GDT #16: 2/20/13 > Blues @ Avalanche > 9:00 PM > NBCSN/KMOX

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Re: GDT #16: 2/20/13 > Blues @ Avalanche > 9:00 PM > NBCSN/K

Postby cprice12 » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:16 pm

STLADOGG wrote:
abc789987 wrote:I doubt there is any suspension at all.

No suspension needed. It was an accident.


It not being on purpose has nothing to do with it.
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Re: GDT #16: 2/20/13 > Blues @ Avalanche > 9:00 PM > NBCSN/K

Postby drwoland » Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:23 pm

Not even a mention on NHL.com of the hit. Of course, it wasn't Hossa, who cares.
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Re: GDT #16: 2/20/13 > Blues @ Avalanche > 9:00 PM > NBCSN/K

Postby Oaklandblue » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:41 am

Legit hit or not, our boys should have dropped gloves and made a statement. We might have actually won if we did.
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Re: GDT #16: 2/20/13 > Blues @ Avalanche > 9:00 PM > NBCSN/K

Postby cprice12 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:53 am

Oaklandblue wrote:Legit hit or not, our boys should have dropped gloves and made a statement. We might have actually won if we did.


It would have been nice to do that, but on the other hand, you get the instigator penalty and maybe give up a PP goal in the 3rd period of a scoreless game.
I think this is one of those things that you file away for the next time we play them and take care of it early in the game.
That probably won't happen though.
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Re: GDT #16: 2/20/13 > Blues @ Avalanche > 9:00 PM > NBCSN/K

Postby Shanahan19 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:25 pm

Oaklandblue wrote:Legit hit or not, our boys should have dropped gloves and made a statement. We might have actually won if we did.


These days we whine to the NHL offices. Weak, loser generation of hockey these days. Even junkyard dogs have the self respect to fight back. Now we complain on Facebook.

Who gives a damn what the League does or doesn't do. You're the guys on the ice. Make your own justice.
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Re: GDT #16: 2/20/13 > Blues @ Avalanche > 9:00 PM > NBCSN/K

Postby sseagle » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:18 pm

Shanahan19 wrote:
Oaklandblue wrote:Legit hit or not, our boys should have dropped gloves and made a statement. We might have actually won if we did.


These days we whine to the NHL offices. Weak, loser generation of hockey these days. Even junkyard dogs have the self respect to fight back. Now we complain on Facebook.

Who gives a damn what the League does or doesn't do. You're the guys on the ice. Make your own justice.


Well, I haven't been on the ice (as a player) in years, so I'd invite you to come stop me from bitching :)
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Re: GDT #16: 2/20/13 > Blues @ Avalanche > 9:00 PM > NBCSN/K

Postby Oaklandblue » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:50 pm

sseagle wrote:
Shanahan19 wrote:
Oaklandblue wrote:Legit hit or not, our boys should have dropped gloves and made a statement. We might have actually won if we did.


These days we whine to the NHL offices. Weak, loser generation of hockey these days. Even junkyard dogs have the self respect to fight back. Now we complain on Facebook.

Who gives a damn what the League does or doesn't do. You're the guys on the ice. Make your own justice.


Well, I haven't been on the ice (as a player) in years, so I'd invite you to come stop me from bitching :)


If it was me, I'd have dropped gloves and hit someone. It's not about winning or losing the fight, it's standing up for your guy and about Team Pride.

It's becoming more and more obvious that this time has none. Zero. Zip.

I'd have fought and maybe would have gotten myself wiped across the ice, suspended or whatever, but that's all temporary. The stigma your team carries when you do NOT respond is to go ahead, hit one of us again. We won't do anything. We're weak. That stigma follows you and has followed this team for a very long time.

Hitch needs to open the Polak Door, send Reaves out or give Stew the green light because this would NOT have happened on the 98-99 Dallas Stars team without at least one person going to the ring. And maybe that's a part of why they got a ring.

Shanahan19 is absolutely correct. Sometimes you make your own law; you might lose today and get a few suspensions but the team starts to act MUCH different after, they start showing pride and they start actually playing with it, too.

And that seems to be a big part of our problem. Lack of pride.
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Re: GDT #16: 2/20/13 > Blues @ Avalanche > 9:00 PM > NBCSN/K

Postby theohall » Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:08 pm

As good as Stewart played vs San Jose, why in the (FRANK) does he stop skating headed back to his own zone with less than 20 seconds to go in OT? You can see him gliding back into his own zone as Jones circles back and shoots the OT winner. If Stewart had pulled his head out of his ass and actually skated back on defense, maybe this game could have gone to a shootout. But no, that jackass refuses to skate back hard - with less than 20 seconds left in OT - and the Avs score from his defensive AOR. He quit skating from inside the Blues offensive zone and glided from the Avs blueline all the way into the Blues zone. Yes, he glided through the entire neutral zone. It's not like there was another shift in the game or a game to played the next day. No excuse for that crappy an effort that late in a tie game.
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Re: GDT #16: 2/20/13 > Blues @ Avalanche > 9:00 PM > NBCSN/K

Postby Shanahan19 » Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:02 am

Oaklandblue wrote:
sseagle wrote:
Shanahan19 wrote:
Oaklandblue wrote:Legit hit or not, our boys should have dropped gloves and made a statement. We might have actually won if we did.


These days we whine to the NHL offices. Weak, loser generation of hockey these days. Even junkyard dogs have the self respect to fight back. Now we complain on Facebook.

Who gives a damn what the League does or doesn't do. You're the guys on the ice. Make your own justice.


Well, I haven't been on the ice (as a player) in years, so I'd invite you to come stop me from bitching :)


If it was me, I'd have dropped gloves and hit someone. It's not about winning or losing the fight, it's standing up for your guy and about Team Pride.

It's becoming more and more obvious that this time has none. Zero. Zip.

I'd have fought and maybe would have gotten myself wiped across the ice, suspended or whatever, but that's all temporary. The stigma your team carries when you do NOT respond is to go ahead, hit one of us again. We won't do anything. We're weak. That stigma follows you and has followed this team for a very long time.

Hitch needs to open the Polak Door, send Reaves out or give Stew the green light because this would NOT have happened on the 98-99 Dallas Stars team without at least one person going to the ring. And maybe that's a part of why they got a ring.

Shanahan19 is absolutely correct. Sometimes you make your own law; you might lose today and get a few suspensions but the team starts to act MUCH different after, they start showing pride and they start actually playing with it, too.

And that seems to be a big part of our problem. Lack of pride.


Right there.

Fighting back may lose that single game but the team identity, character, pride that is forged in trial, shared suffering, standing together and not shrinking down to others will lead to far more wins in the long run.

The Blues used to be a team that would smash anyone that did something like this.

We want to win on talent alone with as little pain as possible. Won't get past the second round with that attitude.
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