GDT: Free Agent Frenzy-7-5-13

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Re: GDT: Free Agent Frenzy-7-5-13

Postby WaukeeBlues » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:35 am

Burmistrov bounces for the KHL...

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Re: GDT: Free Agent Frenzy-7-5-13

Postby glen a richter » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:15 am

Oaklandblue wrote:
flyingnote38 wrote:Vanek makes $7.142 M (1 year left before UFA) and Stafford $4 M(2 years left before UFA). Oshie $4.175 for 4 more years.

to be able to sign Petro and Stewart we will need to shed payroll; adding $7 M in payroll would leave us maxed out.

so unless Buffalo is going to retain cap hit/salary responsibilty, we'd have to do a massive overhaul to make the numbers work.


PAH. Simple:

To Buffalo: Perron (3.812), Oshie (4.175), Halak (3.750) =11.737m
To STL: Vanek (7.142), Stafford (4.0)=11.142

Viola! MAJOR upgrade which would make Pie think twice about not signing with the Note. One trade like this, not counting anything else, and we're saying we're out to win. Best part is, if we had to give up someone else, all that would do is give us more money to play with. Can't beat this.

The big question is this: We have 9.16m cap room left. That would be enough as it stands to sign Stewart (3m) and Pie (6m), if we could pull that off. If Pie asks for 7+, do we 'trade down' Stewart to another team for the cap space to do it? What would you do?


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Re: GDT: Free Agent Frenzy-7-5-13

Postby WaukeeBlues » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:57 am

glen a richter wrote:
Oaklandblue wrote:
flyingnote38 wrote:Vanek makes $7.142 M (1 year left before UFA) and Stafford $4 M(2 years left before UFA). Oshie $4.175 for 4 more years.

to be able to sign Petro and Stewart we will need to shed payroll; adding $7 M in payroll would leave us maxed out.

so unless Buffalo is going to retain cap hit/salary responsibilty, we'd have to do a massive overhaul to make the numbers work.


PAH. Simple:

To Buffalo: Perron (3.812), Oshie (4.175), Halak (3.750) =11.737m
To STL: Vanek (7.142), Stafford (4.0)=11.142

Viola! MAJOR upgrade which would make Pie think twice about not signing with the Note. One trade like this, not counting anything else, and we're saying we're out to win. Best part is, if we had to give up someone else, all that would do is give us more money to play with. Can't beat this.

The big question is this: We have 9.16m cap room left. That would be enough as it stands to sign Stewart (3m) and Pie (6m), if we could pull that off. If Pie asks for 7+, do we 'trade down' Stewart to another team for the cap space to do it? What would you do?


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Sometimes I think a viola would be a major upgrade over Stewart when he's in a funk.


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Re: GDT: Free Agent Frenzy-7-5-13

Postby joosforjihad » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:57 pm

http://deadspin.com/5934256/hockeyy-ins ... ar+old-kid

You probably shouldn't believe anything from that twitter account.
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Re: GDT: Free Agent Frenzy-7-5-13

Postby KrustyKevo » Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:45 pm

joosforjihad wrote:http://deadspin.com/5934256/hockeyy-insiderr-everyones-favorite-twitter-rumormonger-is-probably-a-17+year+old-kid

You probably shouldn't believe anything from that twitter account.


Yeah like I said at the beginning, I'm not sure on how reputable he is. I just found it interesting.
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Re: GDT: Free Agent Frenzy-7-5-13

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Re: GDT: Free Agent Frenzy-7-5-13

Postby flyingnote38 » Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:38 am

strangely, the same experts that rate the Blues' free agent activity as a D+ for missing out at Lecavalier and Fippula
then turn around and rate those two among the worst contracts of this offseason
so we did bad by not spending stupid money?
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Re: GDT: Free Agent Frenzy-7-5-13

Postby TheoSqua » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:11 am

Just goes to show that sometimes not winning in free agency is winning at winning. ...or something like that.
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Re: GDT: Free Agent Frenzy-7-5-13

Postby WaukeeBlues » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:42 am

flyingnote38 wrote:strangely, the same experts that rate the Blues' free agent activity as a D+ for missing out at Lecavalier and Fippula
then turn around and rate those two among the worst contracts of this offseason
so we did bad by not spending stupid money?


Okay so even if the signings were "busts" so to speak... they're short term deals.

Oh no, we'll deal Roy at the deadline or just let him go and free up cap space. Devastating. Such a moronic signing. :roll:
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Re: GDT: Free Agent Frenzy-7-5-13

Postby dmiles2186 » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:09 am

Smart and prudent does not match FLASHY! and BIG NAME!

Look at baseball, when then Angels signed Pujols, Hamilton, Wilson, et. al. they were universally praised and pundits predicted World Series trips, etc. No one talked about how this would help he Cardinals. Fast forward two years, the Cards have made a return trip to the NLCS and are one of the best teams in baseball. Now the narrative is how the Pujols signing HELPED the Cardinals.

So right now, these low risk deals aren't interesting and the Blues striking out on bigger names make them seem like 'losers' (as the media always has to declare) right now. But whether these guys gel or play over their contract, or whether you trade Roy at the deadline for other pieces, they can work to their advantage.

It's our hyper-kneejerk reaction society that forces people to always side with the big names over the smart, uninteresting deals.
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Re: GDT: Free Agent Frenzy-7-5-13

Postby sseagle » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:45 am

dmiles2186 wrote:Smart and prudent does not match FLASHY! and BIG NAME!

Look at baseball, when then Angels signed Pujols, Hamilton, Wilson, et. al. they were universally praised and pundits predicted World Series trips, etc. No one talked about how this would help he Cardinals. Fast forward two years, the Cards have made a return trip to the NLCS and are one of the best teams in baseball. Now the narrative is how the Pujols signing HELPED the Cardinals.

So right now, these low risk deals aren't interesting and the Blues striking out on bigger names make them seem like 'losers' (as the media always has to declare) right now. But whether these guys gel or play over their contract, or whether you trade Roy at the deadline for other pieces, they can work to their advantage.

It's our hyper-kneejerk reaction society that forces people to always side with the big names over the smart, uninteresting deals.

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Re: GDT: Free Agent Frenzy-7-5-13

Postby WaukeeBlues » Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:30 pm

Our buddy D'Agostini signs a 1 year deal to the 'Guins for $550k

Absolute STEAL. He could've and should've commanded more coin than that. Watch, Bylsma is going to use him correctly and he's going to pot 20+ goals again.
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Re: GDT: Free Agent Frenzy-7-5-13

Postby glen a richter » Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:48 pm

Shit for that coin Army should have brought him back into the fold.
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Re: GDT: Free Agent Frenzy-7-5-13

Postby glen a richter » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:13 pm

Enjoy Edmonton, Perron. Nice knowing ya.

Edit: Gotta say not overly impressed with Paajarvi's career stats thus far. What can he contribute to this team other than clearing some cap space?
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Re: GDT: Free Agent Frenzy-7-5-13

Postby sseagle » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:14 pm

glen a richter wrote:Enjoy Edmonton, Perron. Nice knowing ya.

Perron to EDM for Paajarvi and a 2nd round pick
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Re: GDT: Free Agent Frenzy-7-5-13

Postby gaijin » Thu Jul 11, 2013 8:39 am

glen a richter wrote:Shit for that coin Army should have brought him back into the fold.


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Re: GDT: Free Agent Frenzy-7-5-13

Postby WaukeeBlues » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:08 pm

glen a richter wrote:Shit for that coin Army should have brought him back into the fold.


Nah. D'Agostini was clearly not the same player as he was pre-Hitchcock. Which disappointed me. But every time I saw D'Agostini play post-20 goal season he almost looked "lost" I think is the best word for it. Bylsma gives him a bit more free-reign... could be a huge return. He's easily the most talented player in the league making $550k. I don't even think that's a question.
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Re: GDT: Free Agent Frenzy-7-5-13

Postby WaukeeBlues » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:46 pm

In other news, Ilya Kovalchuk retired today...

WAIT WHAT? :shock: :shock:

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TSN wrote:The New Jersey Devils announced on Twitter on Thursday that forward Ilya Kovalchuk has announced his retirement.

"After many conversations with Ilya over the past year on his desire to retire from the National Hockey League, Ilya's decision became official today," said general manager Lou Lamoriello in a statement.

"On behalf of the entire organization, I wish Ilya and his family all the best in their future endeavors."

Kovalchuk played 11 seasons in the NHL, including the last four with New Jersey. He retires with career NHL totals of 417 goals and 399 assists for 816 points with 516 penalty minutes in 816 games.

He added 11 goals and 16 assists in 32 career playoff games. Kovalchuk scored 89 goals and 112 assists for 201 points in 222 games, while adding eight goals and 11 assists in 23 playoff games with the Devils. He was traded to New Jersey by Atlanta on February 4, 2010. He was Atlanta's first choice, and the first overall selection in the 2001 NHL Entry Draft.

He represented Russia at three Olympic Winter Games, nine World Championships, one World Junior Championship and the 2004 World Cup.
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Re: GDT: Free Agent Frenzy-7-5-13

Postby ecbm » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:18 pm

glen a richter wrote:Enjoy Edmonton, Perron. Nice knowing ya.

Edit: Gotta say not overly impressed with Paajarvi's career stats thus far. What can he contribute to this team other than clearing some cap space?


Right now, nothing. Possibly somehing in a few seasons. Tired of hearing that? Yeah, so am I.
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Re: GDT: Free Agent Frenzy-7-5-13

Postby ComradeT » Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:06 pm

WaukeeBlues wrote:In other news, Ilya Kovalchuk retired today...

WAIT WHAT? :shock: :shock:

Clicky!

TSN wrote:The New Jersey Devils announced on Twitter on Thursday that forward Ilya Kovalchuk has announced his retirement.

"After many conversations with Ilya over the past year on his desire to retire from the National Hockey League, Ilya's decision became official today," said general manager Lou Lamoriello in a statement.

"On behalf of the entire organization, I wish Ilya and his family all the best in their future endeavors."

Kovalchuk played 11 seasons in the NHL, including the last four with New Jersey. He retires with career NHL totals of 417 goals and 399 assists for 816 points with 516 penalty minutes in 816 games.

He added 11 goals and 16 assists in 32 career playoff games. Kovalchuk scored 89 goals and 112 assists for 201 points in 222 games, while adding eight goals and 11 assists in 23 playoff games with the Devils. He was traded to New Jersey by Atlanta on February 4, 2010. He was Atlanta's first choice, and the first overall selection in the 2001 NHL Entry Draft.

He represented Russia at three Olympic Winter Games, nine World Championships, one World Junior Championship and the 2004 World Cup.


Well, this TOTALLY explains the D'Agostini signing!
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