher also work the baseball to different areas of the plate. They may pitch a number of high fast balls and then throw a curve ball into the dirt that completely fools the batter. In the end, it's each pitcher's unique strategy that makes them the most effective.

At some professional baseball levels, pitchers will study film of batters and discover their weaknesses. Maybe a batter does not hit an outside fastball well after getting a close in curve ball. The pitcher will then use this knowledge to plan a strategy for getting a particular batter out.

Baseball Fielding Strategy

Fielding strategy is important in getting batters out as well. Often the outfield or infield will shift to the left or to the right depending on the batter. It may be because the batter is left handed or right handed or maybe because the batter typically pulls the ball. They may also shift because they know the pitcher is going to throw the ball inside or outside, so they can predict where the ball is likely to be hit. This positioning gives the fielders a better chance of getting to a hit ball.

Other special positioning in the field is due to the situation of the game. It may be that they are expecting the batter to bunt, so, in this case, the infield would play closer to home plate ready to charge if the batter bunts.

Offensive Baseball Strategy

There is both an individual offensive baseball strategy and a team offensive baseball strategy.

The batter will usually have their own strategy on how to hit a particular pitcher. This usually involves trying to guess the type of pitch that is coming. Knowing the type of pitch can make a big difference on the success of the batter. Batters may study pitchers to know what type of pitches a pitcher prefers on certain counts. They may also study the pitcher's movements to see if they have a specific release or action that tips off what kind of pitch they are throwing. Batter's will also try to read the pitch from the catcher's movements or the spin of the ball coming out of the pitcher's hand.

In team offensive strategy, the baseball coach or manager may make certain calls based on the game situation. One play is called ht hit-and-run. This is case where a base runner starts running as soon as the pitcher throws the pitch. The batter is then supposed to try and make contact with the ball. This puts the batter at a bit of a disadvantage, but gives the base runner a much better chance at advancing. Another example is the sacrifice where the batter intentionally gets an out in order to advance the base runner one base or to home plate for a run.
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