The Next Blues Captain

[dmiles2186]

D'agostini for captain!

His patch would look like: 'C

[DaDitka]

I'm not anti-Pietro getting the C per se. But, he's really only had one season in the NHL. I still say give it to Backes, and don't put any unnecessary pressure on an inexperienced player. When it comes down to it, wearing the C is an honor more than anything. Leaders are going to lead whether they have an A, a C, or nothing on their jersey. So, I don't see the benefit of giving it to Pietro, but I see a potential negative of him pressing too hard to show he deserves it, which could lead to him regressing.

See this is a quality post. If you had just left off the other paragraph it would have been spot on.

lol, sooo close.

Seriously though, I would give it to Backes. I'm just saying I don't think it's a catastrophe if Jackman gets it. If Backes stops being a team leader because he has an A instead of the C, he's probably not that great of a leader anyway.

It might depend on what plans are for the offseason. Jackman might be moved at some point, but until that decision is made I can see no "C" for the remaining of the year. If Jackman is part of the "veteran dman need", then I can see the "C" going to him.

In all honesty, taking any personal feelings out of it, even taking performance out of it, the one thing everyone agrees on is that we are disappointed in the fact that Jackman no longer has an edge to his game. There is no denying the 'passion' is gone. He no longer plays with 'grit'. Is this the guy you want leading your team?

Some have mounted fair arguments that he's a needed veteran presence, some have offered excuses for his poor play, but no one has denied his loss of passion on the ice.

Like him or not, keep him or not, I don't see a single valid argument to give him the "C" short of tenure...and I don't think that's a valid argument either (it's valid, just no a goo reason).

They want to build a young team, that grows together, and plays physical and hard.......Backes is the easy answer. I don't even think there is a second choice (or runner up).

[northwest dave]

I'm not anti-Pietro getting the C per se. But, he's really only had one season in the NHL. I still say give it to Backes, and don't put any unnecessary pressure on an inexperienced player. When it comes down to it, wearing the C is an honor more than anything. Leaders are going to lead whether they have an A, a C, or nothing on their jersey. So, I don't see the benefit of giving it to Pietro, but I see a potential negative of him pressing too hard to show he deserves it, which could lead to him regressing.

See this is a quality post. If you had just left off the other paragraph it would have been spot on.

lol, sooo close.

Seriously though, I would give it to Backes. I'm just saying I don't think it's a catastrophe if Jackman gets it. If Backes stops being a team leader because he has an A instead of the C, he's probably not that great of a leader anyway.

It might depend on what plans are for the offseason. Jackman might be moved at some point, but until that decision is made I can see no "C" for the remaining of the year. If Jackman is part of the "veteran dman need", then I can see the "C" going to him.

In all honesty, taking any personal feelings out of it, even taking performance out of it, the one thing everyone agrees on is that we are disappointed in the fact that Jackman no longer has an edge to his game. There is no denying the 'passion' is gone. He no longer plays with 'grit'. Is this the guy you want leading your team?

Some have mounted fair arguments that he's a needed veteran presence, some have offered excuses for his poor play, but no one has denied his loss of passion on the ice.

Like him or not, keep him or not, I don't see a single valid argument to give him the "C" short of tenure...and I don't think that's a valid argument either (it's valid, just no a goo reason).

They want to build a young team, that grows together, and plays physical and hard.......Backes is the easy answer. I don't even think there is a second choice (or runner up).

I agree with Backes being the easier answer. You may disagree, but I think Jackman has had a pretty good year this year. His stats are decent, his ice time is down (which is key), and I actually think he is playing with an edge...although not as much as we'd like (or what he used to be).

There are still some mental mistakes (trending more lately) than I'd like to see.

Who is out there for the Blues to get? From the UFA side...Bieksa or Montador? Maybe this is where the draft picks come into play.

[goon attack]

No way Jackman should get the C over Backes.

And who asked why Steen was on the list? Isn't he like leading the team in scoring? Plus, he plays with a little bit of an edge.

I still say Backes, but Steen seems like an okay candidate. He's already an alternate captain.

I think the clear choice is Backes at this point... I'd pick Steen second and Pie third.

Also, how about Stewart?

[northwest dave]

No way Jackman should get the C over Backes.

And who asked why Steen was on the list? Isn't he like leading the team in scoring? Plus, he plays with a little bit of an edge.

I still say Backes, but Steen seems like an okay candidate. He's already an alternate captain.

I think the clear choice is Backes at this point... I'd pick Steen second and Pie third.

Also, how about Stewart?

Stewart might elevate to captain after the year.

[dmiles2186]

No way Jackman should get the C over Backes.

And who asked why Steen was on the list? Isn't he like leading the team in scoring? Plus, he plays with a little bit of an edge.

I still say Backes, but Steen seems like an okay candidate. He's already an alternate captain.

I think the clear choice is Backes at this point... I'd pick Steen second and Pie third.

Also, how about Stewart?

I'm with you on Steen. When I think back on this season, the one guy that you can point to showing up almost EVERY. SINGLE. NIGHT. has been Steen. I voted for Backes in the poll and I'm a huge Backes fan. I've been wanting him for captain for awhile now. But you can't discount Steen's high motor intensity and always showing up to play, even if it doesn't show up on the stat sheet. You can't go wrong with either guy, in my opinion.

[Ghostface]

Steen and Backes are easily the hardest working guys on the ice every shift. That Luongo cough up goal a while back, Steen starts in his own end and outraces everybody on the ice, catches Lu off guard, unreal. That being said, I agree with the general population that Backes is the more likely candidate.

[philco_3]

To continue the worthless/meaningless honoring of being named Blues captain, lets just name Janssen captain and get it over with.

[ViPeRx007]

Someone Else: Larry Bird.

[STLADOGG]

I switch my vote to Jackman.

[DaDitka]

I switch my vote to Jackman.

Dude, April fools was 4 days ago. Considering his biggest problem these days is lack of intensity and/or concentration, and that he'll be gone in a year, there are 15 better choices. Hell Oshie skips practice and he's still a better choice.

I don't know who they will give the C to (my guess is Backes) but I know Petro has taken a real leadership role. He just may be too young for that responsibility right now.

If I had to guess today....

C - Backes
A - Petro
A - Steen
A - Jackman (one last year)

[STLADOGG]

I switch my vote to Jackman.

Dude, April fools was 4 days ago. Considering his biggest problem these days is lack of intensity and/or concentration, and that he'll be gone in a year, there are 15 better choices. Hell Oshie skips practice and he's still a better choice.

I don't know who they will give the C to (my guess is Backes) but I know Petro has taken a real leadership role. He just may be too young for that responsibility right now.

If I had to guess today....

C - Backes
A - Petro
A - Steen
A - Jackman (one last year)

Jackman is only 30(seems like like hes 40 compared to the young guys on the team), but the team has been a defensive team since the lockout. I just can't see them giving Backes it, they kept Brewer as "C" for how many years so you know they don't give a (Frank) about the fans. I think it will be a shame if Jax never gets to wear that "C". Backes or Petro will get there turn.

[DaDitka]

I switch my vote to Jackman.

Dude, April fools was 4 days ago. Considering his biggest problem these days is lack of intensity and/or concentration, and that he'll be gone in a year, there are 15 better choices. Hell Oshie skips practice and he's still a better choice.

I don't know who they will give the C to (my guess is Backes) but I know Petro has taken a real leadership role. He just may be too young for that responsibility right now.

If I had to guess today....

C - Backes
A - Petro
A - Steen
A - Jackman (one last year)

Jackman is only 30(seems like like hes 40 compared to the young guys on the team), but the team has been a defensive team since the lockout. I just can't see them giving Backes it, they kept Brewer as "C" for how many years so you know they don't give a (Frank) about the fans. I think it will be a shame if Jax never gets to wear that "C". Backes or Petro will get there turn.

It's not a matter of 'the fans' - Jackman is done here. They will suffer through one more year of him if they have to, and then that is it. They would probably prefer not to change captions every year so that eliminates him from consideration. Furthermore a guy who lacks passion certainly doesn't fit as your captain. The reason Brewer 'kept' the C is because no one wanted to be mean enough to strip him of it. You seldom see a player 'lose' the C. Luongo asked to not be captain anymore in Vancouver, but you don't often see current players stripped of the C.

I'll ask you this questing.......save years of service, what leads you to think Jackman would be a good candidate?

He doesn't play very hard any more. He clearly doesn't 'love' hockey any more.

This is a young team that management plans to see play together for the next 6 to 8 years. They will chose one of them to be the leader in the locker room.

The best chance Jacks has of being in the Blues locker room after next year is if he hangs up the skates and Bernie is too busy selling cabinets.

[STLADOGG]

I switch my vote to Jackman.

Dude, April fools was 4 days ago. Considering his biggest problem these days is lack of intensity and/or concentration, and that he'll be gone in a year, there are 15 better choices. Hell Oshie skips practice and he's still a better choice.

I don't know who they will give the C to (my guess is Backes) but I know Petro has taken a real leadership role. He just may be too young for that responsibility right now.

If I had to guess today....

C - Backes
A - Petro
A - Steen
A - Jackman (one last year)

Jackman is only 30(seems like like hes 40 compared to the young guys on the team), but the team has been a defensive team since the lockout. I just can't see them giving Backes it, they kept Brewer as "C" for how many years so you know they don't give a (Frank) about the fans. I think it will be a shame if Jax never gets to wear that "C". Backes or Petro will get there turn.

It's not a matter of 'the fans' - Jackman is done here. They will suffer through one more year of him if they have to, and then that is it. They would probably prefer not to change captions every year so that eliminates him from consideration. Furthermore a guy who lacks passion certainly doesn't fit as your captain. The reason Brewer 'kept' the C is because no one wanted to be mean enough to strip him of it. You seldom see a player 'lose' the C. Luongo asked to not be captain anymore in Vancouver, but you don't often see current players stripped of the C.

I'll ask you this questing.......save years of service, what leads you to think Jackman would be a good candidate?

He doesn't play very hard any more. He clearly doesn't 'love' hockey any more.

This is a young team that management plans to see play together for the next 6 to 8 years. They will chose one of them to be the leader in the locker room.

The best chance Jacks has of being in the Blues locker room after next year is if he hangs up the skates and Bernie is too busy selling cabinets.

He doesn't love hockey? So 104 blocked shots in 57 games is because he hates the game?

[northwest dave]

I switch my vote to Jackman.

Dude, April fools was 4 days ago. Considering his biggest problem these days is lack of intensity and/or concentration, and that he'll be gone in a year, there are 15 better choices. Hell Oshie skips practice and he's still a better choice.

I don't know who they will give the C to (my guess is Backes) but I know Petro has taken a real leadership role. He just may be too young for that responsibility right now.

If I had to guess today....

C - Backes
A - Petro
A - Steen
A - Jackman (one last year)

Jackman is only 30(seems like like hes 40 compared to the young guys on the team), but the team has been a defensive team since the lockout. I just can't see them giving Backes it, they kept Brewer as "C" for how many years so you know they don't give a (Frank) about the fans. I think it will be a shame if Jax never gets to wear that "C". Backes or Petro will get there turn.

It's not a matter of 'the fans' - Jackman is done here. They will suffer through one more year of him if they have to, and then that is it. They would probably prefer not to change captions every year so that eliminates him from consideration. Furthermore a guy who lacks passion certainly doesn't fit as your captain. The reason Brewer 'kept' the C is because no one wanted to be mean enough to strip him of it. You seldom see a player 'lose' the C. Luongo asked to not be captain anymore in Vancouver, but you don't often see current players stripped of the C.

I'll ask you this questing.......save years of service, what leads you to think Jackman would be a good candidate?

He doesn't play very hard any more. He clearly doesn't 'love' hockey any more.

This is a young team that management plans to see play together for the next 6 to 8 years. They will chose one of them to be the leader in the locker room.

The best chance Jacks has of being in the Blues locker room after next year is if he hangs up the skates and Bernie is too busy selling cabinets.

He doesn't love hockey? So 104 blocked shots in 57 games is because he hates the game?

You can't talk down the hate that DaDitka has for Jackman. Don't even try.

[ohio BLUES]

I'm still in the David Backes camp, but if they gave it to Pietrangelo I wouldn't complain. Either way, the sooner they tell me what captaincy level Petro's gonna have, the sooner I'll be putting in a jersey order...

[DaDitka]

He doesn't love hockey? So 104 blocked shots in 57 games is because he hates the game?

You can't talk down the hate that DaDitka has for Jackman. Don't even try.

Clearly just another by product of his laziness (laying down on the job)


Sorry, no one that watches this team game in and game out can honestly even suggest he's any good at all anymore.

I may go out of my way to 'hate' on him, but that is only because so many try to act as though he's actually the player we all thought he would become.

It's no different then when everyone said I was hating on Oshie because I said he wasn't capable of scoring 30 goals before the season.

It's a matter of perspective. I'm 'hating' on Jackman if you are trying to suggest he's a top 4 D-man or decent candidate for captain.

If you want to compare his value to a Mike Weaver or suggest that he should make the team next year over Tyson Strachan, we can have a discussion.

[northwest dave]

He doesn't love hockey? So 104 blocked shots in 57 games is because he hates the game?

You can't talk down the hate that DaDitka has for Jackman. Don't even try.

Clearly just another by product of his laziness (laying down on the job)


Sorry, no one that watches this team game in and game out can honestly even suggest he's any good at all anymore.

I may go out of my way to 'hate' on him, but that is only because so many try to act as though he's actually the player we all thought he would become.

It's no different then when everyone said I was hating on Oshie because I said he wasn't capable of scoring 30 goals before the season.

It's a matter of perspective. I'm 'hating' on Jackman if you are trying to suggest he's a top 4 D-man or decent candidate for captain.

If you want to compare his value to a Mike Weaver or suggest that he should make the team next year over Tyson Strachan, we can have a discussion.

Man you are so right...wow. Let me awe in your observational opinion.

[DaDitka]

Man you are so right...wow. Let me awe in your observational opinion.

Dude, I'm really not trying to fight about it. If he were making 1 mill playing on your 3rd paring...he'd be fine.

I think most people agree that he's been a grave disappointed from what we expected. That's fine. It doesn't make him a bad guy.

I just think it's funny that he loafs more then Bergie ever did, he get's walked around more then any of the kids, he's get's caught up more then Carlo, and he misses the net more then Boyes.......but how dare we question him.

You're 'love' for him is far less justified then my 'hate'.

[northwest dave]

Man you are so right...wow. Let me awe in your observational opinion.

Dude, I'm really not trying to fight about it. If he were making 1 mill playing on your 3rd paring...he'd be fine.

I think most people agree that he's been a grave disappointed from what we expected. That's fine. It doesn't make him a bad guy.

I just think it's funny that he loafs more then Bergie ever did, he get's walked around more then any of the kids, he's get's caught up more then Carlo, and he misses the net more then Boyes.......but how dare we question him.

You're 'love' for him is far less justified then my 'hate'.

No love for him, just exhausted at your constant whining. I personally would like Backes or Petro to be captain. But hey, that doesn't take away the chance for you to say something trite about Jackman.