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Countdown to the 2012 Draft

Postby dmiles2186 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:58 am

I'm not well versed on the prospects and we've got 10 days to get up to speed before the draft takes place. It's a bit different feel this year since the Blues made a step up, the draft doesn't seem to be such a focal point from a fan's perspective like it has in the past. (I only listed the top 50 skater prospects on each list. All prospect rankings from NHL.com)

Date(s): June 22–23, 2012
Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

Draft Order (Round 1):

# NHL Team
1 Edmonton Oilers
2 Columbus Blue Jackets
3 Montreal Canadiens
4 New York Islanders
5 Toronto Maple Leafs
6 Anaheim Ducks
7 Minnesota Wild
8 Carolina Hurricanes
9 Winnipeg Jets
10 Tampa Bay Lightning
11 Washington Capitals (from Colorado)1
12 Buffalo Sabres
13 Dallas Stars
14 Calgary Flames
15 Ottawa Senators
16 Washington Capitals
17 San Jose Sharks
18 Chicago Blackhawks
19 Tampa Bay Lightning (from Detroit)2
20 Philadelphia Flyers
21 Buffalo Sabres (from Nashville)3
22 Pittsburgh Penguins
23 Florida Panthers
24 Boston Bruins
25 St. Louis Blues
26 Vancouver Canucks
27 Phoenix Coyotes
28 New York Rangers
29 New Jersey Devils4
30 Los Angeles Kings

Prospects (North American Skaters):

1 1 Yakupov, Nail Right Wing Sarnia OHL
2 3 Murray, Ryan Defenseman Everett WHL
3 2 Grigorenko, Mikhail Center Quebec QMJHL
4 Galchenyuk, Alex Center Sarnia OHL
5 5 Rielly, Morgan Defenseman Moose Jaw WHL
6 16 Ceci, Cody Defenseman Ottawa OHL
7 4 Faksa, Radek Center Kitchener OHL
8 6 Maatta, Olli Defenseman London OHL
9 9 Trouba, Jacob Defenseman USA U-18 USHL
10 8 Reinhart, Griffin Defenseman Edmonton WHL
11 7 Dumba, Mathew Defenseman Red Deer WHL
12 10 Pouliot, Derrick Defenseman Portland WHL
13 11 Gaunce, Brendan Center Belleville OHL
14 14 Sissons, Colton Center Kelowna WHL
15 33 Wilson, Thomas Right Wing Plymouth OHL
16 15 Finn, Matthew Defenseman Guelph OHL
17 13 Matteau, Stefan Center USA U-18 USHL
18 12 Girgensons, Zemgus Center Dubuque USHL
19 18 Skjei, Brady Defenseman USA U-18 USHL
20 25 Frk, Martin Right Wing Halifax QMJHL
21 26 Winther, Mike Center Prince Albert WHL
22 28 Di Giuseppe, Phillip Left Wing U. of Michigan CCHA
23 17 Koekkoek, Slater Defenseman Peterborough OHL
24 23 Kosmachuk, Scott Right Wing Guelph OHL
25 22 Pearson, Tanner Left Wing Barrie OHL
26 30 Thrower, Dalton Defenseman Saskatoon WHL
27 31 Nieves, Cristoval Center Kent School HIGH-CT
28 40 Laughton, Scott Center Oshawa OHL
29 27 Kerdiles, Nicolas Left Wing USA U-18 USHL
30 29 Matheson, Michael Defenseman Dubuque USHL
31 34 Sieloff, Patrick Defenseman USA U-18 USHL
32 19 Zharkov, Daniil Left Wing Belleville OHL
33 36 Stephenson, Chandler Left Wing/Center Regina WHL
34 35 Schmaltz, Jordan Defenseman Green Bay USHL
35 21 Maidens, Jarrod Left Wing/Center Owen Sound OHL
36 41 Kurker, Samuel Right Wing St. John's Prep HIGH-MA
37 20 Smith, Gemel Center Owen Sound OHL
38 32 Vail, Brady Center Windsor OHL
39 86 Sutter, Lukas Center Saskatoon WHL
40 24 Athanasiou, Andreas Left Wing/Center London OHL
41 58 Richard, Tanner Center Guelph OHL
42 39 Bozon, Tim Left Wing Kamloops WHL
43 74 Jankowski, Mark Center Stanstead College HIGH-QC
44 45 Carrick, Trevor Defenseman Mississauga St. Michael's OHL
45 65 Hyka, Tomas Right Wing Gatineau QMJHL
46 48 Fox, Dane Center Erie OHL
47 47 Mccabe, Jake Defenseman U. of Wisconsin WCHA
48 46 Severson, Damon Defenseman Kelowna WHL
49 135 Mcginn, Brock Left Wing Guelph OHL
50 43 Baillargeon, Robert Center Indiana USHL

European Skaters

1 1 Forsberg, Filip Center Leksand SWEDEN-2
2 7 Teravainen, Teuvo Left Wing Jokerit Jr. FINLAND-JR.
3 2 Collberg, Sebastian Right Wing Frolunda Jr. SWE-JR.
4 6 Lindholm, Hampus Defenseman Rogle Jr. SWE-JR.
5 3 Hertl, Tomas Center Slavia CZREP
6 4 Aberg, Pontus Left Wing Djurgarden SWEDEN
7 5 Pokka, Ville Defenseman Karpat FINLAND
8 8 Bystrom, Ludvik Defenseman Modo Jr. SWE-JR.
9 9 Prokhorkin, Nikolai Left Wing CSKA 2 RUSSIA-JR.
10 13 Slepyshev, Anton Left Wing Novokuznetsk RUSSIA
11 10 Vainonen, Mikko Defenseman HIFK JR. FINLAND-JR.
12 11 Lindell, Esa Defenseman Jokerit Jr. FINLAND-JR.
13 14 Osnovin, Vyacheslav Center Chelyabinsk 2 RUSSIA-JR.
14 51 Karlsson, Erik Center Frolunda Jr. SWE-JR.
15 16 Andersson, Calle Defenseman Farjestad jr. SWE-JR.
16 15 Vasiliev, Valeri Defenseman Spartak 2 RUSSIA-JR.
17 24 Tikkinen, Niklas Defenseman Blues Jr. FINLAND-JR.
18 12 Djoos, Christian Defenseman Brynas Jr. SWE-JR.
19 17 Thorell, Erik Center Farjestad SWEDEN
20 18 Gusev, Nikita Left Wing CSKA 2 RUSSIA-JR.
21 41 Krutikov, Evgeni Left Wing Spartak 2 RUSSIA-JR.
22 19 Ikonen, Henri Left Wing Kalpa Jr. FINLAND-JR.
23 34 Wikstrand, Mikael Defenseman Mora SWEDEN-2
24 27 Rotevall, Jeremy Left Wing Timra SWEDEN
25 21 Walker, Nathan Left Wing Vitkovice Jr. CZREP-JR.
26 22 Nemec, Erik Center Vitkovice Jr. CZREP-JR.
27 38 Kulmala, Rasmus Center TPS Jr. FINLAND-JR.
28 31 Tornkvist, Tobias Right Wing Rogle Jr. SWE-JR.
29 53 Rantakari, Otso Defenseman Jokerit Jr. FINLAND-JR.
30 25 Lehtonen, Mikko Defenseman TPS Jr. FINLAND-JR.
31 30 Pettersson, Jesper Defenseman Linkoping Jr. SWE-JR.
32 79 Fernholm, Simon Defenseman Huddinge Jr. SWE-JR.
33 26 Aaltonen, Miro Center Blues FINLAND
34 36 Vermin, Joel Right Wing Bern SWISS
35 35 Bertschy, Christoph Center Bern SWISS
36 116 Rydahl, Gustav Center Frolunda Jr. SWE-JR.
37 37 Kukan, Dean Defenseman Lulea Jr. SWE-JR.
38 29 Kilnar, Ales Left Wing Vitkovice Jr. CZREP-JR.
39 23 Izacky, Jakub Left Wing Trinec Jr. CZREP-JR.
40 39 Koblasa, Petr Right Wing Karlovy Vary Jr. CZREP-JR.
41 42 Nejezchleb, Richard Right Wing Slavia Jr. CZREP-JR.
42 32 Huovinen, Joonas Center Sport Jr. FINLAND-JR.
43 49 Walser, Samuel Center Kloten SWISS
44 52 Lundberg, Emil Right Wing Sodertalje SWEDEN-2
45 40 Simion, Dario Right Wing Lugano SWISS
46 54 Lindbohm, Petteri Defenseman Jokerit Jr. FINLAND-JR.
47 45 Misyul, Oleg Defenseman Yaroslavl 2 RUSSIA-JR.
48 46 Zerressen, Pascal Defenseman Krefeld Jr. GERMANY-JR.
49 44 Auvinen, Henri Defenseman JYP JR. FINLAND-JR.
50 43 Mustonen, Joel Center Skelleftea Jr. SWE-JR
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Re: Countdown to the 2012 Draft

Postby dmiles2186 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:59 am

North American Goalies:

1 1 Subban, Malcolm Goalie Belleville OHL
2 3 Whitney, Brandon Goalie Victoriaville QMJHL
3 5 Paterson, Jake Goalie Saginaw OHL
4 20 Stolarz, Anthony Goalie Corpus Christi NAHL
5 6 Tremblay, Francois Goalie Val d'Or QMJHL
6 4 Gillies, Jon Goalie Indiana USHL
7 8 Makarov, Andrey Goalie Saskatoon WHL
8 10 Bartosak, Patrik Goalie Red Deer WHL
9 11 Palazzese, Frank Goalie Kitchener OHL
10 15 Tomkins, Matt Goalie Sherwood Park AJHL
11 13 Marcoux, Etienne Goalie Blainville-Boisbriand QMJHL
12 7 Altshuller, Daniel Goalie Oshawa OHL
13 12 Driedger, Chris Goalie Calgary WHL
14 23 Machovsky, Matej Goalie Brampton OHL
15 16 Brassard, Francois Goalie Quebec QMJHL
16 19 Houser, Michael Goalie London OHL
17 21 Windsor, Clint Goalie Saginaw OHL
18 2 Murray, Matthew Goalie Sault Ste. Marie OHL
19 14 Skapski, Mackenzie Goalie Kootenay WHL
20 17 Lagace, Maxime Goalie Pei QMJHL
21 9 Olson, Collin Goalie USA U-18 USHL
22 30 Will, Roman Goalie Moncton QMJHL
23 18 Lyon, Alex Goalie Omaha USHL
24 Niederberger, Matthias Goalie Barrie OHL
25 28 Morris, Matthew Goalie Dubuque USHL
26 Phillips, Jamie Goalie Powell River BCHL
27 27 Pavelka, Jaroslav Goalie Windsor OHL
28 Maguire, Sean Goalie Powell River BCHL
29 26 Holowenko, Cole Goalie Prince Albert WHL
30 Lindgren, Charlie Goalie Sioux Falls USHL
31 24 Young, Joseph Goalie Boston Adv. Aaa USMAAAE
32 Nishi, Michael Goalie Ottawa OHL
33 32 Sprigings, Dawson Goalie The Gunnery HIGH-CT
34 22 Williams, Stephon Goalie Sioux Falls USHL
35 34 Trudeau, Philippe Goalie Cape Breton QMJHL

European Goalies:

1 1 Vasilevski, Andrei Goalie Ufa 2 RUSSIA-JR.
2 2 Dansk, Oscar Goalie Brynas Jr. SWE-JR.
3 3 Korpisalo, Joonas Goalie Jokerit Jr. FINLAND-JR.
4 5 Auren, Jean Goalie Sport Jr. FINLAND-JR.
5 4 Langhamer, Marek Goalie Pardubice Jr. CZREP-JR.
6 6 Israelsson, Mathias Goalie Frolunda Jr. SWE-JR.
7 Ullmark, Linus Goalie Modo Jr. SWE-JR.
8 Ustinsky, Igor Goalie Lulea SWEDEN
9 9 Demchenko, Vasili Goalie Chelyabinsk 2 RUSSIA-JR.
10 7 Ullberg, Richard Goalie Saipa FINLAND
11 Treutle, Niklas Goalie Hamburg Freez. GERMANY
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Re: Countdown to the 2012 Draft

Postby STLADOGG » Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:58 am

The Blues have...
Round 1 - 25th Overall Pick
Round 2 - 56th Overall Pick
Round 3 - 67th Overall Pick (from Anaheim)*
Round 3 - 86th Overall Pick
Round 4 - 116th Overall Pick
Round 5 - 146th Overall Pick
Round 6 - 176th Overall Pick
Round 7 - 206th Overall Pick
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Re: Countdown to the 2012 Draft

Postby glen a richter » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:09 am

Does Tim Bozon, probably not, have any relation to Philippe Bozon?

Edit: a little research answers my own question. Tim is Philippe's son.
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Re: Countdown to the 2012 Draft

Postby fargoblues » Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:23 am

glen a richter wrote:Does Tim Bozon, probably not, have any relation to Philippe Bozon?

Edit: a little research answers my own question. Tim is Philippe's son.


Ah, #36. :cup:
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Re: Countdown to the 2012 Draft

Postby kodos » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:48 pm

Hopefully the draft will be a lot less interesting for a while.
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Re: Countdown to the 2012 Draft

Postby WaukeeBlues » Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:56 pm

kodos wrote:Hopefully the draft will be a lot less interesting for a while.


:plusplus:

I can get used to this.
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Re: Countdown to the 2012 Draft

Postby glen a richter » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:55 pm

mynhldraft.com has us getting this guy in the 1st round http://www.mynhldraft.com/2012/NHL-Draf ... t-Laughton and this guy in the 2nd round http://www.mynhldraft.com/2012/NHL-Draf ... val-Nieves but I truly believe the webmaster just pulls this stuff out of his ass when he's making projections.
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Re: Countdown to the 2012 Draft

Postby sparty09 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:30 pm

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=80918

Here's a link to the NHL.com mock drafts.
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Re: Countdown to the 2012 Draft

Postby glen a richter » Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:04 pm

I can understand a defense first team targeting a defenseman, but one with an obvious injury history? What was the story with his shoulder surgery? Major procedure? Minor stuff? Something that could have a long term effect on his physicality? Honestly, I'd prefer they go for the best available point producer. You can draft defense later on and develop them.
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Re: Countdown to the 2012 Draft

Postby ViPeRx007 » Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:31 pm

glen a richter wrote:I can understand a defense first team targeting a defenseman, but one with an obvious injury history? What was the story with his shoulder surgery? Major procedure? Minor stuff? Something that could have a long term effect on his physicality? Honestly, I'd prefer they go for the best available point producer. You can draft defense later on and develop them.


Agreed. Regardless of the team being defense first they still need to score goals. I honestly don't expect Halak/Elliott to perform the way they did again. I think they'll be good, but to think they'll perform that highly every season is kind of crazy. Maybe they've turned a corner in their careers but goalies can be weird; they can be your hero one day and the scapegoat the next.

The Blues have to beef up the scoring side and I really hope they focus on that. Tarasenko will hopefully help in that department, maybe Stewart will get back to his scoring ways (mayyyybe), and the "young" guys are a year older (again), but there's an awful lot of "hoping for the best". I really wish they could pick up one legit and proven scorer. I'm kind of veering away from the draft and just into offseason discussion but whatever, it's the same thing either way:

Draft: Get a scorer
Offseason: Get a scorer and a serviceable Dman
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Re: Countdown to the 2012 Draft

Postby WaukeeBlues » Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:43 pm

ViPeRx007 wrote:
glen a richter wrote:I can understand a defense first team targeting a defenseman, but one with an obvious injury history? What was the story with his shoulder surgery? Major procedure? Minor stuff? Something that could have a long term effect on his physicality? Honestly, I'd prefer they go for the best available point producer. You can draft defense later on and develop them.


Agreed. Regardless of the team being defense first they still need to score goals. I honestly don't expect Halak/Elliott to perform the way they did again. I think they'll be good, but to think they'll perform that highly every season is kind of crazy. Maybe they've turned a corner in their careers but goalies can be weird; they can be your hero one day and the scapegoat the next.

The Blues have to beef up the scoring side and I really hope they focus on that. Tarasenko will hopefully help in that department, maybe Stewart will get back to his scoring ways (mayyyybe), and the "young" guys are a year older (again), but there's an awful lot of "hoping for the best". I really wish they could pick up one legit and proven scorer. I'm kind of veering away from the draft and just into offseason discussion but whatever, it's the same thing either way:

Draft: Get a scorer
Offseason: Get a scorer and a serviceable Dman


We just drafted two of the best offensive producers at our point in the draft last year.

And one of them was acquired for the highest rated Defensive prospect in our system.

For the precise reason it takes D-men more time and we haven't had a top 40 defensive draft pick in three years still with the team; we need to select one. No way should we be drafting another forward in the first round void of Dmen being picked clean. NO WAY.
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Re: Countdown to the 2012 Draft

Postby glen a richter » Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:06 pm

Considering how young our D is and how many d-men are in the system just waiting for a spot to open up (Fairchild, Cole, Cundari, Shields, Hakanpaa and Ponich) I think there's no urgency to draft more defense this year. We need players who can score. The more, the merrier. We're deep at D, everyone knows it. But beyond Tarasenko and Schwartz, how much scoring do we have coming up the pike? McRae will probably make the team as a replacement for Scott Nichol but he won't score bundles of goals, and as great as Rattie was this season, we don't know if that will translate to the NHL in a couple seasons or if he'll go the way of Brett Sonne. Hell, we don't know that Tarasenko will work out either, or Schwartz. We need more offensive guns in the system.
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Re: Countdown to the 2012 Draft

Postby glen a richter » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:44 pm

After careful research... watching a few videos and reading some amateur scouting reports, I like this Pontus Aberg kid, he has a rocket of a shot and he's fast. Could do some damage playing the point on a power play or help set up some nifty odd man rushes. Martin Frk looks like he could be a good pick, except for his apparent lack of consistent motivation. Hitch couldn't get 25 to give two shits so I wonder if he'd be able to get a straight up rookie to work hard on a regular basis.
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Re: Countdown to the 2012 Draft

Postby cprice12 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:00 am

It would be nice if we could lucky with a couple picks.

Recipe for long term success: Draft well when you suck, and then get lucky in the draft a few times when you are good.
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Re: Countdown to the 2012 Draft

Postby WaukeeBlues » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:20 pm

glen a richter wrote:... We need more offensive guns in the system...


:deadhorse:

I'm almost sick of responding to this due to the sheer volume of people who keep saying this.

Why do we NEED another scorer? WHY? Tell me. First: We're not a team built around a prolific scorer. We score by committee and I don't think there's a darn thing wrong with that. A solid half (if not 7-8) of our forwards that we dress night in and night out are capable of, and have been for the most part, scoring 20+ goals a season. That's an incredible stat. Yes, everyone loves the Brett Hull and Pavel Bure types who just bury them at will but they're not exactly a dime a dozen and outside of the top 5 forwards selected in the draft the odds of picking one pretty much plummet.

Second: Didn't we JUST draft a guy who is supposed to be that type with the last name of Taraskeno? And Rattie had a sick year too. Schwartz has already had his NHL debut. I think we got very lucky these last two drafts at getting very talented players at low selections. I'd rather see how they come along for a year or two before going with another forward.

As for defense: Where is this "we're deep and everyone knows it" coming from? Fairchild has played a handful, I think Cole will develop into a reliable if unspectacular D-man and I haven't heard a darn thing about any of those other names getting ready to make a splash any time soon. Petro is the only one we have with any kind of a dominating presence with a close second coming to Polak when he lays down the hammer. Other than that, we rely on spectacularly average defensemen.

Hopefully our prospects system churns out some more D-men in a few years but, for the reasons I said above (plethora of young forwards, haven't drafted a top 40 D-man in three years still with the team), we need to pass on taking a forward in the first round this year.

If there was a solid D-man available by our pick in the 1st round with a huge upside, I don't think twice: I draft D.
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Re: Countdown to the 2012 Draft

Postby dmiles2186 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:56 pm

Would someone tell Pierre McGuire to shut up and stop tipping picks? The guy protects information he gets between the benches because...who the crap knows why?...but he takes absolute pleasure in constantly giving away draft picks.
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Re: Countdown to the 2012 Draft

Postby dmiles2186 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:20 pm

Blues go D-man, Jordan Schmaltz at 25. TSN has him ranked 38 overall. Anyone know about him?
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Re: Countdown to the 2012 Draft

Postby kodos » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:24 pm

Love the name.

Not so sure about jumping on him that far ahead, but who knows.

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Re: Countdown to the 2012 Draft

Postby sparty09 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:33 pm

I don't know anything about him, but if they're going to reach this much, they must see something they like. Given Armstrong's track-record, it's worth giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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