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STL JA wrote:The PS3 had a rough first year, but things are really starting to look much better. The sales have been good for awhile now, actually. And PS3 owners are seeing some great games finally...
The sales have been good? Compared to what?

The only console with good sales is the Wii.

wii = Amazing sales
360 = OK sales
PS3 = Unbelievably terrible sales
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kodos wrote:
STL JA wrote:The PS3 had a rough first year, but things are really starting to look much better. The sales have been good for awhile now, actually. And PS3 owners are seeing some great games finally...
The sales have been good? Compared to what?

The only console with good sales is the Wii.

wii = Amazing sales
360 = OK sales
PS3 = Unbelievably terrible sales
Not from the many articles I have been reading... The PS3 is selling quite well.

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U.S. Sales since Wii and PS3 launch...

Total
Wii = 5,000,000
360 = 7,100,000
PS3 = 1,900,000

October 2007
Wii = 519,000
360 = 366,000
PS3 = 121,000

September 2007
Wii = 501,000
360 = 527,000
PS3 = 119,000

August 2007
Wii = 403,000
360 = 276,000
PS3 = 130,000

July 2007
Wii = 425,000
360 = 170,000
PS3 = 159,000

June 2007
Wii = 381,000
360 = 198,000
PS3 = 98,000

May 2007
Wii = 338,000
360 = 155,000
PS3 = 81,000

April 2007
Wii = 360,000
360 = 174,000
PS3 = 82,000

March 2007
Wii = 259,000
360 = 199,000
PS3 = 130,000

February 2007
Wii = 335,000
360 = 228,000
PS3 = 127,000

January 2007
Wii = 436,000
360 = 294,000
PS3 = 244,000

December 2006
Wii = 604,000
360 = 1,100,000
Ps3 = 490,000

November 2006
Wii = 476,000
360 = 511,000
PS3 = 197,000
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Dave, go for a PS3.. it has plenty of games out.. and great exclusives coming, and great ones that are out now... Rachet and Clank: Tools of Destruction, Warhawk, Uncharted Drakes Fortune (easily the best looking and one of the best playing games out there right now). MGS4, UT3, FF13, FFv13, Killzone 2, mostly coming out early next year. Not to mention the hardware is a lot better.. you won't have to worry about a 360 breaking on you.. and yes.. they sent me a new one not to long ago.. and it's messed up a month after having it.. had to go through it again... when they sent me a new 360 for the 2nd time.. the sync button don't work.. so I have to use wired controllers.. who wants to have to put batteries into a controller.. not to mention the 360 controller feels like I'm a holding a brick. While I think XBL is great.. it should be free.. Microsoft likes to dick around with all these accessories you have to buy.. With all these things games are doing nowadays.. DVD just won't last.. just isn't enough space.... Bluray outselling HDDVD 2:1... GTA 4, and UT3 are being dragged down by the 360.. As for the Wii.. novelty item.. has no games. Unfortunately there is still a lot of media hate for the ps3.. but people are starting to realize what the PS3 is really caapable of.

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kodos wrote:Sony is still up shit creek.

Last quarter EA sold $218 million dollars worth of software on the 360 and $17 million on the PS3.

The 360 is outselling the PS3 about 3 to 1 in hardware sales.

Almost every multi-console game is superior on the 360.

If the PS3 has so much potential, why have we yet to see it? The system came out a year later and cost 50% more. Why did the games look worse?

The PS3 and the 360 are both very capable systems... the problem with the PS3 is that developers have to spend more time and money to get games to perform as well on their system as they do on the easy-to-program 360. And then when they do spend more time and money on the PS3 versions, they end up selling about 20% as much as the do on the 360.

How long do you think developers are going to continue to put up with that?

The PS1 and PS2 were popular because they had so much support from 3rd party developers. What incentive do developers have to put a lot of support into the PS3, when they can make so much more money on the Wii and 360?

Unless Sony does something totally drastic and insane... and soon... the Ps3 is destined to be this generations gamecube.

The PS3 has some great looking exclusive titles, but I don't know if it's going to be enough.

Rachet and Clank, which is arguably Sony's biggest game this fall, sold 74,000 copies in October, making it the #10 game for the month. That is a really bad sign.
EA is a joke when making PS3 games.. everyone should know this by now.. I hate the fact they are ones working on the Orange Box. Heavenly Sword, Rachet and Clank, Uncharted Drakes Fortune are all fantastic games, with plenty of great games coming.

to be fair for Rachet and Clank.. it didn't even go on sale in Europe, Austrailia until the 2nd week of Nov.
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They announced in May that Final Fantasy was coming to 360 for the holidays....

http://www.square-enix.com/na/company/p ... /05162005/

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kodos wrote:U.S. Sales since Wii and PS3 launch...

Total
Wii = 5,000,000
360 = 7,100,000
PS3 = 1,900,000

October 2007
Wii = 519,000
360 = 366,000
PS3 = 121,000

September 2007
Wii = 501,000
360 = 527,000
PS3 = 119,000

August 2007
Wii = 403,000
360 = 276,000
PS3 = 130,000

July 2007
Wii = 425,000
360 = 170,000
PS3 = 159,000

June 2007
Wii = 381,000
360 = 198,000
PS3 = 98,000

May 2007
Wii = 338,000
360 = 155,000
PS3 = 81,000

April 2007
Wii = 360,000
360 = 174,000
PS3 = 82,000

March 2007
Wii = 259,000
360 = 199,000
PS3 = 130,000

February 2007
Wii = 335,000
360 = 228,000
PS3 = 127,000

January 2007
Wii = 436,000
360 = 294,000
PS3 = 244,000

December 2006
Wii = 604,000
360 = 1,100,000
Ps3 = 490,000

November 2006
Wii = 476,000
360 = 511,000
PS3 = 197,000
PS3 price finally drops and I think you'll see those numbers even out a lot more. I do think Wii is a very underrated system, particularly by those on this board.
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If they released Rock Band on the Wii... I'd probably just get the Wii...
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Prngr44 wrote:They announced in May that Final Fantasy was coming to 360 for the holidays....

http://www.square-enix.com/na/company/p ... /05162005/
this article was back from 05... game cameout last winter for the 360.. I don't get it?
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That's final Fantasy 11 which isn't a real FF game and is pretty sucky.
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Oz167 wrote:
kodos wrote:Sony is still up shit creek.

Last quarter EA sold $218 million dollars worth of software on the 360 and $17 million on the PS3.

The 360 is outselling the PS3 about 3 to 1 in hardware sales.

Almost every multi-console game is superior on the 360.

If the PS3 has so much potential, why have we yet to see it? The system came out a year later and cost 50% more. Why did the games look worse?

The PS3 and the 360 are both very capable systems... the problem with the PS3 is that developers have to spend more time and money to get games to perform as well on their system as they do on the easy-to-program 360. And then when they do spend more time and money on the PS3 versions, they end up selling about 20% as much as the do on the 360.

How long do you think developers are going to continue to put up with that?

The PS1 and PS2 were popular because they had so much support from 3rd party developers. What incentive do developers have to put a lot of support into the PS3, when they can make so much more money on the Wii and 360?

Unless Sony does something totally drastic and insane... and soon... the Ps3 is destined to be this generations gamecube.

The PS3 has some great looking exclusive titles, but I don't know if it's going to be enough.

Rachet and Clank, which is arguably Sony's biggest game this fall, sold 74,000 copies in October, making it the #10 game for the month. That is a really bad sign.
EA is a joke when making PS3 games.. everyone should know this by now.. I hate the fact they are ones working on the Orange Box. Heavenly Sword, Rachet and Clank, Uncharted Drakes Fortune are all fantastic games, with plenty of great games coming.

to be fair for Rachet and Clank.. it didn't even go on sale in Europe, Austrailia until the 2nd week of Nov.
Supposedly they totally botched Orange Box... Pisses me off.

Uncharted is such a great game. Gotta love Naughty Dog. :D

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kodos wrote:That's final Fantasy 11 which isn't a real FF game and is pretty sucky.
I've never played it so I have no clue. I just saw FF on 360 and figured that was it since someone said it'd never go to 360.

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Aaron, are you still rocking Gears of War? We had some good times on that game. :lol:

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kodos wrote:A bunch of cash from Sony.
Bingo.
Well I would still think that making the FF/MGS franchises multiplatform would benefit them more in the long run. They may get a bunch of money up front from Sony, but over a period of time with the 360 I bet they could make up the difference at the very least, possibly even more.
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Haven't played Gears in a while. But I was playing that online for a long time.

Just got done with Super Mario Galaxy, which was fantastic.

Played a little Halo 3 online, but I don't think I'm going to stick with it.

Now I'm waiting on Xmas to get Call of Duty 4 and/or Orange Box. I need to leave some stuff for people to buy me or I end up with crap.
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kodos wrote:Now I'm waiting on Xmas to get Call of Duty 4 and/or Orange Box. I need to leave some stuff for people to buy me or I end up with crap.
COD4 was $12 off at Target on Black Friday... decided to pounce on it and I haven't yet been disappointed.
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kodos wrote:Haven't played Gears in a while. But I was playing that online for a long time.

Just got done with Super Mario Galaxy, which was fantastic.

Played a little Halo 3 online, but I don't think I'm going to stick with it.

Now I'm waiting on Xmas to get Call of Duty 4 and/or Orange Box. I need to leave some stuff for people to buy me or I end up with crap.
COD 4 is brilliant. I've been playing it a lot on the PS3...

The single player is short, but oh so sweet. Multi-player is where it's at.

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STL JA wrote:
kodos wrote:Haven't played Gears in a while. But I was playing that online for a long time.

Just got done with Super Mario Galaxy, which was fantastic.

Played a little Halo 3 online, but I don't think I'm going to stick with it.

Now I'm waiting on Xmas to get Call of Duty 4 and/or Orange Box. I need to leave some stuff for people to buy me or I end up with crap.
COD 4 is brilliant. I've been playing it a lot on the PS3...

The single player is short, but oh so sweet. Multi-player is where it's at.
I cant fracking wait!!!

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Krigloch the Furious wrote:
STL JA wrote:
kodos wrote:Haven't played Gears in a while. But I was playing that online for a long time.

Just got done with Super Mario Galaxy, which was fantastic.

Played a little Halo 3 online, but I don't think I'm going to stick with it.

Now I'm waiting on Xmas to get Call of Duty 4 and/or Orange Box. I need to leave some stuff for people to buy me or I end up with crap.
COD 4 is brilliant. I've been playing it a lot on the PS3...

The single player is short, but oh so sweet. Multi-player is where it's at.
I cant fracking wait!!!
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kodos wrote:U.S. Sales since Wii and PS3 launch...

Total
Wii = 5,000,000
360 = 7,100,000
PS3 = 1,900,000

October 2007
Wii = 519,000
360 = 366,000
PS3 = 121,000

September 2007
Wii = 501,000
360 = 527,000
PS3 = 119,000

August 2007
Wii = 403,000
360 = 276,000
PS3 = 130,000

July 2007
Wii = 425,000
360 = 170,000
PS3 = 159,000

June 2007
Wii = 381,000
360 = 198,000
PS3 = 98,000

May 2007
Wii = 338,000
360 = 155,000
PS3 = 81,000

April 2007
Wii = 360,000
360 = 174,000
PS3 = 82,000

March 2007
Wii = 259,000
360 = 199,000
PS3 = 130,000

February 2007
Wii = 335,000
360 = 228,000
PS3 = 127,000

January 2007
Wii = 436,000
360 = 294,000
PS3 = 244,000

December 2006
Wii = 604,000
360 = 1,100,000
Ps3 = 490,000

November 2006
Wii = 476,000
360 = 511,000
PS3 = 197,000
I'm sure more Kia Optimas are sold than Mercedes C-class too.
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